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Old April 1st, 2006 (1:20 PM).
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mostly standard except for tbolt weezing etc
any gaping weakness? having a off day on netbattle bigtime
i want to replace taunt on gyarados, its almost useless. everyone switches something with tbolt in and fires away

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 17 HP / 241 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Taunt

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 237 HP / 115 Atk / 99 Def / 59 SAtk
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Haze
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 50 HP / 199 Atk / 174 Spd / 87 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Taunt

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 129 SAtk / 129 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Reflect
- Thunderbolt
- Wish

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 241 Spd / 17 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 100 HP / 98 Atk / 216 Def / 96 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Leech Seed
- Spore
- Substitute

havnt used this one yet. got it off smogon
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Old April 1st, 2006 (3:36 PM).
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kataphraktoi
mostly standard except for tbolt weezing etc
any gaping weakness? having a off day on netbattle bigtime
i want to replace taunt on gyarados, its almost useless. everyone switches something with tbolt in and fires away

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 44 HP / 240 Atk / 176 Spd / 48 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Taunt

It only needs 176 Spd EVs.

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 136 HP / 96 Atk / 252 Def / 8 Spd / 16 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Haze
- Sludge Bomb
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

Fire Blast is an option over WoW just because Hera and Milo laugh at Weezings WoW. If your going to use FB you'll need to invest a few EVs in Satk. Weezing needs Pain Split.

Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 50 HP / 199 Atk / 174 Spd / 87 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Taunt

Theses are the stats I don't know the EVs off the top of my head, 368 HP, 240 Def, 201 Spd and the rest in attack.

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 129 SAtk / 129 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Reflect
- Thunderbolt
- Wish

I prefer standard Jir over Reflect Jir, but meh. Use more Def.

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 241 Spd / 17 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

Max attack, max speed, 4 HP. Use Jolly if you have Rakiou problems.

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 100 HP / 98 Atk / 216 Def / 96 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Leech Seed
- Spore
- Substitute

Seems good. Maybe a bit more HP.

havnt used this one yet. got it off smogon
Hope this helps.
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Old April 1st, 2006 (4:27 PM). Edited April 1st, 2006 by Kataphraktoi.
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Thanks, yeah.

Breloom pwns. I went with what i have there and it lives a long time.
Im leading with it, atm.

Currently 4 wins, 1 loss with this team.
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Old April 1st, 2006 (4:46 PM).
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IMO your win/loss record depends on who you play. Anyways.... Tauntrados is amazing if u use it at the rite times... You know how fun it is to taunt a scared skarmory or a non attacking umbreon? But your rite as most ppl come in with electrics when they see it. Only OU electric that can counter it is zappy though... as long as u can outspeed jolteon
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Old April 1st, 2006 (5:23 PM).
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a non attacking umbreon? But your rite as most ppl come in with electrics when they see it. Only OU electric that can counter it is zappy though... as long as u can outspeed jolteon
Umby should never have any attacking moves...

It takes 1-3 DDs to out speed Zappy and Jolt depending on which one it is and what kind of Zappy it is iirc. EQ can OHKO Jolt, but you can't OHKO Zappy at least not with the one DD you need to out run it.
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Old April 1st, 2006 (6:28 PM).
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Umby should never have any attacking moves...
My point exactly... thats why tauntrados can stop it. But your right, there are better pokemon than gyrados out there
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Old April 2nd, 2006 (8:02 AM).
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IMO your win/loss record depends on who you play.
Always select your oponent. ;)


Anyway im using blissy instead of gyarados currently.
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Old April 2nd, 2006 (8:11 AM).
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kataphraktoi
mostly standard except for tbolt weezing etc
any gaping weakness? having a off day on netbattle bigtime
i want to replace taunt on gyarados, its almost useless. everyone switches something with tbolt in and fires away

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 17 HP / 241 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance Sword Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock] Rock Slide
- Taunt Toxic/Thunder Wave/Crunch

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 237 HP / 115 Atk / 99 Def / 59 SAtk
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Haze Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 50 HP / 199 Atk / 174 Spd / 87 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Taunt Toxic/Return

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 129 SAtk / 129 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Reflect Toxic
- Thunderbolt
- Wish Recover/Flash/Double Team

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band Bad choice of Pokemon
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 241 Spd / 17 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers Good
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 100 HP / 98 Atk / 216 Def / 96 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Leech Seed
- Spore
- Substitute

havnt used this one yet. got it off smogon
Well, modify some of this. Dugtrio is horrible Pokemon. Try a Fire Pokemon like Charizard.

Charizard

Flamethrower
Aeriel Ace
Earthquake
Sword Dance
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Old April 2nd, 2006 (8:18 AM).
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Swords Dance over Dragon Dance and a Fire Poke instead of Diggy. Wow. Please explain why as that just doesn't make any sense to me at all.
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Old April 2nd, 2006 (8:24 AM).
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CipherDakim, please don’t rate if you do not understand Netbattle play.

Most of the moves you suggested were bad (and Tyranitar can’t even learn Swords Dance). Furthermore, you apparently don’t understand what Dugtrio does otherwise you wouldn’t be replacing it.

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Old April 5th, 2006 (3:29 PM).
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Alright you little "aragornbird"!

First of all, the Bill of Rights has the 1st Amendment freedom of speech. I can express what I shall.

Second of all, stop being Simon Cowell! If you knew how to give "constructive critisism," I would have then I known by now. You don't know what ya talkin' about, so SHUT YA MOUTH!

So if Toxic's what you don't like, fine YA LITTLE BIRD!!! I don't care! LIFE GOES ON even if the moveset might not be something you agree with!
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Old April 5th, 2006 (3:43 PM).
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Alright you little "aragornbird"!

First of all, the Bill of Rights has the 1st Amendment freedom of speech. I can express what I shall.

Second of all, stop being Simon Cowell! If you knew how to give "constructive critisism," I would have then I known by now. You don't know what ya talkin' about, so SHUT YA MOUTH!

So if Toxic's what you don't like, fine YA LITTLE BIRD!!! I don't care! LIFE GOES ON even if the moveset might not be something you agree with!
He was trying to save you from setting urself up from embarassment, which you've unfortunatley already done. He's saying nicely that what you've suggested does not work well in NetBattle play (lol, Flash) and you don't possess the knowledge we've gained through experience, such as Dugtrio is an awesome pokemon used with Choice Band and Arena Trap.
It's not whether or not we agree with the movesets, its whether or not they work well, which we, as experts/advanced players, can prove to be either good or bad. And the ones you've listed are in fact quite bad.
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Old April 5th, 2006 (3:55 PM).
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You don't know what ya talkin' about, so SHUT YA MOUTH!
Notice it says Moderator under his user name and title, that means he can tell you what to do not the other way around.

Oh and also he is right and you are wrong. This could all be easily settled with a battle but I think all of use would know who would win.
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Second of all, stop being Simon Cowell!
First of all SIMON COWELL is the man! He tells it as it is and so does AB so you should listen to him. Plus he is a moderator meaning...

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that means he can tell you what to do not the other way around.
So you know... be careful of what you say, and he was just giving u "constructive criticism"
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Old April 5th, 2006 (10:09 PM).
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Like others have said, I’m a moderator and that means I can issue warnings to people who break the rules (like the one I just gave you for flaming)

As for your constructive criticism, I was kind enough to rate your team in your other thread despite your inflammatory post.

A third thing, please read the note in the bottom of your sig. Your sig is too large and you need to remove some image or text to fit within the sig standards. Look in the signature section of this thread: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=30592 to see what acceptable sizes are.

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Old April 6th, 2006 (9:37 AM).
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Alright you little "aragornbird"!

First of all, the Bill of Rights has the 1st Amendment freedom of speech. I can express what I shall.

Too bad this forum is not under the 1st amendment,and the owners have the RIGHT to restrict what you say-and also moderators. Private property.
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Old April 6th, 2006 (9:47 AM).
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Okay, let’s stop talking about what he did wrong and get back on topic.

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Old April 6th, 2006 (11:11 AM).
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Slight CBMence weak. IMO I'd use Starmie, Swampert, or Cloyster over Breloom.
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Old April 6th, 2006 (12:12 PM). Edited April 6th, 2006 by Kataphraktoi.
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Replace my main man? Last time i saw a CBsalamance i just outguessed him and forced him to switch and then polished him off later in the fight.

Now one thing i do have troubles with is suicune, CM jirachi or not.
 

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