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Old March 11th, 2006 (7:16 PM). Edited March 15th, 2006 by Charly.
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Right now I'm trying to beat the Battle Frontier...

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Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

[email protected] Band-Guts
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-rockslide
-facade

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Timid EV SA252 S252 HP6
-substitute
-icepunch
-thunderbolt
-gigadrain

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Adamant EV A92 D140 SD120 HP158
-rest
-earthquake
-bodyslam
-curse

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Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-surf
-rest
-icebeam
-raindance

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Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-phychic
-thunderpunch
-firepunch
-calmmind

Thank you...
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Old March 11th, 2006 (8:12 PM).
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I hope you realize that you can’t use the same item twice in the Battle Frontier…

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Right now I'm trying to beat the Battle Frontier...

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Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

Standard set. I'd switch its Leftovers for Snorlax, who needs it more, and give Salamence something else. Maybe Scope Lens

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Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-rockslide
-Facade

I'd totally go with Choice Band here. CB Heracross rocks in so many ways. Hopefully your Cross has the Guts ability, because then it will actually enjoy being statused since its Attack doubles after CB+Guts (this is especially handy for the Battle Tube)

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Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-leafblade
-thunderpunch
Substitute
Leech Seed/Focus Punch


Bleh, I don't like Sceptile with all 4 attack moves. Alakazam is way better for this job. Even Gengar too. It needs a support move in there somewhere. SubSeed is the way to go, or use Focus Punch if you don't want to go through the hassle of breeding.

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Adamant EV D129 SD129 HP252
-rest
-earthquake
Body Slam/Return
Curse


It looks good on paper, but good luck pulling it off for real. At half health, even strong special attacks can finish off Snorlax. Not to mention that Snorlax is so slow that your opponent can attack you twice, killing you before you got the chance to Rest. The Battle Frontier isn't the place to take risks like this.
I'd go with standard Curselax, since its more reliable. Give it Earthquake since Steels/Rocks are way more problematic than Gengar.
Also, its EVs need work. Concentrate on Special Defense, give it around 100-140 in Defense, about 100 in Attack, and put the rest in HP.


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Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-surf
-rest
-icebeam
-raindance

This reminds me of the standard Kingdras back in the days of GSC

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Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-phychic
-thunderpunch
-firepunch
-calmmind

I'd put Lum Berry on this one to take advantage of Synchronize so that when your opponent statuses you, they'll be statused and you won't. Other wise, solid moveset.
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Old March 11th, 2006 (8:58 PM).
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Thanks heaps I'll edit my team...
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Old March 14th, 2006 (4:35 AM).
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Sweeping Sceptile can work, I use it quite effectively:

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Old March 14th, 2006 (5:37 AM).
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Which three pokemon do you plan on using for what events? Trust me thats important... thats why I got owned with my crap team years ago. But they were all sweepers... You still need some non sweepers...
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Old March 14th, 2006 (6:55 AM).
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I don't care for that sceptile though...might as well stick thunder punch in there over crunch..[and maybe HP ice over fire]
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Old March 14th, 2006 (11:48 PM).
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If I were to charge Sceptile who should I pick and please give me moves and all please.
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Old March 15th, 2006 (1:45 AM).
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Sceptile is a great Pokemon, it’s fine as it is. But another great Pokemon to use against the Frontier leaders is Gengar. Immune to Normal, Fighting and Ground, it’s also fast and can hit hard. Make sure it gets Substitute since a lot of Pokemon like to use status moves.

Gengar @Shell Bell
Nature: Timid
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Substitute
Ice Punch
Thunderbolt
Giga Drain/Destiny Bond/Will-o-wisp

This Gengar can handle most Pokemon except for Snorlax/Regice/Blissey. And you WILL face a Snorlax and Regice since they’re Pokemon used by the Frontier leaders. You could use Focus Punch, but you’ll have to change your Nature and its hard to set EVs for mixed sweepers in-game. Gengar can still handle the Snorlax with Will-o-wisp (it doesn’t have Rest). It’s best to use your own Snorlax when fighting Regice.

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Old March 15th, 2006 (10:34 AM).
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Old March 25th, 2006 (2:59 AM). Edited March 25th, 2006 by Charly.
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Here is a team I’ve been planing but needs some help…

Scizor
Jolly EV D129 SD129 S252
-batonpass
-swordsdance
-agility
-steelwing

Salamence
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

Heracross-Guts
Jolly EV A252 S252 HP6
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-rockslide
-swordsdance

Charizard
Nature ??? EV ??? S252
-flamethrower (I need this)
-aerialace
-earthquake
-swordsdance or dragondance

Gengar
Timid EV SA252 S252 HP6
-substitute
-icepunch
-thunderbolt
-gigadrain

Starmie-Natural cure
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-surf
-thunderbolt
-icebeam
-phychic

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Old March 26th, 2006 (1:20 AM).
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Although you waited 10 days, please don’t double post. If you’re simply bumping this thread up, at least delete your last one.

First off, what happened to Snorlax? Not only was it your only defense against Special Attacks, but it also rocks in the Battle Frontier. Much more useful than Charizard in my opinion.

Also, don’t use 252/252/6 EV spreads for all of your Pokemon. It's too basic and unnessecary in some cases.

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Here is a team I’ve been planing but needs some help…

Scizor
Jolly EV D129 SD129 S252
-batonpass
-swordsdance
-agility
-steelwing

Less speed since you're going to be using Agility anyways. Try putting some in HP. I honestly don't know how well Baton Passing will work in the Battle Frontier. They are usually fast-paced so setting up with BP is rather risky.


Salamence
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

Not even a Salamence with the worst Speed possible needs that many EVs in it. On average, around 176 is enough. Put the rest into HP.

Heracross-Guts Item: Choice Band
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-rockslide
-Facade

Make it a Choice Bander, I find it to be much more useful than SDCross for full-out offensiveness. Also, Adamant nature always.


Charizard
Nature ??? EV ??? S252
-flamethrower (I need this)
-aerialace
-earthquake
-swordsdance or dragondance

Dragon Dance gives it greater sweeping potential against normally faster opponents, but again, Salamence does this way better. Keep Snorlax please.


Gengar
Timid EV SA252 S252 HP6
-substitute
-icepunch
-thunderbolt
-gigadrain

Good if you're not afraid of special walls (Gengar takes care of those).


Starmie-Natural cure
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-surf
-thunderbolt
-icebeam
-Recover

Psychic is not useful on Starmie since it already handles every other Pokemon with it's other 3 attacks (besides Lanturn, but only an idiot would keep Starmie in on Lanturn). Recover please. Timid is preferred, but Modest works too. Give it more EVs in HP.
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Old March 26th, 2006 (4:10 AM).
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Sorry for double posting I was just trying to get noticed like you said... anyway I can't get curse for snorlax because I can't get slowpoke. I'm not good with EVs so could please show the numbers and the way you explained it Scizor isn't a good idea so maybe I'll have to change it to a tank but which pokemon,sorry again.

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Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

[email protected] Band-Guts
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-rockslide
-facade

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Timid EV SA252 S252 HP6
-substitute
-icepunch
-thunderbolt
-gigadrain

Starmie-Natural cure (or should I stay with Kingdra)
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-surf
-thunderbolt
-icebeam
-Recover

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Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-phychic
-thunderpunch
-firepunch
-calmmind
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Old March 26th, 2006 (6:29 AM).
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Snorlax dosnt have to use curse. Personally every team i make always has some sort of snorlax. If i didnt have access to curse i would go with

EVs: 115 HP / 137 Atk / 81 Def / 177 SDef [edit:might need attack EVs, but i skip that on curselax]
Leftovers
Rest
Sleep Talk
Double-Edge
Earthquake
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Old March 26th, 2006 (7:08 AM).
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Sorry for double posting I was just trying to get noticed like you said... anyway I can't get curse for snorlax because I can't get slowpoke.
Torkoal learns Curse naturally. Breed Torkoal with Rhyhorn to get Curse on Rhyhorn. Breed Rhyhorn with Snorlax to get Curse on Snorlax.
 

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