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Old April 5th, 2006 (11:03 PM). Edited April 6th, 2006 by BonzaiMudkip.
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Zapdos lv100
Bashful Nature
Moves:
thunderbolt
drill peck
light screen
charge

Dragonite(f) lv100
Quiet Nature
Moves:
Dragon Claw
fly
ice beam
thunderbolt

Mewtwo lv100
Adamant Nature
Moves:
psychic
recover
shadow ball
flamethrower

Ho-Oh lv100
Hasty Nature
Moves:
recover
thunder
psychic
sacred fire

Lugia lv100
Brave Nature
Moves:
recover
shadow ball
psychic
aeroblast

Deoxys(LG) lv100
Rash Nature
Moves:
mirror coat
recover
psychic
counter

Any hints for my moveset?
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Old April 6th, 2006 (1:18 AM).
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Right off the bat I will suggest you NEVER use attacks of the same type (i.e. TB and Charge on Zapdos). That really limits your Pokes versatility. Second, NEVER use two turn moves (i.e. Fly or Hyper Beam) since a little weaker one turn move (i.e. Aerial Ace) can attack twice and deal more damage than your two turn move could, not to mention the fact that with Fly your opponent can switch in something to resist it.

Anyways, fixes in bold:

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Originally Posted by BonzaiMudkip
Zapdos lv100

Moves:
thunderbolt
drill peck/Sleep Talk
Rest
Hidden Power [Grass]

With its speed, give Zap a move that your opponent might not expect (depending on how skilled they are). Also use Rest over Light Screen, and maybe Sleep Talk over Drill Peck, depending on preference.


Dragonite(f) lv100
Moves:
Substitute
Focus Punch

ice beam
thunderbolt

Even though Dragonite has the capacity to be a great special sweeper, keep in mind that its Base SAtk is only 100 while its Base Atk is a whopping 134. Dragonite is begging to be a SubPunchingBoltBeaming mixed sweeper.

Mewtwo lv100
Moves:
psychic
recover
Calm Mind
flamethrower

Shadow Ball on Mewtwo is okay, but Calm Mind is just better since it can make this ridiculously high SAtk uber into an even more ridiculous one.

Ho-Oh lv100

Moves:
recover
Thunderbolt
Earthquake
sacred fire

I am not a big fan of Fire-types, but whatcanyoudo, eh? Please don't use Psychic on any non-Psychics. Go with EQ instead and take advantage of that high Base Atk. Also use the 100% accurate TB over the 70% accurate Thunder.

Lugia lv100

Moves:
recover
Ice Beam
Calm Mind
Whirlwind

This is Pyro's moveset (at least that is where I got it) and it is wicked awesome. Its Base defenses are just sick, so it makes sense to make this a wall, especially when battling against other ubers. A lot of ubers are weak to IB and you can WW away those that aren't and hopefully drag out one that is.


Deoxys(LG) lv100

Moves:
mirror coat
recover
psychic
counter

I have never used Deoxys, let alone the LG version. Better defenses than Lugia, but weaker attacks and speed and horrifically low HP. Shuckle on roids. I would suggest Celebi instead:

Celebi Lv100

Moves:
Heal Bell
Leech Seed
Recover
Psychic/Calm Mind


Any hints for my moveset?
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Old April 6th, 2006 (1:30 AM).
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Hhm, let's see...

What about natures, first of all? And EVs? Oh well, I'm assuming this is in-game...

Zapdos - since this is in-game, I doubt you'll have HP Ice or Grass. If you can get the Zapdos from XD, give it Metal Sound. For your current Zapdos, lose Charge and get Thunder Wave (Emerald Move Tutor).

Dragonite - Fly makes me cry. Special Dragonite is ok, but he can do so much more...

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EV: Sp Att, Def/Sp Def
Nature: + Sp Att, - Speed
Dragon Claw/Focus Punch
Substitute
Ice Beam/Flamethrower/Thunderbolt
Ice Beam/Flamethrower/Thunderbolt

There's a whole world of things Dragonite can do. Flame Claw hurts everything for neutral damage at least, or you can sub-Punch Bolt Beam, which hurts everything except Shedinja. Or, if you like, you can Dragon Dance.

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EV: Att, Speed, minor Def/Sp Def
Nature: + Att, - Sp Att
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Double Edge/Return/Flamethower/Fire Blast

Salamence does this better, but it still can work for Dragonite. Fire moves say hi to the physical walls that will slow you down (Skarmory, Forretress).

Mewtwo - well, meh. I'd rather stick a couple of elemental moves to benefit that monster Sp Att. Go with Ice Beam, it works in uber battles against everything, and Thunder for Kyogre. It's gonna do far more damage than Shadow Ball, that's for sure. I'd also lose Recover as well for this set. EVs in Speed (although max isn't completely necessary, unless you want to tie with other Mewtwos) and Sp Att.

Ho-oh - meh again. Psychic isn't nearly as great for a non-psychic type. Sacred Fire is ok. I'd also give Ho-oh a physical attack as well to surprise low defence ubers like Mewtwo. Either way, Kyogre says hi. (although you did give Ho-oh Thunder which is a surprise). Wallop some EV into Sp Def as well as your attack stats.

Lugia - meh times three. Aeroblast ok, consider Whirlwind over Shadow Ball if you're playing with Deoxys-LG. (although most ubers are psychic types, so Shadow Ball can be a nice surprise). Spikes is godly in ubers, especially since lots of teams like using Shedinja. EV in Sp Def, Def and Sp Att.

Deoxys LG - since most ubers use special-based moves, Mirror Coat can be a nice surprise. However, you will need the Sp Def, so I'd advise against using MC. Actually this needs a big rework:

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EV: Def/Sp Def/HP
Nature: + Sp Def, - Att
Night Shade/Seismic Toss
Spikes
Recover
Toxic

Toxistall variety. I'm not completely up on the uber metagame, but most don't expect Toxic, especially as an alternative to someone expecting Spikes.
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Old April 6th, 2006 (6:00 PM).
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By the looks of it I think its ingame, but meh you if not use toothache's template.
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Old April 8th, 2006 (9:00 AM).
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Some fixes of my own on top of yours.

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Originally Posted by shanecdavis
Ho-Oh lv100

Moves:
recover
Thunderbolt
Earthquake
sacred fire

More like Shadowball over T-bolt.

I am not a big fan of Fire-types, but whatcanyoudo, eh? Please don't use Psychic on any non-Psychics. Go with EQ instead and take advantage of that high Base Atk. Also use the 100% accurate TB over the 70% accurate Thunder.

Lugia lv100

Moves:
recover
Ice Beam
Calm Mind
Whirlwind

More like mine because he read my mind and stole it.

This is Pyro's moveset (at least that is where I got it) and it is wicked awesome. Its Base defenses are just sick, so it makes sense to make this a wall, especially when battling against other ubers. A lot of ubers are weak to IB and you can WW away those that aren't and hopefully drag out one that is.

Celebi Lv100

Moves:
Heal Bell
Leech Seed
Recover
Psychic/Calm Mind

Non attacking Celebi can work but use:

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-Heal Bell / Leech Seed / Baton Pass
-Psychic
-Recover
-Calm Mind

He will have to decide if he wants a cleric or not.
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Old April 10th, 2006 (12:21 PM).
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Hey Mullet, thanks for the rate of my rate. It certainly is nice to see where I can improve and helps me iron out my own deficiencies so I can prevent from giving bad advice to someone else.

Now, if BM chose not to include a cleric on team, would you go with Tooth's Deoxys suggestion or maybe something else?
 

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