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Old February 22nd, 2006 (6:40 AM).
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I've heard of this deadly combination before, but I have no clue what it is other than a Skarmory and a Blissey. I want to make this combination and test it out in in-game double battles, just to see how cheap it is. Mind giving me the dirt on it? Or at least what the strategy employs?

Don't worry; I'd never be so rude as to use it on a friend, unless they wanted to see what it did as well.
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Old February 22nd, 2006 (7:04 AM).
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I've heard of this deadly combination before, but I have no clue what it is other than a Skarmory and a Blissey. I want to make this combination and test it out in in-game double battles, just to see how cheap it is. Mind giving me the dirt on it? Or at least what the strategy employs?

Don't worry; I'd never be so rude as to use it on a friend, unless they wanted to see what it did as well.
I actually think it's not so good in double battles, but I dunno, I never do them. The thing is, they wall. Skarmory walls physical with it's high defense. Blissey walls special with it's high HP and respectable special defense. Blissey eats your Starmie, so you switch to Snorlax, which gets answered by a switch to Skarm. This combo is the main reason why physical sweepers pack Flamethrower or Fire Blast. And I'd say Boah and McGar exist because of this too.
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Old February 22nd, 2006 (10:59 AM).
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Also note that you wont be rude in using it on your friends, as any good player should be able to deal with sucha combo through skillfully switching and attaking.
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Old February 22nd, 2006 (2:43 PM).
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Blissey's sp.def is a lot more than "respectable", 135 is 5 less than Kyogre and is equal to Metagross's, Dragonite's, and Tyranitar's attack. And this combo isn't especially deadly in double battles, in that case it would actually be several times more easy to counter, as you'd be able to have both a physical and special sweeper out on the field at the same time.
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Old February 22nd, 2006 (3:37 PM).
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Blissey's sp.def is a lot more than "respectable", 135 is 5 less than Kyogre and is equal to Metagross's, Dragonite's, and Tyranitar's attack. And this combo isn't especially deadly in double battles, in that case it would actually be several times more easy to counter, as you'd be able to have both a physical and special sweeper out on the field at the same time.
Well, I'm sure you'll agree that once you compare it with the HP you automatically call it respectable rather than awesome. Besides, since other stats (most likely defense) take up a lot of EV's you won't get it that high anyway ... usually something like 320-335.
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Old February 22nd, 2006 (4:16 PM).
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Blissey's sp.def is a lot more than "respectable", 135 is 5 less than Tyranitar's attack.
Off by one point iirc. Its 134 Lol
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Old February 22nd, 2006 (5:03 PM).
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Well Blissey's SDef must be awesome since we don't need that many EVs in that stat to wall the best of Special Sweepers.
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Old February 23rd, 2006 (11:15 AM).
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These are the standard sets:

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Whore
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Walls special attackers.

Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers ** Metal Bird
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Atk / 196 Def / 16 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]/Drill Peck
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind/Roar

Uses Spikes, phazes stat uppers and BPers, and walls physical attackers.

Note: You can't have DP and WW on the same set as it is an illegal combination of Egg Moves.
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Old February 23rd, 2006 (12:58 PM).
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unless you're dumb you don't give bliss any Sp.def EVs anyway.

or don't have ice beam. then you can just let Gengar and Salamence rape you.
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Old February 23rd, 2006 (3:37 PM).
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Ah; so it's not so great after all. Thanks for the info; I am now somewhat educated on the subject.
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Old February 23rd, 2006 (4:07 PM).
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Well it is great, but it's not to be feared like some monster, which alot of inexperienced battlers do, and clause it in their info.
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