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Old March 3rd, 2006 (6:21 PM).
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Here we go again, as I try once more...

Umbreon @ leftovers
Trait: synchronize
EV: 252 HP, 176 DEF, 82 SP.DEF
Impish nature (+DEF, -SP.ATK)
-mean look
-wish
-baton pass
-charm

Wish passing!

Cradily @ leftovers
Trait: suction cups
EV: 96 HP, 140 ATK, 200 DEF, 72 SP.DEF
Relaxed (+SPD, -ATK)
-rock slide
-barrier
-recover
-mirror coat

works surprisingly well

Heracross @ salac berry
Trait: guts
EV: 136 HP, 136 ATK, 236 SPD
Jolly (+SPD, -SP.ATK)
-substitute
-focus punch
-megahorn
-reversal

Kill my precious KILL!

Snorlax @ leftovers
Trait: immunity
EV: 160 HP, 76 ATK, 136 DEF, 136 SP.DEF
Careful (+SP.DEF, -SP.ATK)
-rest
-earthquake
-curse
-body slam

Curselax, same old

Gengar @ salac berry
Trait: levitate
EV: 31 DEF, 252 SPD, 197 SP.ATK, SP.DEF 30
Timid (+SPD, -ATK)
-giga drain
-thunderbolt
-psychic (i need it in my defence as i dont have a psychicer)
-destiny bond (muahahahhaha)

Gengar is my love

Starmie @ leftovers
Trait: Natural cure
EV: 252 HP, 24 DEF, 179 SPD, 28 SP.ATK, 29 SP.DEF
Timid (+SPD, -ATK)
-ice beam
-surf
-recover
-rapid spin

Wadda ya think...
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Old March 3rd, 2006 (6:34 PM).
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Here we go again, as I try once more...

Umbreon @ leftovers
Trait: synchronize
EV: 252 HP, 176 DEF, 82 SP.DEF
Impish nature (+DEF, -SP.ATK)
-mean look
-wish
-baton pass
-charm

I like the spread, but maybe go 212 HP for max lefties.

Wish passing!

Cradily @ leftovers
Trait: suction cups
EV: 96 HP, 140 ATK, 200 DEF, 72 SP.DEF
Relaxed (+SPD, -ATK)
-rock slide
-barrier
-recover
-mirror coat

works surprisingly well

I'll have to take your word for it. Take some out of Defense and put it into your next Max lefties level. It does matter, somewhat, but use Adamant

Heracross @ salac berry
Trait: guts
EV: 136 HP, 136 ATK, 236 SPD
Jolly (+SPD, -SP.ATK)
-substitute
-focus punch
-megahorn
-reversal

Kill my precious KILL!

Heracross doesn't work too well as a subpuncher anymore, especially not on a Reversal set. Go with a CB set and use a 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd spread with Adamant

Snorlax @ leftovers
Trait: immunity
EV: 160 HP, 76 ATK, 136 DEF, 136 SP.DEF
Careful (+SP.DEF, -SP.ATK)
-rest
-earthquake
-curse
-body slam

Curselax, same old


Doesn't need that much defense IMO. Put a little more in SDef, HP, or Atk. I personally like Thick Fat, but meh.

Gengar @ salac berry
Trait: levitate
EV: 31 DEF, 252 SPD, 197 SP.ATK, SP.DEF 30
Timid (+SPD, -ATK)
-giga drain
-thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
-destiny bond (muahahahhaha)

Gengar is my love

Psychic is really only useful with STAB, and Gengar would rather take out that Salamence than fear the Fighting types that can't touch it (save Rock Slide) or the Poison types that can't reall do anthing to it either. take the EVs our of Def and SDef and go with a 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk spread. You've have Salac, so I'd go Modest. Personally I use Leftovers and put Explosion over Destiny bond.



Starmie @ leftovers
Trait: Natural cure
EV: 252 HP, 24 DEF, 179 SPD, 28 SP.ATK, 29 SP.DEF
Timid (+SPD, -ATK)
-ice beam
-surf
-recover
-rapid spin

Doesn't need that much HP. Take EVs out of Def and SDef and put it in Speed and SAtk. The spread I use s 172 HP / 96 Spd / 240 SAtk, although some say that spread needs less HP and more Spd.

Wadda ya think...

In the team builder, use File -> Export to Text. CBCross leaves a heavy dent in your team, regardless of Umbreon and Cradily's efforts. Umbreon doesn't really serve a purpose, as Cradily has Barrier, Snorlax has Curse, and Gengar is made to die anyway. Leadoff with Gengar to beat most Starters. Really needs a good Physical Wall.
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CBCross? OMFG after I worked SOOO hard to type that all in u tell me i could just use that **** export to text...next time.. Sorry bout the steal, lol never noticed, neways... wadda ya mean by

but maybe go 212 HP for max lefties

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Take some out of Defense and put it into your next Max lefties level. It does matter, somewhat, but use Adamant

shutup cause i dunno how to quote...=|im a n00b
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CBCross? OMFG after I worked SOOO hard to type that all in u tell me i could just use that **** export to text...next time.. Sorry bout the steal, lol never noticed, neways... wadda ya mean by

but maybe go 212 HP for max lefties

and

Take some out of Defense and put it into your next Max lefties level. It does matter, somewhat, but use Adamant

shutup cause i dunno how to quote...=|im a n00b

Lefties, short for Leftovers, heals 1/16th of the Pokemon’s max HP. If you make the Pokemon’s HP perfectly divisible by 16, you can put those extra EVs in other areas. For example, Umbreon with 252 HP EVs has 394 HP, which is not divisble by 16. But Umbreon with 212 EVs has 384 HP, which IS divisible by 16. This gives you 40 extra EVs to put in other places.

You don’t have to do this for every Pokemon. Some Pokemon need max HP in order to properly wall, like Dusclops or Skarmory.

Also CBCross means Choice Band Heracross. Any time CB appears in front of a Pokemon, it means that Pokemon has Choice Band. For instance:

CBGross= Choice Band Metagross
CBMence=Choice Band Salamence
CBTar=Choice Band Tyranitar

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Ok, I thuoght it meant CBgross... Anyways, whats the difference with lefties and shell bell? And Synch, are you saying I should get rid of Umbreon for a defensive wall??(I wasnt really looking last time I replied...)
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Ok, I thuoght it meant CBgross... Anyways, whats the difference with lefties and shell bell?

Shell Bell restores HP by 1/8 of damage to opponent. So it will only heal you if you attack the opponent and the harder you attack, the more you will heal. Leftovers heals 1/16 of your HP everytime no matter what you do. So overall, Lefties is better due to the guaranteed healing.

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OMFG after I worked SOOO hard to type that all in u tell me i could just use that **** export to text...next time..
He was telling you that because it's easier for you to post, and easier for everyone else to read.:\
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Yes and I thank him in advance for next time....
Instead of umby...

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 32 Atk / 188 Def / 36 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Seismic Toss
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

PS. Sorry for copying your EV setup...It was so sexy thuogh
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Old March 4th, 2006 (9:39 AM).
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I prefer standard or Subclops.

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers ** FTW?
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 204 HP / 80 Atk / 184 Def / 40 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Pain Split
- Seismic Toss / Focus Punch
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute

Thank you Pyro. Use more attack if using FP

Dusclops (F) @ Leftovers ** Cyclops
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 176 Def / 24 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Pain Split
- Seismic Toss / Focus Punch
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

This is the standard. More attack if using FP.

Watch out for Hera and Milo, Guts and Marvel Scale respectively can be a real pain.
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Gengar (F) @ Salac Berry ** Boo
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Hypnosis
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt

Metagross @ Leftovers ** Mr. Gross
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 140 HP / 216 Atk / 48 Def / 104 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band ** Cant Touch me
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Facade
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Chubs
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 204 HP / 84 Atk / 58 Def / 164 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Rest
- Shadow Ball

Jolteon (F) @ Leftovers ** Joltyon
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 196 HP / 215 Spd / 99 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Wish

Starmie @ Leftovers ** StarStar
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 94 Spd / 244 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

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NVM on the tbolt on starmie, i tried it and it sucked... I need ice beam for the salamences
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NVM on the tbolt on starmie, i tried it and it sucked... I need ice beam for the salamences
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Old March 5th, 2006 (11:52 AM).
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lol, watch the double posts. Jolteon doesnt need that much HP.
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