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Old May 9th, 2006 (7:47 AM).
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Hello, the title explains nicely...

Set in Sapphire

Only 2 of my pokemons I find useless, those are flygon and camerupt, they are high leveled because of the trusty Exp share but they still gets beaten up bad by the elite four, the rest seems fine... though rayquaza gets HP taken off easily. My EV points are quite bad sp there is no need to insult my pokemons for that.

Also as you can notice, I keep all HMs on my party.

I have 175 pokedex so don't worry to surgest replacements.

Kyogre
level 100
Naive
Amulet coin
HP 336/336
Attack 266
Defense 234
SP.attack 327
SP.defense 284
speed 253

waterfall 15/15
thunder 16/16
icebeam 10/10
surf 15/15
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Flygon
level 89
Lax
EXP share
HP 276/276
Attack 215
Defense 187
SP.attack 183
SP.defense 144
speed 236

Fire blast 5/5
Fly 15/15
Strength 15/15
Iron tail 15/15
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Sceptile
level 100
mild
shell bell

HP 290/290
Attack 209
Defense 154
SP.attack 280
SP.defense 194
speed 287

Cut 30/30
Solarbeam 10/10
Flash 20/20
Leafblade 15/15
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Latias
level 100
Leftovers
sassy

HP 312/312
Attack 211
Defense 211
SP.attack 228
SP.defense 314
speed 209

Thunder 10/10
Icebeam 10/10
recover 20/20
Psychic 10/10
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Camerupt
level 100
charcoal
sassy

HP 284/284
Attack 231
Defense 170
SP.attack 259
SP.defense 184
speed 116

Eruption 6/6
Rock Smash 15/15
Fissure 5/5
Fire blast 5/5
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Rayquaza
level 100
shell bell
calm

HP 376/376
Attack 304
Defense 206
SP.attack 341
SP.defense 262
speed 208

Dive 10/10
Blizzard 5/5
Outrage 15/15
Thunder 10/10
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So that is my team, feel free to criticise, that is what I am here for :sleeping:

Please forgive me if i entered this into the wrong forum or something, I am new...
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Old May 9th, 2006 (8:43 AM).
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You have put too amny HM's on pokemon just use a HM slave so instead of fly for flygon use earthquake and i would personally use flamethrower on flygon not fire blast
onto kyogre i dont like using legedaries but i dont know but maybe swap waterfall for rain dance for lots of reasons
onto sceptile why flash and cut use sludge bomb and double edge
good moveset for latias
rocksmash use rock slide and i would again use flamethrower instead of fire blast
and for rayquaza use aerial ace instead of dive

You should get a linnoone because he's a good HM slave and has pick up ability and you will probably be able to get him up to lvl 100 where you get good items all the time
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Old May 9th, 2006 (8:51 AM).
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Thanks, that is a some good help =)
Kyogre has drizzle as an ability so raindance is pretty pointless... correct me if i am wrong.
Well I am going to the game centre so I can buy flamethrower... I am going to need couple of those...
Any more surgestions for my team? I still need help... =(
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Only 2 of my pokemons I find useless, those are flygon and camerupt, they are high leveled because of the trusty Exp share but they still gets beaten up bad by the elite four
Flygon and Camerupt are great Pokemon, it's just that the moves you gave them made them weak..

Also as you can notice, I keep all HMs on my party.
No, one of the rules in team building is to never teach HMs other than Surf to your main party members, since all the other HMs suck. The reason why you felt your Flygon and Camerupt get beaten all the time is because the HM moves you taught them won't do anything in battle except do some weak damage. If you need to get around the game, catch a Tropius or something and teach it a bunch of HMs then delete all the HMs from your main party.

In a standard team format, you do not need to write down your Pokemon's stats, level, or move PP because those are unhelpful. The standard format is

Pokemon @ Item
Nature:
EVs:
-Move 1
-Move 2
-Move 3
-Move 4

This makes things much more organized and easier to read.


Kyogre @Leftovers
Naive
Calm Mind
thunder
icebeam
surf

This set is almost good except for the Leftovers. Go to the move rememberer and reteach it Calm Mind. Then you're all set.

Flygon @Leftovers
Lax
Fire blast
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Crunch


See, Strength is a rather weak move and Fly takes two turns which is looked down upon in Pokemon battling. Also, you taught it Fire Blast but you have a Kyogre in your team, which means it's power will be weakened due to the rain. Keep Kyogre away if you're planning on using Flygon.
Also, remember that Flygon is a Ground type. What's the strongest Ground move? That's right, Earthquake! All Flygons need Earthquake.
Dragon Claw is also a good move and works well alongside Fire Blast for covering all Dragon Pokemon that fire moves aren't effective against.
Flygon should also have Rock Slide, but that's an Emerald move tutor. And you don't need Iron Tail because Earthquake and Fire Blast cover all the types that its effective against. I guess you can reteach it Crunch and have something for those Psychic and Ghost opponents.



Sceptile
level 100
mild
shell bell
Aerial Ace
Focus Punch/Brick Break
Screech

Leafblade

Leaf Blade is your only good move here, all the other moves stink. The problem with using a Sceptile in Ruby or Sapphire is that you don't have access to the move tutors in Emerald which teach you Substitute and Thunderpunch. And the only other good moves it learns (Leech Seed and Endeavor) come from breeding. If you don't have Emerald and you don't want to breed, you'll have to make do with what it can learn here (which is very limited).
If you teach it Aerial Ace, it can handle other Grass types and if you get Focus Punch/Brick Break, you give it even more type coverage. And I guess you can reteach it Screech to deal more damage with physical moves.
Overall, even this Sceptile set is pretty bad. Training Pokemon like Sceptile requires planning out how you'll get all its moves. If you don't have access to Emerald, I'm afraid its a bit too late for this one. :(


Latias
level 100
Leftovers
sassy
Thunder
Icebeam
recover
Calm Mind

Latias is another Pokemon that works best with Calm Mind. You really don't need Psychic since Thunder and Ice Beam cover just about every opponent you can face.


Camerupt @Choice Band
level 100
sassy
Return
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Overheat


No wonder you don't like your Camerupt. You didn't even teach it Rock Slide and Earthquake, its two best moves which it learns naturally. As I told you, don't use HM moves but also don't use OHKO since they aren't worth it in the long run.
Explosion should be its last move, but that's another Emerald tutor, so I guess you can give it Return. Stick Choice Band on it, replace Fire Blast with the more powerful Overheat (you won't need Fire moves that much so the Sp. Atk drop won't matter) and you're ready to go.


Rayquaza
level 100
shell bell
calm
Crunch
Ice Beam
Dragon Claw

Thunder

Special Rayquaza can work except you're forgetting it's STABed Dragon Claw attack which you should promptly put over Outrage since Outrage sucks.
I say Ice Beam may be a better replacement for Blizzard since its more accurate and put Crunch over Dive.
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Old May 9th, 2006 (9:08 AM). Edited May 9th, 2006 by Demonta.
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Wow, cool thanks for the help, I will try and do what you say wise dude! I have done a lot of things according to you, they do seem better! You guys in this forums rules, I never been in such a nice place!
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I say go with aragornbird, except for ray's thunder. change to T-bolt, Air lock would negate The rain so T-bolt is better for more accuarcy and PP
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I say go with aragornbird, except for ray's thunder. change to T-bolt, Air lock would negate The rain so T-bolt is better for more accuarcy and PP

Negative.
Keep thunder.If kyogre switches in, its effect would hold preference and so ray can thunder him...You really dont want kyogre hitting u with IB.
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Not to mention the fact that Kyogre's Drizzle Ability makes Thunder 100% accurate.
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Old May 10th, 2006 (11:18 AM).
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Yeah, I noticed the fact that thunder won't miss, pretty good for kyoge especially it has 16/16! Continous 120 damage attacks that doesn't miss, woot!
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