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View Poll Results: Which Umbry set is best of the ones listed?
Charmbreon 1 100%
Lockbreon 0 0%
Chasebreon 0 0%
Dodgebreon 0 0%
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Old February 27th, 2006 (10:26 AM).
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[email protected]^^Charmbreon
EVs: 252 HP/100 ATK/158 DEF
Adamant (ATK+/SA-)
-Hidden Power[Fighting]
-Charm
-Baton Pass
-Mean Look

[email protected]^^Lockbreon
Adamant nature(ATK+/SA-)
Mean Look
Screech
HP Fighting
Shadow Ball
252 HP/100 ATK/79 DEF/79 SD

[email protected]^^Chasebreon
Modest(SA+/ATK-)
252 HP/(enough for 200 SA)/rest split between DEF/SD
C Ray
Pursuit
Wish
Taunt

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252 HP/128 DEF/128 SD
Bold (DEF+/ATK-)
Substitute
Wish
Double Team
Baton Pass

The one with HP Fighting is mine. The others are all sets of random Smogoners. Which set is the best? And just vote, don't say that they all suck.
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Old February 27th, 2006 (10:53 AM).
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[email protected]^^Charmbreon
EVs: 252 HP/100 ATK/158 DEF
Adamant (ATK+/SA-)
-Hidden Power[Fighting]
-Charm
-Baton Pass
-Mean Look

Hidden Power is refriggindundant ffs. This thing is mment to be more defensive and requires more defensive spreads. If you want to use Hidden Power so bad, use Cursebreon.

[email protected]^^Lockbreon
Adamant nature(ATK+/SA-)
Mean Look
Screech
HP Fighting
Shadow Ball
252 HP/100 ATK/79 DEF/79 SD

Without healing it, just gets thrased eventually before Screech can help anyway, especially now that its not Bold Natured.

[email protected]^^Chasebreon
Modest(SA+/ATK-)
252 HP/(enough for 200 SA)/rest split between DEF/SD
C Ray
Pursuit
Wish
Taunt

Gengar and Alakazam are the only things Pursuit would be decent on, and they do around 30% without switching, and close to 50% on the switch without SAtk EVs from my experience.

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252 HP/128 DEF/128 SD
Bold (DEF+/ATK-)
Substitute
Wish
Double Team
Baton Pass

its Protect/Mean Look/Pursuit over Double team, and the spread is 244 HP / 176 Def / 88 SDef with Relaxed nature and a 00 Speed IV

The one with HP Fighting is mine. The others are all sets of random Smogoners. Which set is the best? And just vote, don't say that they all suck.
They all suck. The best set is chaosbreon.
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Old February 27th, 2006 (2:46 PM).
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[email protected]^^Charmbreon
EVs: 252 HP/100 ATK/158 DEF
Adamant (ATK+/SA-)
-Hidden Power[Fighting]
-Charm
-Baton Pass
-Mean Look

Ok. This set was decently promising up until you decided to put a Hidden Power on it. IT DOESN'T NEED IT. UMBREON DOES NOT NEED TO ATTACK. Wish or Substitute are much better replacements for that slot there.

[email protected]^^Lockbreon
Adamant nature(ATK+/SA-)
Mean Look
Screech
HP Fighting
Shadow Ball
252 HP/100 ATK/79 DEF/79 SD

Too slow to accomplish anything you want it to do. Without Wish or Moonlight support, it will just get worn down before it can actually do anything effective.

[email protected]^^Chasebreon
Modest(SA+/ATK-)
252 HP/(enough for 200 SA)/rest split between DEF/SD
C Ray
Pursuit
Wish
Taunt

Far too situational.

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252 HP/128 DEF/128 SD
Bold (DEF+/ATK-)
Substitute
Wish
Double Team
Baton Pass

Double Team automatically makes the person who "invented" this set a nub.
You have had people for god knows how long telling you what the best sets for Umbreon are, yet you still continue to nubbify the masses and throw these heaping masses of garbage upon us. Your own set was promisingly close to a workable standard set that already exists until i saw the words "Hidden Power" sitting there. As such, I am not going to vote for any of them being "best", because none of them are even worth a second look, imo.
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Old February 27th, 2006 (6:51 PM).
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None of them are good. They all suck. I know you have NB so at least use team bulider---->Export to text format.

Attacking Umby is not good.
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