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Old May 24th, 2006 (3:21 PM).
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could someone rate my team?

Rayquaza Lv83
thunderbolt
ice beam
dragon claw
extreemspeed

Blaziken Lv82
earthquake
sky uppercut
flamethrower
fire blast

Kyogre Lv82
sheer cold
water spout
surf
thunder(drizzle ability)

Groudon Lv75
eruption
solarbeam(drought ability)
fissure
thunderbolt

salamence Lv53(need help with-havent been raising much!!)
flamethrower
rock smash(want to replace!!)
fly
dragonbreath

smeargle Lv51(now,i really need help with her!!)
fly
stomp
dragon claw
-(need a move!)

need help with smeargle and salamence,hope all you champions like it.
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Well I can see your new so welcome, but to post and rate your team you must post that here:
http://pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12
I'm sure a Mod will move this to over there or somewhere else it can belong in =)
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Old May 24th, 2006 (5:04 PM).
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Welcome to the PC. ^^ Your teams moves looks just fine to me, I wouldn't really wanna change them...but thats just my thoughts. ^^; If you want some good advice (XD ^^;; ) then check out the videogame forums. ^^
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This is more suited for the Movesets forum instead of NU/W, so I'll just relocate it there for you. :)

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Nature: Adamant
EV: 252 Att/252 Speed/6 HP
Extremespeed
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide
Earthquake

Super choice bander. Rayquaza always goes first with ES and does monster damage. AA for STAB and Quakeslide because all decent physical attackers need both.

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EV: 252 Speed/144 Att/112 Sp Att
Endure
Reversal
Rock Slide
Overheat/Fire Blast/Flamethrower/Swords Dance

Hasty makes Endure easier to pull off. Not sure what you're gonna outspeed against ubers, but yeah.

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EV: 252 Speed/152 Sp Att/106 Sp Def
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice Beam/Rest
Thunder

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EV: 252 Att/152 Def/106 Speed
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Thunder Wave/Fire Blast/Flamethrower
Swords Dance

Drought gives Groudon virtual STAB, so the only special move you should use is a Fire one. I'm not getting into an argument about how Solarbeam sucks on Groudon, but it does. (And you can't stop Kyogre with it either since Drizzle slows it down as well).

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Dragon Dance
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide/Flamethrower
Earthquake

For EVs, you want Speed to reach 264 minimum at L100, max Att and shift everything extra onto HP and Def/Sp Def. I'd consider replacing this since it adds a triple Ice/double Dragon weakness to your team with Rayquaza and Groudon.

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EV: 252 Speed
Spore
Endure
Belly Drum
Baton Pass

Smeargle isn't gonna do anything against ubers, even with this set up (since most are faster even with max Speed and Salac). It might be funny if you can set up on a slower uber like Ho-oh and pass to Rayquaza or Groudon.
Three major problems with this team. Kyogre and Groudon don't work well on the same team since their traits conflict with each other, and Rayquaza makes things just as difficult with Air Lock. Blaziken, Salamence and Smeargle aren't gonna do anything against other ubers, replace with something that supports your team, Ho-oh works well with Groudon for example. Stick with one of the weather changers and go with that, or keep Rayquaza if you don't like your opponent's weather. And remember to balance weaknesses, triple Ice weakness is just gonna let a fast Ice Beamer like Mewtwo to rip through half your team before you get a chance.
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Rayquaza Lv83
Aeriel Ace
Bulk Up/Dragon Dance
Earthquake
extreemspeed

Rayquaza seems to be balanced in Attack and Special Attack, but its Attack tends to be higher. Aeriel Ace for STAB. Choose between Bulk Up or Dragon Dance. Both raise Attack. Earthquake is probably standard for good physical attackers. Extremespeed will be good for Rayquaza.

Blaziken Lv82
earthquake
sky uppercut
Bulk Up/Sword Dance
fire blast

Blaziken is meant mainly for physical attacks. Keep Fire Blast for a strong hit on high defensive Pokemon. Bulk Up or Sword Dance over Flamethrower.

Kyogre Lv82
Ice Beam
Calm Mind
surf
thunder(drizzle ability)

Kyogre doesn't have enough Speed to always strike first, making Water Spout weaker. OHKO moves should never be used! Calm Mind to power up and sweep. Though I'd use this in a different team, considering that Rayquaza's effect isn't really going to help out much.

Groudon Lv75
Earthquake
Fire Blast
Sword Dance
Rock Slide

Don't use Groudon with Kyogre and Rayquaza in this team!

salamence Lv53(need help with-havent been raising much!!)
Dragon Dance
Rock Slide
Aeriel Ace
Earthquake

This is a messed up set. Then again, you have Rayquaza. Choose different types of Pokemon, and use this in a different team.

smeargle Lv51(now,i really need help with her!!)
fly
stomp
dragon claw
-(need a move!)

Don't use Smeargle! Its stats stink!

need help with smeargle and salamence,hope all you champions like it.
I give it a 2 because you messed up most of these movesets and the Rayquaza-Kyogre-Groudon in one team is going to cause conflict. Think before even choosing your Pokemon.
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no offence but those move sets are great and you have bad taste in movesets.
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I give it a 2 because you messed up most of these movesets and the Rayquaza-Kyogre-Groudon in one team is going to cause conflict. Think before even choosing your Pokemon.
hmm....i dont use groudon and kyogre in a double battle,i use them in single battles.
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Don't double post please. There is a thing called the "edit" button to delete your duplicate.

Also, why did you post this if you didn't expect criticism. Toothache and I are only trying to help, and your movesets are honestly not good. Your team does conflict. When will you realize that?
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could someone rate my team?

Rayquaza Lv83
thunderbolt
ice beam
dragon claw
extreemspeed Flamethrower

Blaziken Lv82
earthquake
sky uppercut
flamethrower
fire blast Aerial Ace works in-game

Kyogre Lv82
sheer cold Calm Mind/Rest would be stronger
water spout
surf Ice Beam
thunder(drizzle ability)

Groudon Lv75
eruption
solarbeam(drought ability)
fissure Earthquake
thunderbolt Ancientpower

salamence Lv53(need help with-havent been raising much!!)
flamethrower
rock smash(want to replace!!)
fly
dragonbreath
Mixed Mence needs a very different set
smeargle Lv51(now,i really need help with her!!)
fly
stomp
dragon claw
-(need a move!)
No clue about Smeargle
need help with smeargle and salamence,hope all you champions like it.
Salamence can be a mixed sweeper, but I prefer a Dragon Dancer.
It seems you want a mixed mence, so I will give you one

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This is in-game? Well, anything works in-game, considering the game is so easy.

Most people post NetBattle teams here. They also post teams for Battle Tower, link battle, and many more. The game is so easy. You can beat the game with those Pokemon but I bet you couldn't win one battle in NetBattle with that team.
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This is in-game? Well, anything works in-game, considering the game is so easy.

Most people post NetBattle teams here. They also post teams for Battle Tower, link battle, and many more. The game is so easy. You can beat the game with those Pokemon but I bet you couldn't win one battle in NetBattle with that team.
smeargle dosnt suck,wats the matter with u?really im more of an attacker person.not a raising stat person!and kyogre is one of the fastest pokemon i have faster then my rayquaza.
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smeargle dosnt suck,wats the matter with u?really im more of an attacker person.not a raising stat person!and kyogre is one of the fastest pokemon i have faster then my rayquaza.
You lack good grammer/spelling.

Just because Smeargle has the potential to learn every move doesn't mean its prefered. A whole bunch of this has to do with stats. If you don't have good Pokemon with good stats, then you might as well find something that can learn the moves you want but has better stats. Why do you post if you don't expect criticism? Just curious. You PMed me about this too.

Just to tell you, if you have better stats, then you can be more of that "attacking person" you want to be.
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You lack good grammer/spelling.

Just because Smeargle has the potential to learn every move doesn't mean its prefered. A whole bunch of this has to do with stats. If you don't have good Pokemon with good stats, then you might as well find something that can learn the moves you want but has better stats. Why do you post if you don't expect criticism? Just curious. You PMed me about this too.

Just to tell you, if you have better stats, then you can be more of that "attacking person" you want to be.
i do that to make words shorter,ive got good grammer and spelling.
attacking person means I dont use movesets with moves like endure or moves that raise stats or cause stats problems.I just faint the pokemon and its over with.
P.S they`re no more good pokemon trainers in the game so it doesn`t matter if kyogre has low speed,but it will always attack first.get what im saying?;) :may: :pokeball: :t235: :t384: :t373: :t383: :t257: :t382:
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Just because Smeargle has the potential to learn every move doesn't mean its prefered. A whole bunch of this has to do with stats. If you don't have good Pokemon with good stats, then you might as well find something that can learn the moves you want but has better stats.
Look at this one:
Smearlge @ Salac Berry
Own Tempo

Spore
Belly Drum
Baton Pass
Endure/Substitute

Spore to put the opponent to sleep, then Belly Drum, then Endure (or Sub) to activate the Salac, then Pass it to someone, both the BD and the Salac.

If it doesn't have good stats, it doesn't mean it sucks. Every pokemon has their use, and Smeargle has alot of them.
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Its just the way Gold Typhlosion is trying to use it. I must agree with you Doom Hammer that Smeargle does have its uses, but obviously Gold Typhlosion doesn't know how to use it well.
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Its just the way Gold Typhlosion is trying to use it. I must agree with you Doom Hammer that Smeargle does have its uses, but obviously Gold Typhlosion doesn't know how to use it well.
just listen i just caught it and i am getting rid of fly stomp,dragon claw.im teaching it rest,thunder wave,endure,and hyper voice.get it now,i copid those moves not meaning to.
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Actually, you triple posted. Those moves are worthless on Smeargle. His stats suck, and the only thing he should do is Baton Pass stuff to the other pokemon. I can understand you like sweepers, but for Christ sake, use something else, there are much better sweepers out there, just choose any one of them. Don't torture Smeargle.
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Actually, you triple posted. Those moves are worthless on Smeargle. His stats suck, and the only thing he should do is Baton Pass stuff to the other pokemon. I can understand you like sweepers, but for Christ sake, use something else, there are much better sweepers out there, just choose any one of them. Don't torture Smeargle.
I agree. Smeargle's stats indeed stink. Even the moves that you are trying to teach him aren't going to do any good. You could consider Doom Hammer's moveset but yours is honestly not good.
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yeah his move sets were good,ill try it.
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Yes this team needs too be worked on,and i see where your comeing from when you say "criticisms" YoMama.But Toothache atless took the time to tell "why" the team isnt working,all you did is said "it stinks" and left it at that.By saying that you are acting like the first time you play any pokemon game you were perfect,sorry no,no one is.Instead of spamming the thread with more and more bs criticisms,why dont you try helping Gold,by giveing her your .v. of move list and/or some pokemon that will work with the good ones she has.
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Originally Posted by SpaMMeR(SwC)
Yes this team needs too be worked on,and i see where your comeing from when you say "criticisms" YoMama.But Toothache atless took the time to tell "why" the team isnt working,all you did is said "it stinks" and left it at that.By saying that you are acting like the first time you play any pokemon game you were perfect,sorry no,no one is.Instead of spamming the thread with more and more bs criticisms,why dont you try helping Gold,by giveing her your .v. of move list and/or some pokemon that will work with the good ones she has.
You say I give bad advice to Gold Typhlosion? All you said is "This team needs to be worked on" when I actually rated his team and told him his weak points. I actually talked about the stats and how the Pokemon need to be used.

Anyway, Smeargle is a good Passer.

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EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spd
-Calm Mind/Bulk Up
-Substitute
-Spore
-Baton Pass

The EVs might be weird, but I'm bad at EVs.
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Old May 30th, 2006 (11:02 AM).
shanecdavis shanecdavis is offline
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YoMama, please don't suggest EVs to people if you are not good at it. Get better and then make suggestions. It doesn't teach anyone anything to make a suggestion and then say you are bad at it.

As for Smeargle, go with Belly Drum over Bulk Up. It works better, even with Lefties instead of Salac.
 

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