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Old June 4th, 2006 (8:24 PM).
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I had no idea Medicham was a Fight/Psychic type. Its an interesting combination. I dont know if putting special move on it is a good idea. Because of its "pure power" ability.

SO what do you guys think? I have read Medicham is good for a BPer , Physical and Special Sweeper.

Serebii Suggested:
Brick Break
Shadow Ball
Rock Slide or HP rock
Fake out
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Old June 4th, 2006 (11:17 PM).
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In this case... Serebii was right.
EVs should go in Speed and attack, then slap a Choice Band on it. It will be one heck of a sweeper.

A Baton Pass set with Ice Punch/Fire Punch/Thunderpunch/Psychic, Sub/Ice Punch/Fire Punch/Thunderpunch/Psychic/Recover, Baton Pass and Calm Mind might work too.

A Bulk Up passer is also an option, but the CB set is by far the most useful, imo.
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MEDICHAM @ Salac Berry
Pure Power

Substitute/Endure
Reversal
Rock Slide/Shadow Ball
Focus Punch/Rock Slide/Shadow Ball/Bulk Up

Highest unboosted attack in the game. (480 something, If I'm not mistaking...)
There's of course your CB set.
It can also become a Subpuncher or use the Endure/Reversal combo (with a giant attack and a great power move, he rocks). Bulk up helps, but it's beaten by Heracross with Swords Dance.
The special Medicham and the BPer both suck, as Medicham doesn't have the defense, special defense or any resistances to survive a BU or a CM, and thus Recover is also worthless.
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Whats CB, BU and CM

IM guessing CB is Choice band and CM is calm mind
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You guessed right. BU is Bulk Up.

Medicham does have the highest unboosted Attack in the game, starting off at 482, and growing to a monster 723 with Choice Band. Killer for anything with low Defence, especially if you figure in Fake Out.
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You guessed right. BU is Bulk Up.

Medicham does have the highest unboosted Attack in the game, starting off at 482, and growing to a monster 723 with Choice Band. Killer for anything with low Defence, especially if you figure in Fake Out.
Not even a thick club Marowak could get that high O_O

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Well, Marowak can go higher if you figure in Swords Dance. Wak is a bit too slow which is why he's only UU/BL, where as Medicham is BL/OU.
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Well, Marowak can go higher if you figure in Swords Dance. Wak is a bit too slow which is why he's only UU/BL, where as Medicham is BL/OU.
Actually Marowak, has higher Max attack than Medicham. I was wrong. With the thick club and belly drum.

Marowak=Highest Attack in the game

Baton pass it some Agility, Marowak will seriously Molest people. THen with rock head it can pull off some dangerous moves such as double edge.

Its MAx is 284

284x2=568 Then with thick club and belly drum its attack is multiplied by 8.

284x8=2272

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Yeah, Wak is higher with Thick Club, but Medicham doesn't need TC to have hefty Attack. That's what I meant by 'unboosted'.

BPing some speed to Thick Club Wak is as old as GSC, when the combo known as Joltwak was feared. You had Jolteon passing Agility and Substitute to Wak. Nowadays, the same combo can be pulled off slightly easier with Ninjask, who also can give Swords Dance as well as Speed Boost and Sub. Like most BPing strategies, it's deadly if you can pull it off, and not so bad if you can't, since Marowak has a fairly low Sp Def and falls easily to an Ice, Water or Grass move.
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Marowak with Thick Club and Swords Dance is fun to use.
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Yeah, Wak is higher with Thick Club, but Medicham doesn't need TC to have hefty Attack. That's what I meant by 'unboosted'.

BPing some speed to Thick Club Wak is as old as GSC, when the combo known as Joltwak was feared. You had Jolteon passing Agility and Substitute to Wak. Nowadays, the same combo can be pulled off slightly easier with Ninjask, who also can give Swords Dance as well as Speed Boost and Sub. Like most BPing strategies, it's deadly if you can pull it off, and not so bad if you can't, since Marowak has a fairly low Sp Def and falls easily to an Ice, Water or Grass move.
Medicham cant even use thick club. Only cubone and marowak can.

Besides, when you think about it. 480 is really a boost. Its max is really 240 but because of pure power, the attack is doubled as soon as it gets on the feild
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CB Adamant Medicham with Pure Power is fun. 723 Attack?!? That's nuts.
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Enyce, use smogon for movesets. Their analysis and strategies are generally more detailed and varied than serebii’s: http://www.smogon.com/advance/medicham/strategy

Medicham is awesome as a physical sweeper, always a force to be reckoned with. It’s an Okay BPer but only in a BP chain. It sucks as a special sweeper though. It doesn’t have the defenses to pull off more than 1 or 2 Calm Minds before getting killed, nor the speed to actually hit hard and fast. No way comparable to something like Alakazam.

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Well, Marowak can go higher if you figure in Swords Dance. Wak is a bit too slow which is why he's only UU/BL, where as Medicham is BL/OU.
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UU Marowak is lol
BL Medicham is lol
Please make sure you know what's UU and BL before you ever refer to them again
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^In other words... They are both OU... Pretty very OU as a matter of fact
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Things like that are so OU its not even funny.
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Medicham's max attack with CB is 720 not 723
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Medicham's max attack with CB is 720 not 723
Lol. I didn't know the number 3 made such a difference to you.

Anyway, CB Adamant Medicham kicks hard. I wouldn't do Fake Out with CB because you'd have to keep using that move.
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Fake Out is the standard on Medicham. And you don’t have to keep doing that because Medicham is a hit-an-run Pokemon. Hit their starter with Fake Out, then switch out to an appropriate counter. Works wonders on Ninjask, Jolteon, and any Pokemon that would normally be faster than you.

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I guess switching out is the best thing to do in that situation. I'd rather not have to switch out though.
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You guessed right. BU is Bulk Up.

Medicham does have the highest unboosted Attack in the game, starting off at 482, and growing to a monster 723 with Choice Band. Killer for anything with low Defence, especially if you figure in Fake Out.
I hope you don't take offense to this, but you should learn more about Pokemon, because if you think Medicham is BL, and Marowak is UU you must be an idiot.
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I guess switching out is the best thing to do in that situation. I'd rather not have to switch out though.
Unfortunately for you, everything has a counter, which means if you are a good player, you'll want a mastery of switching and prediction.
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I had no idea Medicham was a Fight/Psychic type. Its an interesting combination. I dont know if putting special move on it is a good idea. Because of its "pure power" ability.

SO what do you guys think? I have read Medicham is good for a BPer , Physical and Special Sweeper.

Serebii Suggested:
Brick Break
Shadow Ball
Rock Slide or HP rock
Fake out
I would try a Salac sweeper, like this one.
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EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/6 HP
Nature: Adamant (ATK+/SA-)
Endure
Reversal
Rock Slide
Shadow Ball

This can be very effective against teams that don't have T-Tar. Another option, better against T-Tar, would be:
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EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/6 HP
Nature: Jolly (SPD+/SA-)
Hi Jump Kick
Shadow Ball
Rock Slide
HP Bug

The former is the e4 recommended set, but the latter works as well. As for special attacks, the only one Medicham has any business with is Psychic to kill Weezing, or maybe Fire Punch for Skarm/Forry.
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yea medicham hits 480, then with cb 720, deoxys-f does have more.

Subcham or cbcham is what I'd recommend as everything else is really just a novelty set....

Subcham- sub, rock slide, reversal, hi jump kick/shadow ball/focus punch/bp

cbcham is listed above many times - hjk, shadow ball, focus punch/frustration, rock slide
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I would try a Salac sweeper, like this one.
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EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/6 HP
Nature: Adamant (ATK+/SA-)
Endure
Reversal
Rock Slide
Shadow Ball

This can be very effective against teams that don't have T-Tar. Another option, better against T-Tar, would be:
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EVs: 252 ATK/252 SPD/6 HP
Nature: Jolly (SPD+/SA-)
Hi Jump Kick
Shadow Ball
Rock Slide
HP Bug

The former is the e4 recommended set, but the latter works as well. As for special attacks, the only one Medicham has any business with is Psychic to kill Weezing, or maybe Fire Punch for Skarm/Forry.
Medicham doesn't need HP bug because of Shadow Ball, and last i checked, Psychic doesn't kill weezing, and Fire Punch is inferior to what Focus Punch, Hi Jump Kick, and Brick Break can do to skarm and Forry.
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