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Old March 18th, 2006 (2:43 PM).
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Mullet is going to stay on topic insted of flaming Tory (even though he deserves it).

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On my Emerald, my team is:

Rayquaza- level 100 @Leftovers
Moves: Aerial Ace, Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Rock Slide/Extreame Speed

Kyogre- level 78 @Leftovers
Moves: Calm Mind, Surf, Thunder, Ice Beam/Rest

Groudon- level 78 @Choice Band
Moves: Earthquake, Rock Slide, Thunderwave, Fire Blast/Flamethrower

Man you guys forgot about the cool CB Groudon. It's nearly impossible to get HP [Bug] in game so go with Flamethrower or Fire Blast. Use AGs set if you don't use this, but this is actually better than SD Groudon imo.


Blaziken- level 78 @Lefties
Moves: flamethrower, Bulk Up/Swords Dance, Sky Uppercut, Thunderpunch

Alakazam- level 43 @Lum Berry/Lefties
Moves: Calm Mind, Fire Punch/Psychic, Thunderpunch/Psychic, Ice Punch/Psychic

weak pokemon with EXP share- wigglytuff level 26
Moves: pound, disable, rollout, doubleslap

Honestly use something else like Miltank, Snorlax or Blissey.

What do you think? And no, I didn't use Gameshark on my Rayquaza. I wish I had one, though.
Next time include held items please.

There you have it fixed up and ready to battle. Hope this helps.
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Old March 18th, 2006 (3:52 PM).
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Moves: flamethrower, Bulk Up/Swords Dance, Sky Uppercut, Thunderpunch
Thunderpunch isnt gonna OHKO any good water pokemon, and if its being used as a "hit em and die", doesnt it make more sense to use endure and replace sky uppercut with reversal? Even if that move is known by all trainers, it can still help throw the opponent off gaurd...
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Remember that this is in-game and there is only one Rock Slide tutor. Rock Slide is going to be given to Groudon, so Blaziken will have to make due with Thunderpunch.
EndReversal is only truly effective with Salac Berry, and Salac Berry cannot be obtained in-game.

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Remember that this is in-game and there is only one Rock Slide tutor. Rock Slide is going to be given to Groudon, so Blaziken will have to make due with Thunderpunch.
You can onli teach one pokemon a move via tutor? I thought u could teach multiple pokemon a move tutor move...
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Mullet is going to stay on topic insted of flaming Tory (even though he deserves it).

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Next time include held items please.

There you have it fixed up and ready to battle. Hope this helps.
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On my Emerald, my team is:

Rayquaza- level 100 @Leftovers
Moves: Aerial Ace, Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Rock Slide/Extreame Speed

Kyogre- level 78 @Leftovers
Moves: Calm Mind, Surf, Thunder, Ice Beam/Rest

Groudon- level 78 @Choice Band
Moves: Earthquake, Rock Slide, Thunderwave, Fire Blast/Flamethrower

Man you guys forgot about the cool CB Groudon. It's nearly impossible to get HP [Bug] in game so go with Flamethrower or Fire Blast. Use AGs set if you don't use this, but this is actually better than SD Groudon imo.

Blaziken- level 78 @Lefties
Moves: flamethrower, Bulk Up/Swords Dance, Sky Uppercut, Thunderpunch

Alakazam- level 43 @Lum Berry/Lefties
Moves: Calm Mind, Fire Punch/Psychic, Thunderpunch/Psychic, Ice Punch/Psychic

weak pokemon with EXP share- wigglytuff level 26
Moves: pound, disable, rollout, doubleslap

Honestly use something else like Miltank, Snorlax or Blissey.

What do you think? And no, I didn't use Gameshark on my Rayquaza. I wish I had one, though.
Insted of Dragon Dance, please use Crunch or Dragon Claw, its Attack is high enough and Speed since it hads Extreme Speed. Kyogre: perfect! Don't teach Groudon too many SP.ATK since its up 210-240, use Solar Beam. PH.ATK moves like Body Slam or Brick Break. For Blaziken, where is the Blaze Kick? It doesn't need Sword Dance for the 100th time! Its attack is high enough, over 300+ ATTACK! Use Mirror Move, Slash or Aerial Ace. No, no , no! Alakazam needs Reflect insted of Calm Mind, its DEFENSE is too low! Lum Berry on Alakazam? What-the-f!? Leftovers is fine, but use White Herb!
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Mullet is going to stay on topic insted of flaming Tory (even though he deserves it).

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Next time include held items please.

There you have it fixed up and ready to battle. Hope this helps.
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Exuse me, mullet, but if I wanted to know good hold items I would have asked for them.
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Old March 18th, 2006 (9:01 PM).
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I don't deserve anything worth crap!

Insted of Dragon Dance, please use Crunch or Dragon Claw, its Attack is high enough and Speed since it hads Extreme Speed. Kyogre: perfect! Don't teach Groudon too many SP.ATK since its up 210-240, use Solar Beam. PH.ATK moves like Body Slam or Brick Break. For Blaziken, where is the Blaze Kick? It doesn't need Sword Dance for the 100th time! Its attack is high enough, over 300+ ATTACK! Use Mirror Move, Slash or Aerial Ace. No, no , no! Alakazam needs Reflect insted of Calm Mind, its DEFENSE is too low! Lum Berry on Alakazam? What-the-f!? Leftovers is fine, but use White Herb!
You do deserve it.

Special Rayquaza is worse than Physical Ray. Dragon Dance makes it so it can actually OHKO something with those physical attacks. Solar Beaming Groudon is bad, I only taught it a Specal attack because it's almost impossible to get HP [Bug] in game. Flamethrower is better than Blaze Kick, it does need SD or Bulk Up just because it has 'a lot of attack' doesn't mean that you shouldn't try and boost it. Mirror Move sucks it doesn't need AA or Slash. Zam won't survive a strong Physical attack even with Reflect, Lum Berry is good considering if it gets para'd that means it's speed is lowered which isn't good for Zam. Why would I use White Herb on Zam? You really have no idea what your talking about.

This thread is also not about what you think about my rate the point is to rate the topic makers team, no criticize someone who actualy knows what they are talking about. You lose good day sir.


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Exuse me, mullet, but if I wanted to know good hold items I would have asked for them.
As for you I suppose you have a slightly valid point, but the held items are needed to fully rate your team thus you should add them in your post.
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Exuse me, mullet, but if I wanted to know good hold items I would have asked for them.
Mullet is horrible at holded-items!

To Mullet for the best hold-items: Leftovers, White Herb, Quick Claw, Mental Herb, Brightpowder, Choice Band, King's Rock, Focus Band, Scope Lens, Liechi Berry, Ganlon Berry, Salac Berry, Petaya Berry, Apicot Berry, Lanstar Berry, Starf Berry, Sea Licence, Lax Licence, Mach Bracelet, about "Enigma Berries" there are four colors, the common color (black), red, blue, and green we don't know what Enigma effect does, its still an mystery to all of us!

EDIT: White Herb will cure status (only 1 time per battle), unlike sucky Lum Berry, White Herb will be held forever!

EDIT 2: Mirror Move doesn't suck, long as your freaking Blaziken doesn't have low SPEED for the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, time!

EDIT 3: I still didn't deserve any kind of crap!
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Mullet is horrible at holded-items!

To Mullet for the best hold-items: Leftovers, White Herb, Quick Claw, Mental Herb, Brightpowder, Choice Band, King's Rock, Focus Band, Scope Lens, Liechi Berry, Ganlon Berry, Salac Berry, Petaya Berry, Apicot Berry, Lanstar Berry, Starf Berry, Sea Licence, Lax Licence, Mach Bracelet, about "Enigma Berries" there are four colors, the common color (black), red, blue, and green we don't know what Enigma effect does, its still an mystery to all of us!
Mullet is just better than at everything. >_<

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To Tory, the best items out of his list: Leftovers, Choice Band, Liechi Berry, Salac Berry, Petaya Berry
Most of the items on that list are hax items or bad. The Berries that I left on the list are situational but they are good if used right. You forgot some of the good items though like Lum Berry.

Please for all of our sakes, just stop posting.
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Mullet is just better than at everything. >_<

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Most of the items on that list are hax items or bad. The Berries that I left on the list are situational but they are good if used right. You forgot some of the good items though like Lum Berry.

Please for all of our sakes, just stop posting.
OK! Name some items that are good Mr. Smarty Pants!
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Tory, what does it take for you to understand that Mirror Move on Blaziken fails? Blaziken is a sweeper type, meaning any decent attack from another strong Pokémon that doesn't have a type disadvantage will be likely to ohKO it. What moves exactly would be good to use via mirror move? Surf perhaps? Rock slide, maybe? As I stated before, Blaziken won't survive any a little stronger moves, making Mirror move one of the worst moves you can give Blaziken -.-

Furthermore, Water spout is actually better on Kyogre than Hydro pump, due to Kyogres high speed and SP.Attack it will be most likely to ohKO most Pokémon with Water spout before they get a chance to attack, meaning it won't miss any hp in battles which will keep Water spout's power at max, especialy in game where none of the Pokémon are ev trained (not including the ones in the battle frontier, but Kyogre is banned there anyway, so...). But Surf > all other water moves. I already said it, but I'll say it again, Hydro Pump is the worst water move you can give a Kyogre, due to it's low pp and accuracy -.-

Also, Kyogre does not need Double-edge. Ice Beam, Thunder and Surf will cover all Pokémon apart from Lanturn and Chinchou anyway. And when you add in Kyogre's attack stat you have a very suckadelic Kyogre indeed.

I don't see why the heck Blaziken would need Aerial ace and Slash, by the way. Slash has absolutely no type coverage and even if it would help Blaziken somehow Return > Slash. Aerial ace doesn't cover any real threats to Blaziken either, so what if you can land a super effective hit on a fighting or grass type? Fighting types aren't really a big threat to Blaziken and grass types even less, besides, we have Flamethrower to deal with those pesky fire types.

I also remember you saying Blaziken has high enough attack to take down almost anything with one hit and this is not true and if you would ever have battled properly ev trained Pokémon you'd know that. Swords dance will prove very useful on Blaziken if you know when to use it.

I have to say your Wigglytuff is one of the scariest thing I have ever seen, Tory. Dynamic punch and Mega kick are both horrible moves due to their very low accuracy and pp. You said Wigglytuff won't do very well and I completely disagree, of course it won't do much with the moveset you gave it. The type coverage for the moveset is horrible.

Mewtwo man, I suggest you go with Ego's Wigglytuff moveset. I have used it myself with very positive results.

Writing is too boring so I'll skip the flaws in the rest of your moveset suggestions.
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Tory, that's a warning for going offtopic and offensive posting in this thread. Take your petty bickering elsewhere, please~ ^_^; The rest of you, don't reply to him; it just fuels the problem more.
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On my Emerald, my team is:

Rayquaza- level 100
Moves: fly, thunderbolt, surf, flamethrower
I like this for three reasons.1)Thunderbolt: Dueling a water PokeMon,dosnt matter this should kill (at a lvl 100 PokeMon) anything water or otherwise.2)Surf:Wow Surf my all time fav water move,This of course is for the pesky fire PokeMon that burn your pokemon for added dam,Or even a pissy high lvl geodude with Rs(Rock Slide) one hit k.o. on a rock pokemon too.3)Flamethrower:Ahh good ol' flamethrower,this of for those annoying "sob" pokemon(I.E. Oddish)And even a high lvl ghost pokemon here and there.

Kyogre- level 78
Moves: waterspout, dive, sheercold, waterfall
Hmm well the waterspout is good along with the sheercold but...take out the dive and add surf....just a little more def aginst a high life fire pokemon with other moves besides fire(I.E. Blaziken)

Groudon- level 78
Moves: eruption, cut, fissure, rock smash

Blaziken- level 78
Moves: strength, flamethrower, earthquake, overheat

Alakazam- level 43
Moves: secret power, psychic, flash, recover

weak pokemon with EXP share- wigglytuff level 26
Moves: pound, disable, rollout, doubleslap
Lol sorry to say this but this guy is worthless no matter what lvl...please get rid of him!
What do you think? And no, I didn't use Gameshark on my Rayquaza. I wish I had one, though.
Other than what i added under your PokeMon's names this team is very well thought out and i hope to see more teams from you!
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O ya forgot to point out.
Blaziken,Has slow speed(Blaziken,Well a Blaziken trainned right is based around life not speed you dumb little kid) so mirror move sucks for this pokemon
Troy stfu you noob you do not know a thing about pokemon.
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O ya forgot to point out.
Blaziken,Has slow speed(Blaziken,Well a Blaziken trainned right is based around life not speed you dumb little kid) so mirror move sucks for this pokemon
Troy stfu you noob you do not know a thing about pokemon.
Actually, smarties already pointed that out. Flaming Tory (not Troy) isn't necessary either.

Also, as it was pointed out to Mewtwo Man, having two attacks of the same type (i.e. having both Flamethrower and Overheat on Blaziken) is bad strategy. So is OHKO moves like Fissure. Mewtwo Man also mentioned that Wigglytuff wasn't actually part of the team (why it was listed then is another question), it was just getting leveled up.

BTW - This whole thread is basically pointless since a Lv100 Rayquaza can destroy ANY Poke in-game, especially since the highest in-game Pokes don't get much higher than Lv75. Ubers used in-game is pretty cheap. If you want to be competitive, create a team of UU Pokes and then battle with them in-game. That will actually test your skill.
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OK! Name some items that are good Mr. Smarty Pants!
You do not tell me no to post!
I already told you that Lum Berry was good, there arn't that many good items out of the enormous list anyway.

I'm wondering why do you call Enigma Berry a good item if you don't know what it does?
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uh... not care?

oh yeah! I could ALLWAYS do that!

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