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Old June 16th, 2006 (9:27 AM).
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I got bored of NetBattle, and I found this team. It was like one of the first teams I ever made. Its bad, but hopefully you guys can improve it. I'm clueless. :\

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Long Neck
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 196 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

It seems standard. I didn't bother with an Adamant Nature because I thought that I needed more Speed.

Clefable (M) @ Leftovers ** Pretty Fairy
Trait: Cute Charm
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 104 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Cosmic Power
- Rest
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Its fine I guess, but if I can improve this thing then imagine how much beter it will be.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Green Pixie
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 236 HP / 136 Def / 48 Spd / 48 SAtk / 36 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Leech Seed
- Recover
- Toxic

400 HP with 269 Defense and Special Defense. HP Grass for Power and PP. Leech Seed-Leftovers-Recover is fun while Toxic is draining the opponent.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** ZZZ
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 168 HP / 56 Atk / 196 Def / 88 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Belly Drum
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Return

I tried Curselax on my very first team. I hated it so much because of Phazers. Belly Drum and Rest work well together. The only problem might be Gengar.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Swamp Dweller
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 104 Atk / 56 Def / 56 SAtk / 56 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Surf

400 HP I thought was about right for Swampert. Curse with QuakeSlide. Surf for STAB and Claydol and Flygon.

Blaziken (M) @ Salac Berry ** Firey Fighter
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Endure
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Reversal
- Swords Dance

It stinks, I know. I need serious help with this.
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Old June 16th, 2006 (11:15 AM).
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Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Long Neck
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 112 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)

- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

DDers don't need that much speed. 264 is all you need for a starting point.

Clefable (M) @ Leftovers ** Pretty Fairy
Trait: Cute Charm
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 104 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Cosmic Power
- Rest
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Toxic won't work in a world full of Subs, Rests, clerics, Poison, and Steel Pokemon. Also, this can't touch Gengar at all. Clefable is so cool and can learn so many good moves, but this is just a waste really. Seriously, use another Clefable set, and choose from Counter, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Encore, Thunder Wave, Psych Up, Softboiled, Calm Mind, Wish, Reflect, Charm etc...anything but Cosmic Power.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Green Pixie
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 236 HP / 136 Def / 48 Spd / 48 SAtk / 36 SDef
Bold Nature
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Leech Seed
- Recover
- Heal Bell

Most Celebis can either Heal Bell, BP, or even sweep by themselves. All this one can do is stall, and stalling in RS will only go so far before you are blocked by a Sub or hit by a CH. Replace Toxic with Heal Bell so Cel will at least have some other use. Then make it Bold, since Cel has much more to worry about from physical attacks than special.


Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** ZZZ
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 168 HP / 56 Atk / 196 Def / 88 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Belly Drum
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Return

BDLax has much more problems than just Gengar. More like powerful CBers KOing you after you Belly Drum, since you'll only be at half health (and that's assuming you don't take any damage before that). Also, Snorlax is phazer-bait while it rests, which is why most Pokemon choose Chesto Berry. However, the removal of Leftovers makes Lax even more vulnerable after it BDs. So the success of this Snorlax is too situational.


Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Swamp Dweller
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 104 Atk / 56 Def / 56 SAtk / 56 SDef
Relaxed Nature
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Surf/Hydro Pump

I prefer this Swampert to be Relaxed, since it doesn't have Rest so hard-hitting attacks will wear it down eventually. Hydro Pump is usually preffered over Surf since Swampert needs that boost in power, especially a more offensive Swampert like this one.


Blaziken (M) @ Salac Berry ** Firey Fighter
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Endure
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Reversal
- Swords Dance

Naive Nature without any special attacks? Although Fire Blast/Overheat is a good choice for ReversalKen due to Blaze. You can still OKO Skarmory and Forretress after one Swords Dance though.
If you're sticking with this set, make it Jolly, lower that speed to 264 (or 265 to beat other Reversalers), and stack the rest in HP.

The problem with this team is that it relies too much on setting up, most of which can be phazed away or blocked by Sub. This team doesn’t like Spikes and CBers since there will be a lot of switching around

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