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Old January 13th, 2006 (5:21 PM). Edited January 13th, 2006 by Super Blaziken.
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Heracross (M) @ Focus Band
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 220 HP / 79 Atk / 167 Spd / 44 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Brick Break
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Reversal

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 120 HP / 8 Atk / 55 Def / 83 Spd / 144 SAtk / 100 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Ice Beam
- Mirror Coat
- Roar
- Surf

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 114 HP / 70 Atk / 12 Def / 252 Spd / 34 SAtk / 28 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Spore
- Thunderpunch

Snorlax (M) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 251 HP / 12 Atk / 124 Def / 123 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Dragonite (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 163 HP / 108 Def / 20 Spd / 128 SAtk / 91 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 251 HP / 79 Atk / 72 Def / 28 SAtk / 80 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Substitute
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Old January 13th, 2006 (6:45 PM).
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Heracross (M) @ Salac Berrt
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Swords Dance / Rock Slide
- Reversal

All Ednreversalers need Salac and Endure. If you're bored try Substitute over endure as well.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 12 Spd / 32 SAtk / 12 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- [/b]Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar / Ice Beam
- Surf

Remember these EVs.

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Mach Punch / Sludge Bomb / Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Spore
- Mach Punch / Sludge Bomb / Hidden Power [Ghost]

You should look up some standard EV spreads. Breloom has no business using Special Attacks btw.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: [b]204 HP / 140 Def / 164 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball /Earthquake

........You used a nature that reduced your attack........that's not good. Leftovers > Chesto Berry

Dragonite (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 163 HP / 108 Def / 20 Spd / 128 SAtk / 91 SDef
[b]Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

Ask someone else for EVs

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 240 HP / 90 Atk / 176 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Rock Slide
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Substitute / Taunt

Dragon Claw is NOT a physical move. Taunt is the better option in the last slot IMO.

You need a physical tank, what with CBers raping your team. All pokemon need a non-Neutral nature, as it will benefit from it. And having a Reversaling Heracross on the same team as Tyranitar just marks you as a nub. Put Skarmory or Forretress over Tyranitar and something over breloom.
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Old January 13th, 2006 (7:03 PM).
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Where is your heracross counter?

None-existant, that's where.
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Old January 13th, 2006 (7:08 PM).
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WEll, he obviously doesn't know that Hera and Cham own more than half the OU metagame
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Old January 15th, 2006 (7:35 AM).
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i only put tyranitar in there because when people are beating me with zangoose with flail,reversal or herracros with reversal with 1 hp i just kill them with tyranitar's trait.Sand Stream
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Old January 15th, 2006 (8:57 AM).
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Reversalers suck because of T-tar.

I use 252 Speed / 128 Sp.atk / 128 Atk, on Subpunching Boltbeaming Dragonite. it seems too work, last time I used it.
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Old January 15th, 2006 (9:01 AM).
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i only put tyranitar in there because when people are beating me with zangoose with flail,reversal or herracros with reversal with 1 hp i just kill them with tyranitar's trait.Sand Stream
You also kill your own Hera that way.

Subpunch Boltbeam Dragonite needs 200 Sp. Attack EVs, 240 Speed (stat), 320-330 Attack (stat) and the rest in HP. Mild Nature
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Old January 15th, 2006 (10:52 AM).
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i only put tyranitar in there because when people are beating me with zangoose with flail,reversal or herracros with reversal with 1 hp i just kill them with tyranitar's trait.Sand Stream
That's why we have physical tanks/walls and phazers.
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Old January 15th, 2006 (11:04 AM).
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That's why we have physical tanks/walls and phazers.
Like Skarmory, and Weezing for example. Which do both.

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Old January 15th, 2006 (11:35 AM).
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Like Skarmory, and Weezing for example. Which do both.

Umby do you have MSN?
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Old January 15th, 2006 (1:00 PM).
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Heracross (M) @ Focus Band
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 220 HP / 79 Atk / 167 Spd / 44 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Brick Break
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Reversal

CB over Focus Band, Focus Punch or Sleep Talk over Reversal. Get rid of the HP and put it into attack.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 120 HP / 8 Atk / 55 Def / 83 Spd / 144 SAtk / 100 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Ice Beam
- Mirror Coat
- Roar
- Surf

Go with Synchronize's evs, except use 28 speed (imo). Calm Mind over Mirror Coat, Rest over Roar.

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 114 HP / 70 Atk / 12 Def / 252 Spd / 34 SAtk / 28 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Spore
- Thunderpunch

Spore/Focus Punch/HP Ghost/Substitute or Leech Seed.

Snorlax (M) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 251 HP / 12 Atk / 124 Def / 123 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Use the nature that ups spdef and lowers spatk.


Dragonite (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 28 HP / 104 Atk / 176 Spd / 200 SAtk
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt


Tyranitar (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 52 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Def / 56 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Fire Blast
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Paradise: Fire, Flying, Ghost, Dark, rock
Paradise: and toxic and sandstorm
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm...........
Houndoom Star: a weezing sludge bomb
Houndoom Star: ?
Paradise: no.
Paradise: Use Willowisp if you have it
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm sludge bomb didn't work
Houndoom Star: thunderbolt will work?
Paradise: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Paradise: yes.
Paraidse: yes, i told you to use electric moves
Houndoom Star: it didn't
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Old January 15th, 2006 (4:48 PM).
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That Tyranitar needs Adamant. HP Bug/Flying will do better over Fire Blast IMO. Give that tar 240 HP, as it doesnt need that much attack.
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What you said =) I don't know much about CBTar, but I don't think boah or ddtar would help as much.
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Paradise: Fire, Flying, Ghost, Dark, rock
Paradise: and toxic and sandstorm
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm...........
Houndoom Star: a weezing sludge bomb
Houndoom Star: ?
Paradise: no.
Paradise: Use Willowisp if you have it
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm sludge bomb didn't work
Houndoom Star: thunderbolt will work?
Paradise: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Paradise: yes.
Paraidse: yes, i told you to use electric moves
Houndoom Star: it didn't
Houndoom Star: Psyduck you
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Yes reversalers do suck because i 6-0'd like 320934u2o4i23ou people with them!!!!
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Old January 15th, 2006 (7:52 PM).
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And then they send out Tyranitar and your reversalers die without it making a move. Actually I've noticed that its losing popularity now, you could get away with it for the majority of the time. But obviously it will fail if you put one on the same team as Tyranitar.
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Houndoom Star: What moves to use against Shedinja?
Paradise: Fire, Flying, Ghost, Dark, rock
Paradise: and toxic and sandstorm
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm...........
Houndoom Star: a weezing sludge bomb
Houndoom Star: ?
Paradise: no.
Paradise: Use Willowisp if you have it
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm sludge bomb didn't work
Houndoom Star: thunderbolt will work?
Paradise: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Paradise: yes.
Paraidse: yes, i told you to use electric moves
Houndoom Star: it didn't
Houndoom Star: Psyduck you
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Old January 16th, 2006 (7:43 AM).
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Exactly, but its not 'worthless' if they have a tyranitar. You can still get in some hits without subbing down to 1 hp, and when sandstream wears you down, you can just go out with one last reversal.
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What you said =) I don't know much about CBTar, but I don't think boah or ddtar would help as much.
No, Boah is dead. everyone makes fun of it. It's a stupid counter too.

Reversalers will always kill at least one thing. Unless they lead with T-tar, or switch to it before you send out your Reversaler.
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Boah's...dead? It's amazing what can happen in 9 weeks in absence of netbattle.
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Houndoom Star: What moves to use against Shedinja?
Paradise: Fire, Flying, Ghost, Dark, rock
Paradise: and toxic and sandstorm
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm...........
Houndoom Star: a weezing sludge bomb
Houndoom Star: ?
Paradise: no.
Paradise: Use Willowisp if you have it
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm sludge bomb didn't work
Houndoom Star: thunderbolt will work?
Paradise: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Paradise: yes.
Paraidse: yes, i told you to use electric moves
Houndoom Star: it didn't
Houndoom Star: Psyduck you
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Boah's...dead? It's amazing what can happen in 9 weeks in absence of netbattle.
I saw one Boah in that 9 month period that I didn't see you on.:P
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I saw two, but I'm only on like once or twice every few weeks
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How is boah 'dead' when it still will probably beat the **** out of most teams
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How is boah 'dead' when it still will probably beat the **** out of most teams
Dude boah is dead. No one uses it anymore. That's what I ment in the sense of 'dead'. It doesn't beat that many teams, well it might because no one runs counters for it anymore.:P
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Well maybe you both see it at different frequencies. Like someone thought Sala was a rare sight when the majority of NBers see it everyday.
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Well maybe you both see it at different frequencies. Like someone thought Sala was a rare sight when the majority of NBers see it everyday.
That person is blind. Although the usage might have dropped. I see it enough, just not as much as I used to.:P
 

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