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Old June 21st, 2006 (9:19 AM).
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well i'm clearing away everything in my team without an advantagous nature so;

Marowak @thick club {adamant}
significant EVs; 220 att 120 def (or so says an EV calculator)
EQ
Swordsdance
substitute
focus punch
it has low enough speed for subpunch and can take out any low defense non flying sp.att pokemon. It also povides my main attacker and defense
00ber kills; tbolt/flame mewtwo

Charizard @lefties {mild}
EVs; 200 spatt 110 speed (calculator again)
flamethrower
dragon claw
sunny day
swagger
main speedster and a good special attacker. standard spatt zard
00ber kills; groudon, icebeam/psychic mewtwo

Zapdos @lefties {modest}
EVs; i got around 230 in special att. struggled to find others.
tbolt
twave (i finaly got it!)
HP grass
lightscreen
premium sp.att, 00ber killer and now a paralizer!
00ber kills; ho-oh, lugia (non icebeam and some rayquaza sets

Regice @chesto berry {quiet}
EVs; 160 sp.att (roughly) 180sp.def (roughly)
tbolt
icebeam
toxic (now the only toxicer, so i need it!)
rest
sp.att'er wall and tank!
00ber kills; groudon, rayquaza and kyogre

meganium @lefties {gentle}
EVs; i could only get the estimate at 210 sp.def
solarbeam
sunny day
protect
attract
another wall and for 00ber kill sunnybeam is good despite its ability
00ber kills; kyogre, groudon

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scizor @choice band/lefties {naughty}
EVs; defensivly and attak trained, some good speed too
steel wing
HP rock/ morning sun
silver wind
swords dance

would mornng sun be a good choice because of the sunny dayers in my team, or should i have HP?

help please!
also breeding for some moves is a little late to do! but i do have access to every tm and all move tutors except rockslide, including lg and XD.
scizor help will be thanked well!
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Old June 21st, 2006 (7:03 PM).
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The Sunny Dayers you’re using on your team are bad choices. Ideally, Sunny Day should only be used on Pokemon with the Chlorophyll trait. Other Fire and Grass Pokemon have better things to do.

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well i'm clearing away everything in my team without an advantagous nature so;

Marowak @thick club {adamant}
significant EVs; 220 att 120 def (or so says an EV calculator)
EQ
Swordsdance
Rock Slide
Double-Edge

SubPunching isn't worth it. Marowak is an all out sweeper, with little time for setting up. You probably won't even get a chance to use Swords Dance before being forced to switch out. Max out Attack please. And it better have the Rock Head trait (for Double-Edge).

Charizard @Salac Berry {mild}
EVs; 200 spatt 110 speed (calculator again)
Belly Drum
Substitute
Aerial Ace
Earthquake/Rock Slide/Fire Blast

Special Sweeping Charizard isn't the way to go in the competitive game. If you want a real uber-killer, use the Belly Drumming set with Salac Berry attached. But seeing as how Belly Drum is a bred-on move, and Salac can't be obtained in-game, you're better off not using Charizard at all. There are better special sweepers out there.
And how can it kill Groudon (when it has Rock Slide) and Mewtwo (who is faster and takes out Charizard in 2 Psychics)?


Zapdos @lefties {modest}
EVs; i got around 230 in special att. struggled to find others.
tbolt
HP grass
Rest
Sleep Talk

Restalk Zapdos is better. Thunder Wave is better utilized by Regice.



Regice @chesto berry {quiet}
EVs; 160 sp.att (roughly) 180sp.def (roughly)
tbolt
icebeam
Thunder Wave
rest

Like I said, Thynder Wave is better on Regice. Also, Blissey is a better special wall against ubers.


meganium @lefties {gentle}
EVs; i could only get the estimate at 210 sp.def
Leech Seed
Counter
Synthesis
Razor Leaf

"Sunny Day should only be used on Pokemon with the Chlorophyll trait." Meganium doesn't have this. Also, Attract sucks and most ubers are genderless, so it won't work against them. An ideal Meganium has the above set.


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scizor @Liechi Berry {Adamant}
EVs; defensivly and attak trained, some good speed too
Reversal
Endure/Substitute
Agility
Silver Wind

I prefer Reversal Scizor, since its the only Reversaler immune to Sandstorm.
It seems you’re really intent on killing ubers, but you don’t have the right Pokemon to do it. Also, you are ignoring Latios/Latias, because with Soul Dew, they are also ubers.
Anyways, only a select few non-uber Pokemon can kill ubers.

Lanturn/Quagsire for Kyogre
Flygon/Exeggutor/Chlorophyllers for Groudon
Swampert/Suicune/Milotic for physical Rayquaza
Blissey for Mewtwo, Latios/Latias, and special Rayquaza


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Old June 22nd, 2006 (12:29 AM).
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Shedinja and Qwilfish also count as non-uber Kyogre counters. Shedinja is immune to all of Kyogre's standard moves with Wonder Guard, and Qwilfish goes first with Destiny Bond to take a Kyogre Thunder.

Endreving Heracross is a great uber counter, especially around the Psychics, since they have low Def and Heracross can get the jump on them all (minus Deoxys-E and Extremespeeders) after a Salac Berry with Megahorn. Reversal does a number on the special walls that will get in your way, just make sure the rest of your team can deal with Deoxys and Rayquaza for him.
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