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Old February 10th, 2006 (9:09 PM). Edited February 11th, 2006 by Mullet.
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[font=tahoma]Rate my team.

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Birdie
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 236 HP / 100 Def / 17 Spd / 157 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Metal Sound
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Scares away Lax, Bliss and Jirachi.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Celery Stalk
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 120 Def / 148 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Recover

orly.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spd
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Brick Break
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Megahorn
- Sleep Talk

I laugh at you.

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers ** Fishdog
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Def / 12 Spd / 96 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Wish

Wish Support. I love Wishing for Hera.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Whore
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Special Wall.

Suicune @ Leftovers ** Mineral Water
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 24 Spd / 16 SAtk / 16 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Yarly.

I'm thinking about replacing Vappy or Bliss with Claydol so I can spin.

Anyway rate/hate/whatever.

Edit: Nevermind rate.[font]
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Old February 11th, 2006 (7:05 AM).
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[font=tahoma]Rate my team.

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Birdie
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 236 HP / 100 Def / 17 Spd / 157 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Metal Sound
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Scares away Lax, Bliss and Jirachi.

But not Salamence, as you can't 2hko it.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Celery Stalk
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 120 Def / 148 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Recover

orly.

384 HP is better so you'll have room for some more defense.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spd
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Brick Break
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Megahorn
- Sleep Talk

I laugh at you.

Fine I guess.

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers ** Fishdog
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Def / 12 Spd / 96 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Wish

Wish Support. I love Wishing for Hera.

You're using this and suicune? I'm sensing a metal sound Zapdos weakness.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Whore
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Special Wall.

704 hp, put 8 into speed, put the rest in special defense.


Suicune @ Leftovers ** Mineral Water
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 24 Spd / 16 SAtk / 16 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Yarly.

If anything replace this ; this will need either Calm Mind or special defense evs, especially if you're replacing Vaporeon with Claydol.

I'm thinking about replacing Vappy or Bliss with Claydol so I can spin.

Anyway rate/hate/whatever.

Edit: Nevermind rate.[font]
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Paradise: Fire, Flying, Ghost, Dark, rock
Paradise: and toxic and sandstorm
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm...........
Houndoom Star: a weezing sludge bomb
Houndoom Star: ?
Paradise: no.
Paradise: Use Willowisp if you have it
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm sludge bomb didn't work
Houndoom Star: thunderbolt will work?
Paradise: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Paradise: yes.
Paraidse: yes, i told you to use electric moves
Houndoom Star: it didn't
Houndoom Star: Psyduck you
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Old February 11th, 2006 (7:27 AM). Edited February 11th, 2006 by Squarewalker.
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[font=tahoma]Rate my team.

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Birdie
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 236 HP / 100 Def / 17 Spd / 157 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Metal Sound
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Scares away Lax, Bliss and Jirachi.
Max hp.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Celery Stalk
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 120 Def / 148 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Recover

orly.
don't listen to Paradise, as more hp makes up for both defenses.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spd
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Brick Break
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Megahorn
- Sleep Talk

I laugh at you.
lol hardy cross, lol hp rock

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers ** Fishdog
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Def / 12 Spd / 96 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Wish

Wish Support. I love Wishing for Hera.
with EVERYTHING else other than heracross already having a recovery move, vaporeon seems quite pointless. btw, if you want to keep it though, then surf > ib, as giving up that stab move isn't the best idea.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Whore
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Special Wall.
what's new

Suicune @ Leftovers ** Mineral Water
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 24 Spd / 16 SAtk / 16 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Yarly.
By putting those SDef EVs in SAtk you can OHKO Salamence guaranteed with IB iirc.

I'm thinking about replacing Vappy or Bliss with Claydol so I can spin.

Anyway rate/hate/whatever.

Edit: Nevermind rate.[font]
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Old February 11th, 2006 (10:42 AM). Edited February 11th, 2006 by Squarewalker.
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don't listen to Paradise, as more hp makes up for both defenses.
Is 401 HP maxmum Leftovers recovery? I suggested 384 for that reason ; with Recover, you don't need protection from 4 s-tosses. If HP is just as good as Defense EVs, then he can put it into Special Attack or something, all I'm saying is that either way he is spending EVs in places he doesn't need to be.
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Houndoom Star: What moves to use against Shedinja?
Paradise: Fire, Flying, Ghost, Dark, rock
Paradise: and toxic and sandstorm
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm...........
Houndoom Star: a weezing sludge bomb
Houndoom Star: ?
Paradise: no.
Paradise: Use Willowisp if you have it
Houndoom Star: hmmmmm sludge bomb didn't work
Houndoom Star: thunderbolt will work?
Paradise: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Paradise: yes.
Paraidse: yes, i told you to use electric moves
Houndoom Star: it didn't
Houndoom Star: Psyduck you
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Old February 11th, 2006 (11:46 AM).
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HP stands for like 120% of the defenses. More hp gives Celebi better physical AND special resistance as well, than less hp and more def EVs (which don't give it better resistance to special attacks), and can also regain more hp back with Recover. It also gets 1 more point of lefties recovery. Not neccesarly to survive 4 s-tosses. (Then again, Celebi might even work a tad better with max hp. =/ ) Therefore, imo, 401 (or 404 HP) is better than just giving it 384.
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Old February 11th, 2006 (1:30 PM).
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I personally would go FP on Hera and let Zappy stalk. Needs more Claydol/Donphan IMO.
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Old February 11th, 2006 (7:51 PM).
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Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spd
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Brick Break
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Megahorn
- Sleep Talk

I laugh at you.
lol hardy cross, lol hp rock

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers ** Fishdog
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Def / 12 Spd / 96 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Wish

Wish Support. I love Wishing for Hera.
with EVERYTHING else other than heracross already having a recovery move, vaporeon seems quite pointless. btw, if you want to keep it though, then surf > ib, as giving up that stab move isn't the best idea.
Do not lol at the powar of Hardy, it should be Adamant. HP [Rock] because RS sucks. I hate predicting because a lot of times when I'm attempting to predict with Cross I ph4il.

Wishpass to Hera, and plus if I can't switch the Poke in and let it take the hit I can pass.


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I personally would go FP on Hera and let Zappy stalk. Needs more Claydol/Donphan IMO.
I discussed about Claydol in my first post.:\
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Old February 12th, 2006 (7:03 AM).
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HP [Rock] because RS sucks
....you phail. Lost stats for an HP should not be inflicted on Heracross IMO.

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I discussed about Claydol in my first post.
I'm just saying. Heck, I might be just confirming what you said about Claydol.
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Is 401 HP maxmum Leftovers recovery? I suggested 384 for that reason ; with Recover, you don't need protection from 4 s-tosses. If HP is just as good as Defense EVs, then he can put it into Special Attack or something, all I'm saying is that either way he is spending EVs in places he doesn't need to be.
384 isn't max leftovers recovery fo celebi =x
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Old February 12th, 2006 (1:18 PM).
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....you phail. Lost stats for an HP should not be inflicted on Heracross IMO.


I'm just saying. Heck, I might be just confirming what you said about Claydol.
Ha no u. I can invest 4 EVs to give him another stat point in the nessary spots. I willing to do so because RS has screwed me over so many times.

Orly?
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Yarly. And lots of NB stuff has screwed you over. You need to get over that ph34r and use Rock Slide plz.

Nice sig btw.
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Old February 12th, 2006 (2:20 PM).
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Yarly. And lots of NB stuff has screwed you over. You need to get over that ph34r and use Rock Slide plz.

Nice sig btw.
Well RS screws me over the most it never hits and never makes anything flinch.

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