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Old March 18th, 2006 (2:11 PM).
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[email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATTACK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv:100 HP:370 SP.ATK:380 ATTACK:256
SP.DEF:206 DEFENCE:180 SPEED:320
Recover
Psychic
Calm Mind
Safeguard/Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Flamethrower

[email protected] Band, Nature: Jolly: SPEED+, SP.ATK-
Ability: Air Lock
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:351 ATTACK:321
SP.DEF:196 DEFENSE:190 SPEED:260
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Extremespeed

Prince [email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATTACK-
Ability: Drizzle
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:365 ATTACK:220
SP.DEF:365 DEFENSE:200 SPEED:240
Calm Mind
Hydro Pump/Surf
Ice Beam
Thunder

[email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv.100 HP:335 SP.ATK:270 ATTACK:260
SP.DEF:354 DEFENSE:201 SPEED:202
Sacred Fire
Calm Mind
Solar Beam
Recover/Thunderbolt/Thunder

[email protected], Nature: Bold: DEFENSE+, ATTACK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv.100 HP:347 SP.ATK:211 ATTACK:203
SP.DEF:377 DEFENSE:247 SPEED:249
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Psychic
Recover

GG O'[email protected] Band, Nature: Adamant: ATK+, SP.ATK-
Ability: Drought
Lv.100 HP:320 SP.ATK:200 ATTACK:340
SP.DEF:180 DEFENCE: 335 SPEED:280
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Body Slam
Overheat/Brick Break

[email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:240 ATTACK:180
SP.DEF:210 DEFENCE:190 SPEED:400
Psycho Boost
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Thunder Bolt/Recover/Fire Punch/Spikes
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Old March 18th, 2006 (2:38 PM).
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[email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATTACK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv:100 HP:370 SP.ATK:380 ATTACK:256
SP.DEF:206 DEFENCE:180 SPEED:320
Recover
Psychic
Calm Mind
Safeguard/Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Flamethrower

Your team needs Tbolt

[email protected] Band, Nature: Jolly: SPEED+, SP.ATK-
Ability: Air Lock
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:351 ATTACK:321
SP.DEF:196 DEFENSE:190 SPEED:260
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Extremespeed

meh

Prince [email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATTACK-
Ability: Drizzle
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:365 ATTACK:220
SP.DEF:365 DEFENSE:200 SPEED:240
Calm Mind
Hydro Pump/Surf
Ice Beam
Thunder

Might wanna raise the defence somehow...

[email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv.100 HP:335 SP.ATK:270 ATTACK:260
SP.DEF:354 DEFENSE:201 SPEED:202
Sacred Fire
Calm Mind
Solar Beam
Recover/Thunderbolt/Thunder

Solarbeam...

[email protected], Nature: Bold: DEFENSE+, ATTACK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv.100 HP:347 SP.ATK:211 ATTACK:203
SP.DEF:377 DEFENSE:247 SPEED:249
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Psychic
Recover

Too much calm mind, u die to a hazer

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Ability: Drought
Lv.100 HP:320 SP.ATK:200 ATTACK:340
SP.DEF:180 DEFENCE: 335 SPEED:280
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Body Slam
Overheat/Brick Break

[email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:240 ATTACK:180
SP.DEF:210 DEFENCE:190 SPEED:400
Psycho Boost
Calm Mind/Tbolt
Ice Beam
Thunder Bolt/Recover/Fire Punch/Spikes

Not all Gentle this time...
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I'm not going to flame you insted I'll just say that I AM right and don't argue with me, if you do that we will get along fine, okies. ^_^ Fixes on bold.

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[email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATTACK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv:100 HP:370 SP.ATK:380 ATTACK:256
SP.DEF:206 DEFENCE:180 SPEED:320
Recover
Psychic
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt

Use T-bolt.


[email protected] Band, Nature: Jolly: SPEED+, SP.ATK-
Ability: Air Lock
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:351 ATTACK:321
SP.DEF:196 DEFENSE:190 SPEED:260
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Extremespeed

Dragon Dance Ray is better.

Prince [email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATTACK-
Ability: Drizzle
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:365 ATTACK:220
SP.DEF:365 DEFENSE:200 SPEED:240
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice Beam/Rest
Thunder

Rest helps it tank better.

Sa[email protected], Nature: Adamant
Ability: Pressure
Lv.100 HP:335 SP.ATK:270 ATTACK:260
SP.DEF:354 DEFENSE:201 SPEED:202
Sacred Fire
Shadowball
Earthquake
Aerial Ace

Use this.


[email protected], Nature: Bold: DEFENSE+, ATTACK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv.100 HP:347 SP.ATK:211 ATTACK:203
SP.DEF:377 DEFENSE:247 SPEED:249
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Whirlwind
Recover

This is good, but WW over Psychic so other stat-uppers don't set up on you.

GG O'[email protected] Band, Nature: Adamant: ATK+, SP.ATK-
Ability: Drought
Lv.100 HP:320 SP.ATK:200 ATTACK:340
SP.DEF:180 DEFENCE: 335 SPEED:280
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Thunderwave
Fire Blast / Flamethrower


Use Dexoys-F and use:

Deoxys-F @ Petaya Berry ** orly
Trait: Pressure
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Extremespeed
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunder

This thing owns so much. I just hope you can figure out how to use it. ._.;

Hope I helped.
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Hope I helped.
I made non-gentle pokemon so you won't piss me off!

EDIT: Why everyone love the Deoxys ATTACK Form better than all the forms, Deoxys ATTACK Form is the least one I like! My favoriet one is Deoxys DEFENSE Form becuase it has better advanage than all the Deoxys with Counter and Mirror Coat and its the main form that won't faint to easily, but the rest of the forms like SPEED, ATTACK, and normal hads horrible DEFENSE!

EDIT 2: Is it true you can trade Deoxys forms into another version? Becuase I don't know if Deoxys will not or will change becuase of the verisons of the games.
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Old March 18th, 2006 (9:21 PM).
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I made non-gentle pokemon so you won't piss me off!

EDIT: Why everyone love the Deoxys ATTACK Form better than all the forms, Deoxys ATTACK Form is the least one I like! My favoriet one is Deoxys DEFENSE Form becuase it has better advanage than all the Deoxys with Counter and Mirror Coat and its the main form that won't faint to easily, but the rest of the forms like SPEED, ATTACK, and normal hads horrible DEFENSE!

EDIT 2: Is it true you can trade Deoxys forms into another version? Becuase I don't know if Deoxys will not or will change becuase of the verisons of the games.
It's not my fault that you use Gentle nature on every Poke. ._.;

Dexoys-F is the best form imo it's just such a good sweeper.

If your going to use Dexoys-L use this:

Dexoys-L
Nature:Bold
-Knock Off
-Recover
-Spikes
-Toxic

First you Knock Off the other Pokes item, then you Spike their side of the field, (Spikes is god in the Uber metagame) then you Toxic their whole team and Recover off any damage. Cosmic Power, and Seismic Toss are also options.

Dexoys forms change depending on what version it is traded too:

FR-Attack
LG-Defence
Emerald-Speed
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Old March 21st, 2006 (4:02 AM). Edited March 21st, 2006 by Fear.
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It's not my fault that you use Gentle nature on every Poke. ._.;

Dexoys-F is the best form imo it's just such a good sweeper.

If your going to use Dexoys-L use this:

Dexoys-L
Nature:Bold
-Knock Off
-Recover
-Spikes
-Toxic

First you Knock Off the other Pokes item, then you Spike their side of the field, (Spikes is god in the Uber metagame) then you Toxic their whole team and Recover off any damage. Cosmic Power, and Seismic Toss are also options.

Dexoys forms change depending on what version it is traded too:

FR-Attack
LG-Defence
Emerald-Speed
Id use this set up(I do like yours do not take me wrong):
Name: Dexoys-L
Item:Leftovers
Nature:Bold or Hasty
-Knock Off
-Spikes
-Toxic or better yet Sludge Bomb
-Frustration

Like you said:First you Knock Off the other Pokes item, then you Spike their side of the field, (Spikes is god in the Uber metagame).But instead of wasteing a move slot on recover use "Leftovers".
The Sludge bomb may do a little less dam than Toxic,But it has a better chance of hitting.
And Frustration,for the pokemon you may face that just do not take enough dam from Toxic or Sludge Bomb.

As for you b***hing out Troy.Just dont worry about it, he is a noob you just have to get use to him lol.

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Deoxys-L isn't gonna do much damage with Frustration or Sludge Bomb, since he has a low Attack and most ubers have godly defences. If you want to do direct damage, stick with something like Seismic Toss or Night Shade (100 fixed damage is nothing to sneeze at, even against ubers), or just Toxistall with Recover. Spikes does work wonders as well, especially if you are using Knock Off to remove their Lefties
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[email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATTACK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv:100 HP:370 SP.ATK:380 ATTACK:256
SP.DEF:206 DEFENCE:180 SPEED:320 Instead of posting stats, post the EVs each stat gets. Mewtwo needs 252 SA/252 SPD/6 HP
Recover
Psychic
Calm Mind T/Bolt
Flamethrower

[email protected] Band, Nature: Jolly: SPEED+, SP.ATK-
Ability: Air Lock
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:351 ATTACK:321
SP.DEF:196 DEFENSE:190 SPEED:260
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Extremespeed

Prince [email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATTACK-
Ability: Drizzle
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:365 ATTACK:220
SP.DEF:365 DEFENSE:200 SPEED:240
Calm Mind
Hydro Pump/Surf
Ice Beam
Thunder

[email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv.100 HP:335 SP.ATK:270 ATTACK:260
SP.DEF:354 DEFENSE:201 SPEED:202
Sacred Fire
Calm Mind
Solar Beam Earthquake
Recover/Thunderbolt/Thunder

[email protected], Nature: Bold: DEFENSE+, ATTACK-
Ability: Pressure
Lv.100 HP:347 SP.ATK:211 ATTACK:203
SP.DEF:377 DEFENSE:247 SPEED:249
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Psychic
Recover

GG O'[email protected] Band, Nature: Adamant: ATK+, SP.ATK- Naughty (ATK+/SD-)/Naive (SPD+/SD-)
Ability: Drought
Lv.100 HP:320 SP.ATK:200 ATTACK:340
SP.DEF:180 DEFENCE: 335 SPEED:280
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Body Slam Solarbeam/Swords Dance
Overheat/Brick Break Eruption

[email protected], Nature: Modest: SP.ATK+, ATK-
Ability: Pressure Link doesn't work so I am assuming Deoxys-E by name
Lv.100 HP:360 SP.ATK:240 ATTACK:180
SP.DEF:210 DEFENCE:190 SPEED:400
Psycho Boost
Calm Mind T/Bolt or Superpower
Ice Beam
Thunder Bolt/Recover/Fire Punch/Spikes
Finally you learned from myself and the others here. You have a standard set for Kyogre, an acceptable Rayquaza set, AND an OK set for Deoxys.
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Finally you learned from myself and the others here. You have a standard set for Kyogre, an acceptable Rayquaza set, AND an OK set for Deoxys.
For Kyorge to be standard he has to have Surf not Hydro Pump.

Why did you suggest Solarbeam on Groudon. This proves that no matter how much your argue against it you are a nub.
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Why did you suggest Solarbeam on Groudon. This proves that no matter how much your argue against it you are a nub.
...?? How stupid are YOU?? Drought gives an instant Sunny Day, so no waiting for Solarbeam. How is that NOT good, noob!!???
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...?? How stupid are YOU?? Drought gives an instant Sunny Day, so no waiting for Solarbeam. How is that NOT good, noob!!???
Because Groudon with Solar Beam fails. You could use it on Kyogre, yea. But truth be told, Calm Mind stops that cold, and SD + EQ would've done a better job anyway.

Plus there's the fact that Groudon's SAtk is significantly lower than its Attack, which you would benefit more to take advantage of.

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Because Groudon with Solar Beam fails. You could use it on Kyogre, yea. But truth be told, Calm Mind stops that cold, and SD + EQ would've done a better job anyway.

Plus there's the fact that Groudon's SAtk is significantly lower than its Attack, which you would benefit more to take advantage of.

noob
Normal attack's covered already with Earthquake & Rock Slide. Its sp.atk isn't that much lower (it isn't with mone, anyway), and you need a strong special attack for normal-defense walls, anyway...

And you're not the one that I called a noob...
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Normal attack's covered already with Earthquake & Rock Slide. Its sp.atk isn't that much lower (it isn't with mone, anyway), and you need a strong special attack for normal-defense walls, anyway...

And you're not the one that I called a noob...
It's low enough to count against it in the Uber Metagame.

And I said noob because it was one of those cheap sarcastic remarks.
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fahk ubers,Ya i use to use ubers(when i was a little kid)till i learned that are not the be all to end all.They can be killed with a skillfully made simple team.If you cant build a good team useing Non-uber pokemon,give up nub you suck at playing this game.
(Do not edit this again aragornbird,i dont care if your a mod.)
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You can use SB on Groudon in-game with some success, but against a human you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. You take advantage of Drought by building your team around it. For example, Venusaur with Solar Beam or a Fire-type with pumped up Fire attacks.
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hey aragorn, off-topic, but I put in a good word for you as a mod.
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...?? How stupid are YOU?? Drought gives an instant Sunny Day, so no waiting for Solarbeam. How is that NOT good, noob!!???
It's physical attacks will do much more to help it than any special attacks it can learn. Plus Groudon can already OHKO Kyorge with an CB EQ and if SD'd gives you +2 then it can obviousy OKHO it too.

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I knew this was comming due to the fact that he is the most patient out of all the vets here towards nubs.
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OMG!!! Aragornbird is a mod!!! Congrats!!!!

ANy ways... IMO putting a solarbeamer in after a groudon weather change isnt a good idea because.. If the opponents poke has a fire attack then u are royally screwed... And if the opponent has a kyogre and the opponent predicts this combo, he can bring out kyorgre after groudon is brought out the change the weather... Then your stuck with a slow grass type that has to charge 2 turns to kill kyogre and will die with one ice beam. Groudon is meant for killing not for setting up, just look at his attack stat!
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Actually, I was just giving examples of Pokes you could include with Groudon, not necessarily a strategy of what to bring in after Drought is set up. I totally agree with your point, but there are other Pokes that learn SB that aren't necessarliy slow Grass-types.

BTW - Congrats to aragorn! Thanks for being so patient with us nubs.
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But most the good SBers are the ones with chlorophyll, such as shiftry and eggxecutor... But lol, your rite
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aragornbird... A MOD?? since when?? well, congratulations!!


Tory, I'm glad that you took the guys' advice ^^ I wouldn't be able to rate your team in a barely decent way, but it looks a lot better since you took away all that gentle natures and switched them for ones that are more suitable... yay for you!!! ^^

and just ignore the people who comes to insult, take all the constructive critics and apply them!!

whoa, lots of legendaries... my head's spinning... Maybe it's because I've never used Gameshark in my life XD


***edit: OMG, I didn't notice he was banned!! anyway, Ill just leave my post O____o just in case he can read it...
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