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Old April 13th, 2006 (11:05 AM).
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EVs: 252 HP/128 DEF/128 SD
Nature: Careful (SD+/SA-)
Sand Tomb
Sandstorm
Toxic
Fly

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EVs: 212 HP/158 ATK/100 DEF
Nature: Impish (DEF+/SA-)
Rock Slide
Curse/Bulk Up
Rest
Earthquake

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EVs: 252 SPD/252 SA/6 HP
Flamethrower
Psychic
Thunderpunch
Hidden Power [Ice]

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EVs: 252 ATK/100 HP/100 SA/58 DEF
Nature: Naughty (ATK+/SD-)
Psychic
Agility
Rock Slide
Meteor Mash

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EVs: 220 SA/70 DEF/100 SD/100 HP/20 SPD
Nature: Bold (DEF+/ATK-)
Reflect
Wish
Psychic
Fire Punch

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EVs: 252 HP/158 SD/100 SA
Nature: Calm (SD+/ATK-)
Surf
Ice Beam
Haze
Wish

I know, don’t use fly on NB. But there is a reason for it. The three annoyance conditions compound while I am in the air, I am protected from enemy attacks, and can still do damage (as I cannot do with Protect). Also, the enemy can’t switch out from Sand Tomb.
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Old April 13th, 2006 (11:24 AM). Edited April 13th, 2006 by Mullet.
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EVs: 252 HP/128 DEF/128 SD
Nature: Careful (SD+/SA-)
Sand Tomb
Sandstorm
Toxic
Fly

Flygon can't really do much without CB. With CB he can 2HKO Milo.

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EVs: 212 HP/158 ATK/100 DEF
Nature: Impish (DEF+/SA-)
Rock Slide
Curse/Bulk Up
Rest
Earthquake

Just use Curse. Not sure about the EVs.

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EVs: 252 SPD/252 SA/6 HP
Flamethrower
Cross Chop
Thunderpunch
Hidden Power [Grass]

I don't know Magmar EVs but those don't seem good. Smogon says go with 270 to max Speed then concentrate on Special Attack, but you have Cross Chop so throw a few into attack.

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EVs: 252 ATK/100 HP/100 SA/58 DEF
Nature: Naughty (ATK+/SD-)
Earthquake
Agility
Rock Slide
Meteor Mash

Agilitygross isn't as nearly as good as CB Gross. I don't use Agilitygross don't know the EVs. Smogon says for Agilitygross use at least 198 speed, a lot of attack and some HP.

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EVs: 220 SA/70 DEF/100 SD/100 HP/20 SPD
Nature: Bold (DEF+/ATK-)
Reflect
Wish
Psychic
Fire Punch

More like CM Gardy.

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EVs: 252 HP/158 SD/100 SA
Nature: Calm (SD+/ATK-)
Surf
Ice Beam
Haze
Wish

No. Use this:

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Def / 12 Spd / 96 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Ice Beam / Surf
- Substitute
- Wish

Surf if your not afraid of Water Absorbers.


I know, don’t use fly on NB. But there is a reason for it. The three annoyance conditions compound while I am in the air, I am protected from enemy attacks, and can still do damage (as I cannot do with Protect). Also, the enemy can’t switch out from Sand Tomb.

Fly doesn't annoy all it does is waste a slot.
The EVs need a lot of work. Also some Pokemon NEED CB. You need to learn that.
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Old April 13th, 2006 (11:43 AM).
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I just don't see how Flygon can stay in long enough to set up three moves before Fly, despite leading with Sand Tomb. That is still three hits before you even get to Fly (assuming it goes first), not to mention the fact that ST could fail after two turns.
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Old April 13th, 2006 (11:43 AM).
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This didn't get as much though as most of my teams, this was an "I'm bored so I'll make a team" team.

Gardyblock and my Vaporeon work, as well as Agiligross. Agility is the perfect move for Metagross because it has great ATK but low SPD.

Just got the idea for Flygon by seeing how many conditions it can inflict. Usually I would have used D Claw over Fly.
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Old April 13th, 2006 (12:46 PM).
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Gardyblock and my Vaporeon work, as well as Agiligross. Agility is the perfect move for Metagross because it has great ATK but low SPD.

Just got the idea for Flygon by seeing how many conditions it can inflict. Usually I would have used D Claw over Fly.
Okay you make up these sets. The better players make up better sets thus that is why everyone uses them. If your sets work and are as good as you claim more people would be using them by now.

Baton Passing Subs is great with Vappy if you predict right. Passing a Sub with more than 100 HP to CB Meta is awesome. It's high def makes it so no physical attack can break it's sub, and by the time a Sp. attacker attacks it it will be dead or near dead from a MM or another move. CB Meta is much better. I'm not saying Agilitygross is horrible, just CB Meta is better. Your too paranoid. A CBer will help you win more battles than it will help you lose if you play smart.

Flygon's base Special attack is 80 while that is not bad it is much better to take advantage of it's higher base 100 Attack then attaching a Choice Band. It limits your options but it can 2HKO a Milotic even without an Adamant boost (I use Jolly CB Flygon).
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Old April 13th, 2006 (2:09 PM).
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EVs: 252 HP/128 DEF/128 SD
Nature: Careful (SD+/SA-)
Sand Tomb
Sandstorm
Toxic
Fly

No STAB'd attack and 3 attacks that don't have 100% accuracy (2 with less than 80) makes this a set that is best avoided. There are far better Toxistallers that don't get owned by the first hit they come across.

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EVs: 212 HP/158 ATK/100 DEF
Nature: Impish (DEF+/SA-)
Rock Slide
Curse/Bulk Up
Rest
Earthquake

Curse. Regirock doesn't need speed to get his job done.

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EVs: 252 SPD/252 SA/6 HP
Flamethrower
Psychic
Thunderpunch
Hidden Power [Ice]

Psychic does nothing on this set.

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EVs: 252 ATK/100 HP/100 SA/58 DEF
Nature: Naughty (ATK+/SD-)
Psychic
Agility
Rock Slide
Meteor Mash

Again, Psychic does nothing for Agiligross. Meteor Mash hits plenty hard on Weezing as is, and you have a stronger STAB'd Psychic in Gardevoir. Speed should be enough to get up to 370 or so, so 185 would definitely do the trick.

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EVs: 220 SA/70 DEF/100 SD/100 HP/20 SPD
Nature: Bold (DEF+/ATK-)
Reflect
Wish
Psychic
Fire Punch

Actually, this set looks like it could work well. The EVs are definitely iffy though.

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EVs: 252 HP/158 SD/100 SA
Nature: Calm (SD+/ATK-)
Surf
Ice Beam
Haze
Wish

Standard stuff.
Swampert can stay in the whole match and never be KO'd. Having a 90 accuracy, 2 turn attack that is non-STAB'd on a Flygon with no Atk EVs is also a concern. And unlike Protect, you have no choice but to complete the attack the next turn, meaning you will get hit when you could be switching out.
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That flygon wont work. Use explosion over psychic on metagross. The vaporeon, is good. Gard wants CM....make it happy...give it CM... Regirock, less earthquake and more explosion. Magmar is not that great in OU.
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Old April 13th, 2006 (3:21 PM).
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Use the Flygon mullet made. It's so sexy, i decided to try it and now i love it. It takes around 50% to suicune!!! (meyb the guy had wierd evs but still) CBgon rocks

Thanks mullet=P
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Use the Flygon mullet made. It's so sexy, i decided to try it and now i love it. It takes around 50% to suicune!!! (meyb the guy had wierd evs but still) CBgon rocks

Thanks mullet=P
More like thanks husk. He built me the team to try and help me get out of my slump.

I noticed that the good NBers here have our own little inner circle, lol.
 

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