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Old April 8th, 2006 (6:38 PM).
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Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 80 Def / 144 Spd / 44 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Atk / 76 Def / 76 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Sleep Talk

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Atk / 204 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Protect
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 28 Spd / 28 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide


I've spotted out various weaknesses, but I'm always up for more input. Any suggestions on substitutions/changes would be helpful.
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Old April 9th, 2006 (8:14 AM).
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Bold.

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Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

Okay.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 80 Def / 144 Spd / 44 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Ye ol' Cleric standard.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Atk / 76 Def / 76 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Sleep Talk

Your 252 HP Lax. If it helps you sleep at night...

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Atk / 204 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Protect
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

Standard.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 28 Spd / 28 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Oh my.

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

You only need Jolly if you have Raikou problems. Raikou is only like low-mid OU, you shouldn't see it much.


I've spotted out various weaknesses, but I'm always up for more input. Any suggestions on substitutions/changes would be helpful.
Hope this helps.
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Old April 9th, 2006 (10:23 AM).
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I swear raikou is OU now.. I've seen more teams with it than without it this week!!
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Old April 9th, 2006 (10:53 AM).
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I swear raikou is OU now.. I've seen more teams with it than without it this week!!
I have not seen one Raikou in months. No one uses it on Smogon or Pokerealm.
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Old April 9th, 2006 (12:35 PM).
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I use Jolly Duggie because of a lame run-in with Zam.
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I use Jolly Duggie because of a lame run-in with Zam.
Zam is extreamly low OU. I haven't seen one on a good players tema in ages.
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Tieing in speed with Zam is foolish since you only have a 50% chance of going first. In fact, tieing in speed with any Pokemon that can OKO you is a bad idea.

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Old April 10th, 2006 (9:14 AM).
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Tieing in speed with Zam is foolish since you only have a 50% chance of going first. In fact, tieing in speed with any Pokemon that can OKO you is a bad idea.

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Indeed, but it was a trickband Zam that made me mad, so i just changed it =/
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Old April 10th, 2006 (9:34 AM).
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Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp Shadow Ball/Explosion

Why WoW? Gengar can't use it effectively, better suited for Clops.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 80 Def / 144 Spd / 44 SAtk 236 HP/100 DEF/124 SPD/44 SA
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Good. Needs a bit more DEF though.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Atk / 76 Def / 76 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Sleep Talk

I prefer my own lax more, but mine works best with trap-passing. Never tried this

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Atk / 204 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Protect
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

OK. Prefer 252 HP/158 DEF/100 ATK spread

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 28 Spd / 28 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar I/Beam
- Surf

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band Leftovers
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) Adamant (ATK+/SA-)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide


I've spotted out various weaknesses, but I'm always up for more input. Any suggestions on substitutions/changes would be helpful.
I never use a CB, because it hurts my battle style too much. I like having attacking flexibility, and Duggy's ATK is high enough already. Also, it has the ability to lock in stuff without Mean Look.
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Old April 10th, 2006 (9:54 AM).
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Duggie's Atk is a base 80 Atker, and that's not all that high. FFS, that's lower than Hitmontop and Steelix. That's why we CB Duggie; because of its high speed and DECENT attack stat. Seriously, with a standard sweeper EV spread, and CB, it barely KOs Zangoose when it has Jolly nature. And when using HP Bug, it does only 60-70% WITH Choice Band. Imagine what Celebi can now do to it without CB.
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Old April 10th, 2006 (11:43 AM).
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Okay fixes for e4's rate.

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Why WoW? Gengar can't use it effectively, better suited for Clops.
Dude WoW gar can stop stuff that hurts it or others on a team like CB Metagross and CB Aero.

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Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
236 HP/100 DEF/124 SPD/44 SA
Celebi NEEDS 401 HP for the most part and needs Speed to out run Mence.

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I prefer my own lax more, but mine works best with trap-passing. Never tried this
You can't really say that you prefer youro own Lax, you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover. You have never tried this so you really can't say that you prefer yours more. I've heard of this guy doing some cool stuff. Next time I use Stalkerlax I'm going to try this one.

If your talking about that Powerlax crap then you have no room to talk.


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Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 28 Spd / 28 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- I/Beam
- Surf
Are you crazy? This is his only phazer.

Quote:
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Dugtrio (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) Adamant (ATK+/SA-)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide
Leftovers on Duggy is poor as he can't take a hit either way so he won't get a chance to use the Lefties. Plus Duggy needs CB too be good, if it wasn't for CB then Duggy would be pretty useless.

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