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View Poll Results: Which type of HP is most effective against common taunt users?
Electric 2 25%
Fighting 3 38%
Fire 0 0%
Ice 0 0%
Water 0 0%
Ghost 0 0%
Grass 0 0%
Ground 0 0%
Rock 0 0%
other 3 38%
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Old February 23rd, 2006 (10:17 AM).
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Which attack type is most effecitve against Taunt users? Please take into account the # of Taunting Pokes that are weak to the move, along with their frequency.
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Old February 23rd, 2006 (10:54 AM).
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Bug, most notably. Hits the most common taunters hard, Ttar and Umbreon. Fighting can work good also.
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Old February 23rd, 2006 (11:03 AM).
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What Giga said.

Too bad you suck at making polls.
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Or Brick Break, because it is like HYPNO NO REFLECT FOR YOU.:D
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Old February 23rd, 2006 (12:56 PM).
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where's the 'I use a Choice Band team so taunt doesn't ****ing affect me' option?
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Old February 23rd, 2006 (4:34 PM).
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Too bad you suck at making polls.
IMO he does suck at battling but saying "you suck" for no reason makes you the sucky one as you are trying to act cool by (trying) to jump on the bandwagon.

Anyways, ham, you use ***atron sometimes on your cb team so yes, taunt does affect you. :P

Voted for fighting.
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Old February 24th, 2006 (11:30 AM).
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I probably should have specified taunting physical sweepers.
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IMO he does suck at battling but saying "you suck" for no reason makes you the sucky one as you are trying to act cool by (trying) to jump on the bandwagon.
I wasn't jumping on the bandwagon, I was mearly saying that this poll sucks. I did have a reason for saying you make sucky polls, I never did say "you suck" though (even though he does).:\
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Uh... it depends on the Pokemon: the one thats attacking and the one thats taunting. Say, you have a jolteon against a gyarados. You would use Thunderbolt instead of HP:Rock or something....

It also depends on the stats of both pokemon. If the attacker has more SpAtk, you would use a special move. Take jolteon again for example. You would NEVER use HP:Rock just for things like salamence. You would use HP:Ice.

So yeah... there is no real answer to this poll...
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I wasn't jumping on the bandwagon, I was mearly saying that this poll sucks. I did have a reason for saying you make sucky polls, I never did say "you suck" though (even though he does).:\
It's a poll. You vote. You leave. The End.

K, no more "wars" against you and me.
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can i jump on the bandwagon
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It's a poll. You vote. You leave. The End.

K, no more "wars" against you and me.
Polls are for discussion too.;)
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can i jump on the bandwagon
I agree with GG.

You may jump on the bandwagon.
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Now, based on my record of posting, can anyone deduce what I am trying to do with this poll?
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It's obvious you want to know what would be better for an Umbreon to use to counter what counters it. It's also obvious to build a balanced enough team to be smart enough not to give Umbreon the move Hidden Power without Curse.
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Old February 28th, 2006 (10:41 AM).
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Thanks for helping me with this. I will still test Wish support Umbry but I think I will continue to go with HP Fighting.
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Forget hidden Power. It's not a good idea
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If wish works out better I use it. If not, and I will test it on Smogon server, I will use HP. Anything else that might be better(other than Taunt because Umbry is too slow).
Also, how fast will Umbry be with Timid and 100 SPD EVs?
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If wish works out better I use it. If not, and I will test it on Smogon server, I will use HP. Anything else that might be better(other than Taunt because Umbry is too slow).
Also, how fast will Umbry be with Timid and 100 SPD EVs?
All it needs is 224 Spd EVs and bold nature, and it still Taunts Skarmory and Tyranitar while still holding up its defenses.
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It's also obvious to build a balanced enough team to be smart enough not to give Umbreon the move Hidden Power without Curse.
Hidden Power is just a bad idea all together. Cursebreon passes Curses and isn't supposed to use them.

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If wish works out better I use it. If not, and I will test it on Smogon server, I will use HP. Anything else that might be better(other than Taunt because Umbry is too slow).
Also, how fast will Umbry be with Timid and 100 SPD EVs?
Wish will always work better, Umby NEEDS to heal itself in order to pass Curses. Eww Timid.

I'm pretty sure these arn't the standared EVs, but this is about all I could seem to do, lol:

Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers ** 1337ness
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 76 HP / 112 Def / 224 Spd / 96 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Curse
- Wish
- Taunt

Taunt other stat uppers and pass Curses to Pert, or Lax.
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its more like:

Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers ** 1337ness
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 212 HP / 72 Def / 224 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Curse
- Wish
- Taunt

And it still takes hits well.
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More like I'm failing to see a practical point in having Taunt with any sort of speed on that set at all. First off, Cursebreon is often passing to either something god awfully slow anyway (Snorlax) or something fast with White Herb (Aero). Anything that comes in is going to be a phazer (or a Heracross/Medicham). They try to Roar. You Taunt, they always go second, you prevent them from A. Using Phazing, and B. Using Stat Ups/Spikes. That, and you need the added SDef to help weather the non-physical hits that will soon be raining down to try and eliminate Umbreon before he can complete his Cursepassing. Skarmory and Tyranitar argument, you say? Tauntmory is too situational a threat to even worry about, and a team using Umbreon always needs a Bulky Water hanging around somewhere regardless, you know that, Umby.

My new EVs motto: When creating EVs, don't tailor them to counter specific Pokemon or you are cheating yourself out of the grand picture. You gotta look for all the possible threats, no matter how minor, not just one or two. (Only exception is the old 101 HP Subs ploy)


Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 212 HP / 200 Def / 96 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Wish
- Baton Pass
- Taunt

This is the kind of set up that I would personally use. Allows Umby to weather special hits much better, and if you Curse on the switch from something else, you've made up the defenses you lost in spades.
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