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Old April 12th, 2006 (10:42 AM). Edited April 12th, 2006 by Espy Psyche.
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EVs: 212 SPD/76 ATK/100 DEF/122 HP
Nature: Impish (DEF+/SA-)
-Hidden Power [Ground]
-Rest
-Spikes
-Whirlwind

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EVs: 252 HP/158 SD/100 SA
Nature: Calm (SD+/ATK-)
-T/Bolt
-I/Beam
-Rest
-T/Wave

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EVs: 212 HP/158 DEF/100 SA/58 SD
Nature: Bold (DEF+/ATK-)
-Leech Seed
-Recover
-Heal Bell
-Giga Drain

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EVs: 220 SPD/220 SA/70 DEF
Nature: Timid (SPD+/ATK-)
-Psychic
-Reflect
-Morning Sun
-Hidden Power [Fire]

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EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/6 HP
Nature: Jolly (SPD+/SA-)
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Wing Attack
-Hidden Power [Bug]

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EVs: 252 SPD/252 SA/6 HP
Nature: Modest (SA+/ATK-)
Recover
Surf
Psychic
Rapid Spin
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Old April 12th, 2006 (1:38 PM).
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EVs: 212 SPD/76 ATK/100 DEF/122 HP
Nature: Impish (DEF+/SA-)
-Hidden Power [Ground]
-Rest
-Spikes
-Whirlwind

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EVs: 252 HP/158 SD/100 SA
Nature: Calm (SD+/ATK-)
-Thunder Wave
-I/Beam
-Rest
-Calm Mind

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EVs: 212 HP/158 DEF/100 SA/58 SD
Nature: Bold (DEF+/ATK-)
-Leech Seed
-Recover
-Heal Bell
-Giga Drain

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EVs: 220 SPD/220 SA/70 DEF
Nature: Timid (SPD+/ATK-)
-Psychic
-Reflect
-Morning Sun
-Hidden Power [Fire]

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EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/6 HP
Nature: Jolly (SPD+/SA-)
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Aerial Ace
-Hidden Power [Bug]

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EVs: 252 SPD/252 SA/6 ATK
Nature: Mild (SA+/DEF-)
Recover
Thunder Bolt
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Hey e4! You come here so rarely these changes can be a lot better!
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Old April 12th, 2006 (1:45 PM).
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EVs: 212 SPD/76 ATK/100 DEF/122 HP
Nature: Impish (DEF+/SA-)
-Hidden Power [Ground]
-Rest
-Spikes
-Whirlwind

Never use HP Ground. Skarm cannot OKO Magneton without CB, and only a fool puts CB on Skarmory. You might as well use HP Fighting to stop DDTar.
Starting with Starmie is also a pretty bad idea. Nearly everyone starts with an Electric type, Regice, or other Special attacker these days.


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EVs: 252 HP/158 SD/100 SA
Nature: Calm (SD+/ATK-)
-T/Bolt
-I/Beam
-Rest
-Calm Mind

Umm...yeah...Regice learning Calm Mind? I don't think so, otherwise, this set would've already been the standard wouldn't it?


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EVs: 212 HP/158 DEF/100 SA/58 SD
Nature: Bold (DEF+/ATK-)
-Leech Seed
-Recover
-Heal Bell
-Giga Drain

Tetra-healing Celebi, eh? It could work, just watch out for faster things with Substitute, seeing as how it has no Speed EVs. Raikou can easily come in on this one and sweep the rest of your team.


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EVs: 220 SPD/220 SA/70 DEF
Nature: Timid (SPD+/ATK-)
-Psychic
-Reflect
-Morning Sun
-Hidden Power [Fire]

It's always gotta be Espeon...

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EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/6 HP
Nature: Jolly (SPD+/SA-)
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Hidden Power Flying
-Hidden Power [Bug]

You might as well use the Substitute+Pressure+Liechi Berry set seeing as how Aerodactyl's Attack is subpar for physical attacking. Eithr way, it needs that attack boost. Also HP Flying over Wing Attack.

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EVs: 252 SPD/252 SA/6 ATK
Nature: Mild (SA+/DEF-)
Recover
Surf/Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Psychic
Psychic/Surf/Thunderbolt/Ice Beam
Rapid Spin

Spinner Starmie needs to be Timid with either 301, 333, or 350 Speed. Either way, do not max Speed or SpAttack. It needs for more HP and Defense in order to take a hit while Spinning. And why are you trying to maximize Rapid Spin damage? RS is for getting rid of Spikes, not attacking.
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Old April 12th, 2006 (3:01 PM).
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Aragorn, a few things.
I may replace Espeon with Gardevoir because I just noticed that Gardyblock can be stronger than Espyblock.

Darn, I thought Regice learned CM. Must remember to kill sis for messing with my strategy books. Might actually use Meaty's suggestion of T-Wave then.

Also, I am not maxing Rapid Spin damage. I wanted a 252/252/6 spread and I saw that 6 ATK might be better than 6 HP. Wanted to maximize special attacking damage, not anything else.

Also, I don't need Skarm's HP Ground to OHKO. Hit Maggy on the switch, then outspeed it and hit it again for a 2HKO.

They are in no particular order, actually I might lead off with Regice or Espeon.

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Old April 12th, 2006 (3:23 PM).
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You realize u gave Starmie 6 ATK ev's just for rapid spin and u didn't use a minus attack nature...
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Old April 12th, 2006 (3:30 PM).
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Randomly put 6 EVs in ATK and gave Starmie Mild because I don't really care about the Modest/Mild/Rash debate. Whatever, I'll put my 6 EVs in HP and give myself a Modest nature.
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Old April 13th, 2006 (5:34 AM).
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Regice needs more Psych Up to take away from other CMers. And iirc, even if you outspeed maggie, it requires a 3HKO without any Attack EVs, and even still, Maggie speed EVs are random, so you may not know exactly how much speed to use. And think about it; Maggie is made to kill Skarm before it walls other pokes. If you waste EVs trying to counter it, then you don't have EVs enough to use Skarm at its full potential as a physical wall.
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Old April 13th, 2006 (10:33 AM).
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God not having NB sucks. Really soon I will get PeoplePC service and be back on NB.
Skarm is still a strong enough DEFer to absorb many physical hits, especially with Rest. Also, I think I will switch Espy for Gardy on most of my new teams.
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Old April 14th, 2006 (11:26 AM).
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God not having NB sucks. Really soon I will get PeoplePC service and be back on NB.
Skarm is still a strong enough DEFer to absorb many physical hits, especially with Rest. Also, I think I will switch Espy for Gardy on most of my new teams.
Don't use the word DEFer it makes you sound really dumb. Just use physical wall, that's what it is called (if I'm interpreting the meaning of DEFer correctly).
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Old April 14th, 2006 (11:29 AM).
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Thanks Mullet, I wasn't quite sure what that meant.
 

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