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Old March 27th, 2006 (10:42 AM).
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Blaziken(lvl 80)

Flamethrower
Fire Blast
Sky Uppercut
Earthquake

Swampert(lvl 67)

Earthquake
Surf
Blizzard
Ice Beam

Kyogre(lvl 100)

Surf
Ice Beam
Hydro Pump
Thunder

Charizard(lvl 79)

Blast Burn
Fire Blast
Fly
Flamthrower

Blastoise(lvl 81)

Hydro Pump
Surf
Water Pulse
Ice Beam

Mewtwo(lvl 81)

Swift
Recover
Thunder
Psychic

that's my team,i know it stinks but oh well. could any1 tell me how to make it better?

Austin
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Old March 27th, 2006 (10:46 AM).
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You should get rid of 'Swift' for Mewtwo. Teach it Safegaurd. Get rid of 'Water pulse' fer Blastoise. Teach it Hydro Cannon. And thats abt all i can say fer this team.
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Old March 27th, 2006 (10:48 AM).
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You should get rid of 'Swift' for Mewtwo. Teach it Safegaurd. Get rid of 'Water pulse' fer Blastoise. Teach it Hydro Cannon. And thats abt all i can say fer this team.
thx again for the help that you have given me
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Old March 27th, 2006 (10:56 AM).
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Blaziken(lvl 80)

Flamethrower/Fire Blast
Swords Dance
Sky Uppercut
Rock Slide

Never use two of the same offensive moves of the same type. Rock Slide > Earthquake so Flying types don't completely Screw You.

Swampert(lvl 67)

Earthquake
Surf
Curse/Protect
Ice Beam

Not only shouldn'tBlizzard be used along with Ice Beam, it just shouldn't be used at all outside of RBY and Delibird.

Kyogre(lvl 100)

Surf
Ice Beam
Calm Mind
Thunder

Once again, never two of the same type offensive moves

Charizard(lvl 79)

Swords Dance / Dragon Dance / Belly Drum
Fire Blast / Flamethrower
Fly / Aerial Ace
Earthquake

Wow, 3 this time. Never use Blast Burn or Hyper Beam moves. I understand your in-game need for Fly, but that move doesn't work well competitively so...

Blastoise(lvl 81)

Rapid Spin / Toxic / Roar / Counter / Mirror Coat
Rapid Spin / Toxic / Roar / Counter / Mirror Coat
Surf
Ice Beam

My god, you're prone to repeating the same mistake aren't ya?

Mewtwo(lvl 81)

Calm Mind
Recover
Thunderbolt / Flamethrower / Ice Beam
Psychic

I like Flamethrower

that's my team,i know it stinks but oh well. could any1 tell me how to make it better?

Austin

following the changes in bold will help you get started. I can tell you automaticall that Charizard and Blaziken on the same team is harmful as, for one thing, Fire types are just about the easiest things to kill, meaning you don't need two on the same team. Secondly, Kyogre's Drizzle screws with Flamethrower and Fire Blast, so you're at a bit of a loss there. Another things is you have 3 water types there. 2 are ok, as long as we're talking a Water type and Swampert or one water type and Gyarados/Pelipper, as that keeps your type coverage in balance. Other than that, you just need to find a couple of things that are bit more defensive.


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You should get rid of 'Swift' for Mewtwo. Teach it Safegaurd. Get rid of 'Water pulse' fer Blastoise. Teach it Hydro Cannon. And thats abt all i can say fer this team.
Safeguard has no use on Mewtwo. Kudos for advising to get rid of Water Pulse, but Hydro Cannon plain out sucks.
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Old March 27th, 2006 (3:18 PM).
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Synchronize did his typical great job of fixing the movesets of your current team. What I would suggest is making a few changes to the Pokes that are on it. As Synch said so well, three Water types are pretty redundant, and TWO Fire types (let alone one) on a Kyogre team is also counter-productive. What you really are missing is a strong Electric type that can take advantage of Kyogre's Drizzle ability. Zapdos, Jolteon, or Magneton are just begging to be added to your team. Adding a strong Fighting type would be very beneficial as well, someone like Heracross/Hariyama/Medicham/Machamp. If this is in-game, Medicham rips through the E4 pretty easily. Lastly, I would suggest a Steel type. Skarmory, Metagross, or even Registeel.

So, make some changes to your team and then we can help you with movesets/Abilities/Natures/EVs to make your team even better.
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Old March 28th, 2006 (6:05 AM).
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Synchronize did his typical great job of fixing the movesets of your current team. What I would suggest is making a few changes to the Pokes that are on it. As Synch said so well, three Water types are pretty redundant, and TWO Fire types (let alone one) on a Kyogre team is also counter-productive. What you really are missing is a strong Electric type that can take advantage of Kyogre's Drizzle ability. Zapdos, Jolteon, or Magneton are just begging to be added to your team. Adding a strong Fighting type would be very beneficial as well, someone like Heracross/Hariyama/Medicham/Machamp. If this is in-game, Medicham rips through the E4 pretty easily. Lastly, I would suggest a Steel type. Skarmory, Metagross, or even Registeel.

So, make some changes to your team and then we can help you with movesets/Abilities/Natures/EVs to make your team even better.
thx very much, I have a metagross but it is very weak and has crappy moves. I have a zapdos thats pretty good though. My blaziken is a fire/fighting so i guess with kyogre's drizzle it would screw it up, so i either have to pick something else or get rid of kyogre. thx again

Austin
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Old March 28th, 2006 (6:21 AM).
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thx very much, I have a metagross but it is very weak and has crappy moves. I have a zapdos thats pretty good though. My blaziken is a fire/fighting so i guess with kyogre's drizzle it would screw it up, so i either have to pick something else or get rid of kyogre. thx again

Austin
If your Metagross is weak then breed it with a Ditto and get one that isn't. If it has a crappy moveset, give it a good one. Kyogre definitely screws up Blaziken, making it just an average Fighting-type with more weaknesses. Go with Heracross or Medicham. Personally, I would suggest getting rid of Kyogre and Mewtwo. Ubers like that are cheap and don't require much strategy. Gyarados and Metagross/Alakazam are good alternatives.
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Old March 28th, 2006 (6:25 AM).
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If your Metagross is weak then breed it with a Ditto and get one that isn't. If it has a crappy moveset, give it a good one. Kyogre definitely screws up Blaziken, making it just an average Fighting-type with more weaknesses. Go with Heracross or Medicham. Personally, I would suggest getting rid of Kyogre and Mewtwo. Ubers like that are cheap and don't require much strategy. Gyarados and Metagross/Alakazam are good alternatives.
What would be the best team in your opinion?
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Old March 28th, 2006 (6:38 AM). Edited March 28th, 2006 by shanecdavis.
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The best team, in my opinion, consists of two physical attackers, two special attackers (or a mixed would work), a special wall, a physical wall, and a cleric/utility.

Physical attackers:
Aerodactyl
Snorlax
Dragonite
Tyranitar
Salamence
Heracross
Metagross
Crobat
Swampert
Charizard

Special attackers:
Gyarados
Alakazam
Gengar
Espeon
Magneton
Charizard
Salamence
Metagross

You will notice that some Pokes can be both physical and special attackers, called mixed attackers/sweepers.

Physical wall:
Skarmory
Umbreon
Forretress
Dusclops

Special wall:
Blissey
Snorlax
Dusclops
Milotic

Cleric/Utility:
Blissey
Miltank
Umbreon
Jolteon
Ninjask

Cleric and Utility Pokes are able to heal status effects for your whole team (i.e. Heal Bell) and even pass on their stats to another Poke (i.e. Baton Pass)

BTW - These are just a few examples and your choices should not be limited by them. Choose the Pokes YOU would want to use (feel free to ask questions whether a certain Poke would be good as a special attacker, etc.) and then we can offer suggestions to help make your team better.
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Old March 28th, 2006 (6:44 AM).
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The best team, in my opinion, consists of two physical attackers, two special attackers (or a mixed would work), a special wall, a physical wall, and a cleric/utility.

Physical attackers:
Aerodactyl
Snorlax
Dragonite
Tyranitar
Salamence
Heracross
Metagross
Crobat
Swampert
Charizard

Special attackers:
Gyarados
Alakazam
Gengar
Espeon
Magneton
Charizard
Salamence
Metagross

You will notice that some Pokes can be both physical and special attackers, called mixed attackers/sweepers.

Physical wall:
Skarmory
Umbreon
Forretress
Dusclops

Special wall:
Blissey
Snorlax
Dusclops
Milotic

Cleric/Utility:
Blissey
Miltank
Umbreon
Jolteon
Ninjask

Cleric and Utility Pokes are able to heal status effects for your whole team (i.e. Heal Bell) and even pass on their stats to another Poke (i.e. Baton Pass)
thx very much, but if you were going to build a 6 pokemon team out these what would it be? O and what are walls? Cause i think im going to need to start over after joing this forum because i realize how crappy my team is.

Austin
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Old March 28th, 2006 (7:20 AM).
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The best team, in my opinion, consists of two physical attackers, two special attackers (or a mixed would work), a special wall, a physical wall, and a cleric/utility.

Physical attackers:
Aerodactyl
Snorlax
Dragonite
Tyranitar
Salamence
Heracross
Metagross
Crobat
Swampert
Charizard

Special attackers:
Gyarados
Alakazam
Gengar
Espeon
Magneton
Charizard
Salamence
Metagross

You will notice that some Pokes can be both physical and special attackers, called mixed attackers/sweepers.

Physical wall:
Skarmory
Umbreon
Forretress
Dusclops

Special wall:
Blissey
Snorlax
Dusclops
Milotic

Cleric/Utility:
Blissey
Miltank
Umbreon
Jolteon
Ninjask

Cleric and Utility Pokes are able to heal status effects for your whole team (i.e. Heal Bell) and even pass on their stats to another Poke (i.e. Baton Pass)

BTW - These are just a few examples and your choices should not be limited by them. Choose the Pokes YOU would want to use (feel free to ask questions whether a certain Poke would be good as a special attacker, etc.) and then we can offer suggestions to help make your team better.
well i still don't understand the wall thing. and i don't know how to get a blissey which i want,i don't know where to catch a skarmory,or how to get a herracross which are pokemon i want to use on my team. i want to use my blaziken really bad but i can't really think of a good way to use him. btw-blaziken is my favorite pokemon

Austin
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Old March 28th, 2006 (7:35 AM).
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Blissy you hav to trade from LG/FR, Skymory u catch in the grass east of Fallabor and Heracross u catch in the SafariZone behind the sandslope u hav to go up with the Mach bike. I have a party of 9 pokemon, that i all use:

Blaziken 100

Blaze kick
Return
Sky Uppercut
Flamethrower

Latios 100

Ice Beam
Psycich
Recover
Luster Purge (still to change)

Manectric 100

Thunderbolt
Spark (still to change)
Return
Roar (still to change)

Xatu 100

Fly
Psycich
Giga Drain
Return

Kingdra 100

Hydro Pump
Blizzard
Surf
Return

Flygon 100

Solorbeam
Dragon Claw
Return
Fire Blast

Tyranitar 100

Earthquake
Rock Slide
Flamethrower
Crunch

Dragonite 74

Arial Ace
Dragon Dance
Outrage (Maybe still to change)
Safeguard (Maybe still to change)

Ludicolo 40

Rain Dance (raindish ability)
Leech Seed
Toxic
Dive (hehe First class annoyer)

Ludicolo and Dragonite still in training and a Scizor still to come =P i know some of my movesets really stink but i think its a pretty good party =)
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Old March 28th, 2006 (2:13 PM).
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Hey pokemon prof... I wouldnt say that Umbreon is a physical wall and not a special one... It can effectively wall both physical and special. Moreso special as it has a higher base Sp.Def and no special weaknesses (along with 2 physicals) Of course charmbreon fixes that but Umby has many options that include a mixed wall
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Old March 28th, 2006 (6:15 PM).
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Hey pokemon prof... I wouldnt say that Umbreon is a physical wall and not a special one... It can effectively wall both physical and special. Moreso special as it has a higher base Sp.Def and no special weaknesses (along with 2 physicals) Of course charmbreon fixes that but Umby has many options that include a mixed wall
I believe its Base Def is higher than its Base SDef, and I show know. Look at my Avatar, custom title, past avatars, and past battle logs.

But yes, it can wall effectively in both areas

As for shane's analysis of a good team, that's just his belief, and shouldn't be considered standard (no offense of course). A good team is one that has a good balance of typing, a physical wall, a special wall, a good/decent offensive coverage, ability to cover most common counters (i.e. McGar is there to counter Skarmbliss, but adding oh....say maybe Dusclops to your team may just counter that), and usually a phazer/hazer would do you alot of good. Other common almost essential components are a Rapid Spinner and Cleric, but are by no means completely necessary to a great team. Pretty close to it though.
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I believe its Base Def is higher than its Base SDef, and I show know. Look at my Avatar, custom title, past avatars, and past battle logs.
NUH UH!!!! ITS SP.DEF IS HIGHER!!!! You know i'm right;)
Tsk Tsk synch Im dissapointed:D
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Old March 29th, 2006 (4:13 AM).
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To be honest, Umby was left off of the special wall by me being retarded and forgetting to add it.

Synch, thanks for clarifying what typifies a good team. MUCH better explanation than mine.

BTW - Umby Base Def: 110 and Base SDef: 130. Read into that what you will. LOL
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To be honest, Umby was left off of the special wall by me being retarded and forgetting to add it.

Synch, thanks for clarifying what typifies a good team. MUCH better explanation than mine.

BTW - Umby Base Def: 110 and Base SDef: 130. Read into that what you will. LOL
It's just that I have a wierd way of memorizing the Eeveelution stats once I figured out the pattern/connections. In the process, I often gets stats mixed up.

someone shoot me.
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Blaziken(lvl 80)

Flamethrower
Fire Blast Sword Dance
Sky Uppercut
Earthquake You can try Seismic Toss/Return too

Swampert(lvl 67)

Earthquake
Surf
Blizzard Another physical attack such as Return would help
Ice Beam

Kyogre(lvl 100)

Surf
Ice Beam
Hydro Pump Toxic/Calm Mind
Thunder

Charizard(lvl 79) Horrible, you killed Charizard's moves

Blast Burn Earthquake/Return
Fire Blast Sword Dance
Fly Aeriel Ace
Flamthrower

Blastoise(lvl 81) You killed Blastoise's moveset too!

Hydro Pump Bite/Toxic/Seismic Toss
Surf
Water Pulse Bite/Toxic/Seismic Toss
Ice Beam

Mewtwo(lvl 81)

Swift Toxic/Ice Beam/Flamethrower
Recover
Thunderbolt
Psychic

that's my team,i know it stinks but oh well. could any1 tell me how to make it better?

Austin
Its not too bad. I give it a 6.5. Just keep in mind to give a variety of different types of moves, not just 3 water moves or 3 fire moves.
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