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Originally Posted by YoMama
Yes, but once Gengar schools Breloom, you're going to be owned by Chaosbreon and all of those other bulky waters and stallers.
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1) why would he leave Breloom in against Gar anyway, and if Loom has a sub up already it gets seeded, hindering it
2) Swampert beats SubPunch Gengar
3) Snorlax beats pure special Gar even without shadow ball
4) Bulky waters can't do **** to Starmie
5) Hardly anyone uses Umbreon, let alone ML BP Umby to Perish Song Celebi which is what Chaosbreon is.
6) Snorlax muks all over Umbreon anyway
7) Tell me what a staller can do to Sub Skarm, Snorlax with Rest and Recover Starmie, please