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Old June 5th, 2006 (1:51 PM).
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Ninjask-leftovers-adamant Hp 263 Att 306 Def 126 Speed 418 Sp.Att 122 Sp.Def 135
baton pass
silver wind
swords dance
substitute

Snorlax-leftovers-adamant Hp 461 Att 350 Def 228 Speed 95 Sp.Att 148 Sp.Def 255
rest
charm
shadowball
return

Ludicolo-leftovers-titmid Hp 322 Att 158 Def 220 Speed 213 Sp.Att 216 Sp.Def 279
toxic
attract
leech seed
seismic toss

Dragonite-choiceband-adamant
Hidden Power:flying Hp 323 Att 403 Def 226 Speed 258 Sp.Att 212 Sp.Def 235
earthquake
fireblast
rock tomb
hidden power

Muk-leftovers-adamant Hp 355 Att 275 Def 213 Speed 183 Sp.Att 179 Sp.Def 243
curse
flamethrower
sludge bomb
torment

Slowking-scope lens-quiet Hp 331 Att 248 Def 258 Speed 86 Sp.Att 259 Sp.Def 258
calm mind
curse
psychic
shadow ball
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Old June 5th, 2006 (2:09 PM).
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Old June 5th, 2006 (2:13 PM).
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Ninjask (F) @ Leftovers ** JaSkEd NiNjA
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Silver Wind
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

Dragonite (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Tomb

Slowking (F) @ Scope Lens
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 251 Atk / 251 Def / 8 SDef
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Calm Mind
- Curse
- Psychic
- Shadow Ball

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** SnOlaX
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Charm
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Muk (F) @ Leftovers ** Uk
Trait: Sticky Hold
EVs: 16 HP / 16 Atk / 112 Def / 191 Spd / 143 SAtk / 32 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Flamethrower
- Sludge Bomb
- Torment

Ludicolo (F) @ Leftovers ** LuDiLo
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 85 HP / 176 Def / 74 Spd / 175 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Attract
- Leech Seed
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic
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Ninjask-leftovers-adamant Hp 263 Att 306 Def 126 Speed 418 Sp.Att 122 Sp.Def 135
baton pass
silver wind
swords dance
substitute

Ninjask is overrated. As soon as people see one, they're gonna bring in their phazers/hazers to stop you in your tracks. If you want to use Ninjask, you're gonna need an anti-phazer as well as quick prediction. But it would be easier if you just didn't use one.


Snorlax-leftovers-adamant Hp 461 Att 350 Def 228 Speed 95 Sp.Att 148 Sp.Def 255
rest
charm
shadowball
return

Ah, Charm Snorlax. Pretty creative. But Snorlax should always have a Careful nature. And I can tell you did not put EVs in Special Defense which is a bad idea. Give Snorlax 300-310 Sp. Def, lower the Attack to 300, lower the Defense to 200-180, and put the rest in HP.


Ludicolo-leftovers-titmid Hp 322 Att 158 Def 220 Speed 213 Sp.Att 216 Sp.Def 279
leech seed
Rain Dance
Surf/Hydro Pump
Ice Beam

Don't use Stalling Ludicolo please, it won't work. Take advantage of Swift Swim and use the modified set above. Of course, you're have to edit its Nature (to Modest), give it 198 speed, and max out its Special attack.

Dragonite-choiceband-adamant
Hidden Power:flying Hp 323 Att 403 Def 226 Speed 258 Sp.Att 212 Sp.Def 235
earthquake
fireblast
Focus Punch
hidden power

Rock Tomb? A weak attack like that is not gonna do anything. Focus Punch please. I assume that Hidden Power is a Flying type, but you didn't specify. Please use the standard Netbattle format I mentioned earlier.

Muk-leftovers-adamant Hp 355 Att 275 Def 213 Speed 183 Sp.Att 179 Sp.Def 243
curse
flamethrower
sludge bomb
Explosion/Hidden Power

Muk is cool, unfortunately outclassed by Weezing though. Using Curse with only one physical attack and no way of recovery is a bad idea. Give it Explosion or Hidden Power Ghost as its last move.


Slowking-scope lens-quiet Hp 331 Att 248 Def 258 Speed 86 Sp.Att 259 Sp.Def 258
calm mind
curse
psychic
shadow ball

Slowking is inferior to Slowbro. And what is up with that Scope Lens? You were doing so well with your items until now. Also, don't even think about trying to boost Attack and Special Attack in the same set. It won't work, and you have no way of healing so any Pokemon can just Toxic or Leech Seed stall you to death.
Use the following SlowBRO set:

Slowbro (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Def / 96 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Surf
- Rest
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Old June 5th, 2006 (2:25 PM).
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Thanks for the help, I'm going to change everything and try that
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Old June 5th, 2006 (2:27 PM).
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The Ninjask-Substitute-Speed Boost is so OU and chances are you won't be able to say alive long enough to pass the Speed. You're much better off with Scizor to pass Attack and Speed.
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Old June 5th, 2006 (3:06 PM).
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*Cough* Ninjask sucks without a counter to common phazers/hazers *Cough* Magneton *Cough*
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Old June 5th, 2006 (5:28 PM).
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Lol. I don't even want to think what Magneton would do to Ninjask.
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Omg... You would figure that you would realize i am suggesting Magneton FOR HIS TEAM as it takes care of the two most common Phazers (Suicune and Skarm) and also handles Weezing effectively... All three of which are threats to Ninjask
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Old June 6th, 2006 (4:46 AM).
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The Ninjask-Substitute-Speed Boost is so OU and chances are you won't be able to say alive long enough to pass the Speed. You're much better off with Scizor to pass Attack and Speed.
It takes Scizor Twice as long to set up since it has to use two moves consecutively. So neither one is really better. It's more of a preference thing.

Personally I like Absol for passing any kind of Swords Dances since it can use Taunt. Granted its defenses suck, but that's something I can work around.
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Old June 6th, 2006 (5:29 AM).
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Taunt is very important if you can stop Hazers/Phazers from ruining your fun.
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Old June 6th, 2006 (5:47 AM).
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Taunt is very important if you can stop Hazers/Phazers from ruining your fun.
Not to be mean or anything, but that side comment wasn't necessary, as i wouldn't mention Taunt if I didn't know what it could do =/.
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Old June 6th, 2006 (6:04 AM).
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set your evs to 'snap' it's a checkbox in the expert part of the team builder.

by using odd numbers of evs in one stat you are effectivly wasting evs, examples being your last four pokemon.

Ninjask - sub/bp/swords dance/hp flying (stop saying it is easily countered, skarmory is easily countered, so what, doesn't mean it sucks)

snorlax - rest/curse/shadow ball/return or body slam, charm is good in theory but they will just switch out, and seeing as skarmory/metagross would be the most common switch ins, charm is redundant.

careful nature, enough evs for - 496 hp / 180 defence / 330 special defence and put the rest of the evs in attack

ludicolo - ice beam/leech seed/hp grass/toxic, toxic random switch-ins i guess

dragonite - hp flying/focus punch/earthquake/thunder, thunder hits skarmory and milotic switches hard

muk and slowking don't really work in ou

Slowbro is better then slowking with Sirf/Calm Mind/Rest/Ice Beam, or Surf/Calm Mind/Rest/Sleep Talk
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Rain Dancing Ludicolo is best. Toxicstalling Ludicolo stinks because it simply can't stall. The opponent switches out and Toxic becomes less powerful.
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Toxic doesn't lose it's effects after they switch out in ADV, it does in RBY but not ADV.

Raindancing Ludicolo is met straight up with Regice/Blissey/Snorlax and just loses easily to them, so there's really no point of using Rain Dancing Colo
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Rain Dancing Ludicolo's Speed is doubled in the rain and hit hards hard with a double-powered Surf. Toxicstalling Ludicolo fails in comparison to Rain Dancing Ludicolo and I'm suprised you haven't realized that yet. Aragornbird knows what he's doing what he says that Stalling Ludicolo doesn't work in NetBattle.
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1) i'm not saying use toxi-stall, i'm saying toxic random things on the switch, you reall think milotic will like switching into toxic when it predicts a surf?

2) lol at double powered surf, rain increases water moves' power by 50% not 100%

3) yeah you will really special sweep blissey with raindanced surfs

4) i know toxistalling doesn't work in NB, i knew that before you even started NB most likely.

in conclusion, i'm saying toxic random switches, ever wondered why toxic claydol works well, because it hits dusclops with toxic on the switch and the standard doesn't carry rest, meaning dusclops cannot be used as effectivly as your opponent would like. same with colo and milotic

EDIT: find the part where i say 'use toxistalling' then
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1) i'm not saying use toxi-stall, i'm saying toxic random things on the switch, you reall think milotic will like switching into toxic when it predicts a surf?

2) lol at double powered surf, rain increases water moves' power by 50% not 100%

3) yeah you will really special sweep blissey with raindanced surfs

4) i know toxistalling doesn't work in NB, i knew that before you even started NB most likely.

in conclusion, i'm saying toxic random switches, ever wondered why toxic claydol works well, because it hits dusclops with toxic on the switch and the standard doesn't carry rest, meaning dusclops cannot be used as effectivly as your opponent would like. same with colo and milotic

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You don't get it, don't you? Ludicolo with Toxic=waste of a slot. Leech Seed/Ice Beam/Rain Dance/Surf, like aragornbird suggested, is the most prefered set. Using Toxic on random things isn't going to get you anywhere. Cleric Blissey will spoil your little posion plans. Why would a special attacker like Ludicolo even try to outstall Blissey anyway? When you know how to use Pokemon in NetBattle, I would like to know.
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Too bad Blissey also spoils Rain Dance Ludi's plans of "sweeping". Seriously, don't post whe you don't know what you're talking about
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more like ludicolo with rain dance = waste of a slot.

at least toxicing on milotic's switch can help you beat it, seeing as it doesn't run rest and toxic's effects stay even after a switch out.

and also in case you hadn't noticed, his team can't actually take down milotic, so i don't see how rain dance ludicolo will help with his milotic problem.

also lol at the part about when i know how to use pokemon, i've more then likely been NBing at least twice as long as you, and i clearly know how to play pokemon, i also know how certain moves can help a team against it's weakness, and rain dance ain't gonna help against milotic.
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you only have 62 posts, you don't know what you're talking about obviously
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It needs to be locked regardless, as the conversation is pointless.
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