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Old April 7th, 2006 (8:59 AM).
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This is my favorite team ATM. Some problems though, I'm bad with the EV's so you might wanna look at that. Thank you


Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 252 Spd / 76 SAtk / 56 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I like Zappy but I hate XD mods, too much of a bother. I decided to try this as an alternate cause Jolt is wierd. I use one calm mind and then almost ALL Sp.Atks are useless cause it takes more than one to break the wonderful sub!!!! GO RAIKOU

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Duh, How do u make a team without it=D

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 140 HP / 160 Atk / 60 Def / 148 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Rest
- Shadow Ball

Duh again, I hate BLISSEY!! So snor is a must

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 244 HP / 48 Atk / 192 Def / 8 Spd / 16 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

.....meh.....

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Atk / 52 Def / 52 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

My Pokermon special guy. Comes in on salamence as a HUGE BLUFF ice beam. Call my Bluff? I doubt it. Bam subpunch in your face. Has the capability to own all unsuspecting trainers. I love the Bluff!

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 200 Def / 96 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Meyb Milo and Swamp is kinda redundant. But meh, I need it to actually counter the sala. I love this team!!!!
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Old April 7th, 2006 (1:41 PM).
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This is my favorite team ATM. Some problems though, I'm bad with the EV's so you might wanna look at that. Thank you


Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 252 Spd / 76 SAtk / 56 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Timid please. Modest Raikou can't outrun Adamant Dugtrio. On a Timid one, you only need 176 EVs in speed to outrun it.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Of course.
Sleep Talk might be handy somewhere since this team could use a sleep absorber.


Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 140 HP / 160 Atk / 60 Def / 148 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Rest
- Shadow Ball

Meh, I usually like Earthquake better, but seeing as how Swampert takes care of Metagross/Tyranitar, keep Shadow Ball.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 244 HP / 48 Atk / 192 Def / 8 Spd / 16 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

Max HP always. It does not need Special Defense EVs at all since it can still survive 2 or more STAB Surfs from things like Milotic and Swampert, and it would be foolish to keep it in on stronger special sweepers.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Atk / 52 Def / 52 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

I would like to see Hidden Power Bug over Protect to surprise Celebis that switch in.


Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 200 Def / 96 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

It works to complement Swampert, despite being a bulky water as well.


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Old April 7th, 2006 (1:44 PM).
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I want to put HP [Bug] but its protect that gives me another chance to sub and block metaplosion that happens when swamp comes in... Fixed Raikou and replaced facade. Thanks
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Old April 7th, 2006 (4:25 PM).
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This is my favorite team ATM. Some problems though, I'm bad with the EV's so you might wanna look at that. Thank you


Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 252 Spd / 76 SAtk / 56 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I like Zappy but I hate XD mods, too much of a bother. I decided to try this as an alternate cause Jolt is wierd. I use one calm mind and then almost ALL Sp.Atks are useless cause it takes more than one to break the wonderful sub!!!! GO RAIKOU
Timid plz.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Duh, How do u make a team without it=D
Might want to try Sleep talk over Focus punch, and BB over facade.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 140 HP / 160 Atk / 60 Def / 148 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Rest
- Shadow Ball

Duh again, I hate BLISSEY!! So snor is a must
Meh its not a must, but I use it in most of my teams, its pretty handy.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 244 HP / 48 Atk / 192 Def / 8 Spd / 16 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

.....meh.....
No sp.def, more hp, and maybe more def.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Atk / 52 Def / 52 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

My Pokermon special guy. Comes in on salamence as a HUGE BLUFF ice beam. Call my Bluff? I doubt it. Bam subpunch in your face. Has the capability to own all unsuspecting trainers. I love the Bluff!
Never seen this set, looks pretty good :)

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 200 Def / 96 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Meyb Milo and Swamp is kinda redundant. But meh, I need it to actually counter the sala. I love this team!!!!
sure.
Pretty solid team, no real threats. :D
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Old April 8th, 2006 (4:22 AM).
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Slight CBMence weak, especially if Sala is paired with Maggie. I dont think those EVs on Milo will let it survive two CBSala HP Flyings long enough to Ice Beam it. Needs more Rapid Spin IMO.
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Old April 8th, 2006 (4:59 AM). Edited April 8th, 2006 by Fr0st.
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I have never seen anyone use a CBmence but i'm gonna fix the EV's. I used to have Forry on this team but not anymore because Skarm isn't effected by earthquake. I wanna try CBmence now, I'm gonna request a team
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Old April 8th, 2006 (8:32 AM).
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Fixes in bold.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ice_blade
This is my favorite team ATM. Some problems though, I'm bad with the EV's so you might wanna look at that. Thank you


Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 252 Spd / 76 SAtk / 56 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Timid to outrun Adamant Duggy, go with aragorn's suggestions for EVs. Watch out for those Timid Duggys though, they are uncommon but own Raikou.

I like Zappy but I hate XD mods, too much of a bother. I decided to try this as an alternate cause Jolt is wierd. I use one calm mind and then almost ALL Sp.Atks are useless cause it takes more than one to break the wonderful sub!!!! GO RAIKOU

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Sleep Talk
- Focus Punch Brick Break
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

I'd rather have Sleep Talk for Guts abuse. Switching into Milo and taking that Hypnosis helps the Rest of the team because that is the only thing they can put to Sleep. I like BB over FP because if you use that while sleeping it really sucks.

Duh, How do u make a team without it=D

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 160 HP / 72 Atk / 136 Def / 140 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Rest
- Shadow Ball

Those EVs work well.

Duh again, I hate BLISSEY!! So snor is a must

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Atk / 196 Def / 16 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

Use those EVs. I like WW because I would hate for my OU team to get owned by a BP team because Nr. Mime is cool, never happened to me but meh. Aragorn knows my BP team is really awesome.

.....meh.....

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Atk / 52 Def / 52 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

Don't know about this thing I guess it might work. I'd rather just go with standard Curselax but meh.

My Pokermon special guy. Comes in on salamence as a HUGE BLUFF ice beam. Call my Bluff? I doubt it. Bam subpunch in your face. Has the capability to own all unsuspecting trainers. I love the Bluff!

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 172 Def / 68 SAtk / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Use those EVs.

Meyb Milo and Swamp is kinda redundant. But meh, I need it to actually counter the sala. I love this team!!!!
Hope this helps.
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Old April 8th, 2006 (1:19 PM).
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I replaced Rai with CBmence as Evryone uses Rai and its too easy and stuff. Did that open any weaknesses?

New Milo moveset
Milotic (M) @ Leftovers ** ImHot
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf


Takes full advantage of marvel scale
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Old April 8th, 2006 (2:03 PM).
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More like Mullet's ev's imo.
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Old April 8th, 2006 (2:32 PM).
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I replaced Rai with CBmence as Evryone uses Rai and its too easy and stuff. Did that open any weaknesses?

New Milo moveset
Milotic (M) @ Leftovers ** ImHot
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf


Takes full advantage of marvel scale
One Raikou is low-mid OU so barely anyone uses him.

Yes I agree with Jc, use my EVs for Milo.
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Old April 10th, 2006 (11:18 AM).
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Raikou's probably something like UU-BL now percentage-wise, it's gotten severely shafted by Zapdos.
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Old April 11th, 2006 (8:56 AM).
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Raikou's probably something like UU-BL now percentage-wise, it's gotten severely shafted by Zapdos.
Low OU is a better word. He will never be allowed on UU so never even think like that. He would rape the UU Metagame.
 

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