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It would seem that it is all going to end with ho-oh, just as it all started with it.
What is the ho-oh mysteriy? why does he protect ash and why does he follow him around the world, and why does ash allways come into contact with something having to do with ho-oh?

Maybe ash has a speical relationship to it? It could be that the ash era of pokemon will end with a battle with ho-oh or ash having to save the world with ho-oh or against ho-oh.
So we know that ho-oh is the MAIN reason among others to go to hoenn but maybe it was guiding ash to hoenn for something "big"? What do you think"

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Maybe a long long long time ago maybe around 1,000 years ago there were ho-oh all over the world. But then some unseen force or a war with the humans wiped out all but a few of the ho-oh. Ash carries the soul of a ho-oh and that's why he is proteced.
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I'm pretty sure that a Ho-oh can be seen whenever a person of great destiny starts on the road to whatever their destiny may be...it's something like that. I'm too lazy to look at my Silver pokedex though...this is a pretty good approxamation of what the legend is, though...
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    Ahhh... Ho-oh is ash's father! Hahahahahahahaha! Sorry about the joke...
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      Have I ever mentioned how much I adore that theroy X3

      Anyway as for the whole Ash connection with Ho-Oh, it would be nice to see it develop into an unexpected storyline but with Pokmon you know that most probably won't happen XD It's more likely that Ho-Oh is there for a more symbolic reason like Chairman Kaga mentioned about it appearing to someone who's heading towards a great destiny... I mean if I remember it showed up once when Ash started his journey and again when it guided him to Hoenn so it's kinda symbolic saying that Ash is heading for great things in his life.
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        Uh, in case you guys don't know it already, but he IS the chosen Pokmon Trainer!!! Ash is probably the only trainer with his friends who had ever seen the legendaries. (he's the only one who's seen Ho oh) I can only think about 2 other trainers who have seen one of the legendaries. In movie number 2, Slowking did say that Ash is the chosen one to help prevent the world's destruction. In fact, in all of the movies, Ash is somehow involved with them all!
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          I like Dark Absol's theory... LOL!!
          "Ash, I am your father..."
          "Uh... But, you're a Pokemon."
          ".................so?"

          I think it's because he's the 'chosen' one too. ^.^
          How did he get picked? *sniffles* I wanna be the chosen pokemon trainer...
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          Old March 31st, 2004 (11:54 AM).
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            well Ive kinda thought that seeing Ho-Oh ment good luck...and Ash needs all luck he can get!;;;
            but it sure is something speciall about Ho-Oh only appearing to Ash...so I used it in one of my fanfics there Ho-Oh leads Ash and co to its chosen.(Ash is lugias chosen and my main chara is Ho-Ohs chosen.XD)

            But Dark Absols theory is good....it hillarious!

            Hey, what if Ho-Oh is really God (in disguise) and Ash is the Messiah? and Ashs mom is like virging Mary?
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            Old March 31st, 2004 (12:04 PM). Edited March 31st, 2004 by Dark_Absol.
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              So... try to think Delia Ketchum making the "thing" (give the light) with a pokemon... forget, dont think about it...
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                It would seem that it is all going to end with ho-oh, just as it all started with it.
                What is the ho-oh mysteriy? why does he protect ash and why does he follow him around the world, and why does ash allways come into contact with something having to do with ho-oh?

                Maybe ash has a speical relationship to it? It could be that the ash era of pokemon will end with a battle with ho-oh or ash having to save the world with ho-oh or against ho-oh.
                So we know that ho-oh is the MAIN reason among others to go to hoenn but maybe it was guiding ash to hoenn for something "big"? What do you think"

                Here's how I see it.


                Maybe a long long long time ago maybe around 1,000 years ago there were ho-oh all over the world. But then some unseen force or a war with the humans wiped out all but a few of the ho-oh. Ash carries the soul of a ho-oh and that's why he is proteced.
                Your theory makes a bit of sense, on a count that his name is "Ash" and it would make sense for the legendary Fire Bird to protect him (ever noticed that Moltres protected him as well?) maybe it would make sense to say that he has the heart of a pheonix, because both pheonix legendaries seem to have had a role in his journey, or have protected him.
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                Old March 31st, 2004 (9:40 PM). Edited March 31st, 2004 by asher_son_of_ash.
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                  Well...yes...Ho-Oh may be connected towards Ho-Oh because on the first season the put Ho-Oh[ A jotho Pokemon] instead of Moltres. Though Ash could be an decendent(sp?) of a previous Pokemon Champ that fought an armageddon war...Ho-Oh may have helped the Champ and gave him his powers for some powers.

                  And maybe the spirit lives on...[ Gets the narrators voice] 'till this day. Ash Ketchum will fight for something...something dark...Though I think that it may be pure coincidence...And I agree with Blue a bit...maybe Pokemon will end with something to do with Pokemon.
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                    Is it possible that if powers were given for powers, that Ash might actually be able to do special attacks himself, ones that only pokemon could do? Or even might he find out something about Ho-oh that he doesn't like like, and go off the deep end? What if in the transfering of powers, he got the ability to do pokemon attacks, such as Hyper Beam, Fly, Razor Leaf, you know, attacks tha no ordinary person should be able to do. In other words, he'd be a human pokemon! What if he found out about those ablities, and in doing so, destroyed the world? there are a lot of ifs. Ash is very mysterious if you think about it. So is Ho-oh. And don't forget about about Lugia aka Beast of the Sea.

                    The legendary pokemon Ash has come in contact with are:

                    Mewtwo-Created by clonig MEW
                    Mew-Legendary pokemon that helped Ash out in the first movie
                    Moltres-Titan Bird of Fire/ Burning Phoenix
                    Zapdos-Tian Bird of Lightning/Thunder Phoenix
                    Aricuno-Titan Bird of Ice/Freezing Phoenix
                    Lugia- Beast of the Sea/ Sea Guardian of the Whirl Islands
                    Ho-oh-Ash's guide/Reserector of SUICUNE RAIKOU & ENTEI
                    Suicune- Ho-oh's messenger/North Wind
                    Entei-Resurection of Fire from Burnt Tower/Steven Hale in Pokemon 3
                    Celebi-Time Traveler/appears in Pokemon 4 Ever
                    Latios-Not too sure
                    Latias-Not too sure
                    Jirachi-Like the movie says,WISHMAKER!
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                    I think we're overthinking this just a bit

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                    This is a bit of insight into Ho-oh's revealing itself to Ash...but I do believe I heard somewhere it has to do with a trainer of destiny...I think it may have been mentioned in a Johto episode where they were in Ecruteak on their way back from the Whirl Islands...
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                      Oooh, I like FlamingTorchic's theory too. Ash, Moltres, Ho-oh: All Fire stuff. Though, yeah... Ho-oh could be showing up to him like Chairman Kaga says and since it is in the Pokedex.
                      It's also fun to imagine other things though ^.^
                      Besides, that's the Pokedex! Ash is on TV and maybe it's a little different? *shrugs*
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                        About Moltres......remember when Ash got to carry Moltres's torch at the Pkmn League? I've heard that when Ho-oh appeared in the first episode it was supposed to be Moltres but the artist messed up and so the creators of Pokemon thought, "What the heck!" and patched it up by making Ho-oh a real Pokemon.(I don't know if that's true.)
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                          That sounds interesting Pika-mew! I had never heard that about Ho-oh and Moltres thingy on the first episode!

                          I had forgotten about the Moltres torch thingy... another Fire thing. Maybe there is something to it?
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                          The messed-up moltres theory actually sounds pretty plausible...but it's also interesting that they just didn't make Ho-oh in the exact image of the pokemon that Ash saw...it's actually different than Moltres and Ho-oh from the way it looks. That's the only thing that doesn't make sense about Ho-oh being based from the Moltres-ish thing. Also, ever think that that creature is the thing that restored Ash and Pikachu to life in the first episode? Even in the game, the item it carries is sacred ASH...which has the power to keep a pokemon from fainting or revive it or something...(I don't know, I've never used it)
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                            Ho-oh carries that? *Has never caught Ho-oh*
                            Now that makes things interesting! Maybe Ho-oh did help Ash and Pikachu in the first episode. But, if Ho-oh did help Ash then why?
                            Ooh! I love mysteries ^__^
                            I know, it could probably be answered easily or already has, but I'm having fun thinking about it. ^.^

                            So, Ho-oh is said to appear to destined trainers, but Ho-oh may not have only appeared to Ash but helped him too. So, could Ho-oh be watching Ash wherever he goes??

                            *Imagined being stalked by a pokemon. o.o*
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                              It may have to do with the plot of the first episode...Like how Ash gave himself up in front of all those Spearows and Pikachu saved him even though Pikachu hated him at the start, like a morality kind of thing. Or, we could drive it to a further extent... In the first episode Ash stole Misty's bike, and it
                              ended up getting electricuted. Then in the episode where misty leaves at the start the nurse shows up with the fixed bike! So maybe Ho-oh just has to do with the bike...Although that's a crazy theory and it has a 1-in-a-million chance of working..Yeah..
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                                *Shrugs* Maybe! For all I know, Ho-oh might have a Steel cousin or something (If Pokemon have cousins... LOL) and the bike reminds it of it's cousin
                                Or, Ho-oh noticed the electricity hitting the bike, causing it to notice Ash and pikachu, and he thinks Ash can have a good destiny as something with bikes?
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                                  Now that you guys mention it, the bike incident actually seems to connect with Ho-oh! Although I sorta find it hard to believe, Ho-oh both times appeared before or after Ash's Pikachu zaps a bike. (Misty's bike afterwards, May's Bike beforehand) I hope that Ho-oh isn't trying to hook up Ash or anything!
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                                    Y'know. I just had a thought about something.

                                    Possibly, in the last movie [Whenever that is. oo;] Ash meets every Legendary he ever encountered. [Even Mewtwo and Deoxys]

                                    Probably there will be someething in it...
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                                      I think the bike thing is nothing. It is just that pikachu had a troubled childhood with bikes so he destroys them at every chance he gets.
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                                      Actually, the bike destruction is a good excuse to get girl characters to go along with Ash =P
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                                        LOL Well, at least it keeps girl characters on the show!
                                        But, maybe Ho-oh does have something with bikes.. or girls. ^__^

                                        That would be cool if in some future movie Ash gets to see all the Legendaries he's seen so far! ^___^
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                                        If they did that, I wouldn't be surprise if it was just the movie equivalant of a clip show where there's 5 minutes of new footage and two hours of old footage...Ash'll be in a coma hovering between life and death and all of a sudden he'll just remember 20 random minutes of each past movie...then at the end he'll die for a minute and a Dunsparce will bring him back to life with its tears or something (but not without showing the revival of Ash from the first movie )
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