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Old June 21st, 2006 (10:23 AM). Edited June 21st, 2006 by enyce.
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Okay I never devoted myself to one type before. But now I do...

anyway

Heracross:
Trait: Guts
Sleep talk
Rest
Brick Break
Megahorn

Breloom:
Trait:Effect Spore
Spore
Focus Punch
Leech seed
(move here)

Hitmonchan:
Trait:keen eye
Counter
Sky Uppercut/brick break
Earthquake (poison handling, minus koffing fam and gastly fam)
HP Ghost (psychic handler)

Hitmonlee:
Trait: Limber
Reversal
Hi Jump Kick
Rock Slide
HP ghost (again)

Medicham:
Trait: Pure Power
Rock Slide
Psychic (I have too many phsyicals as it is)
Hi Jump Kick
Shadow Ball

Machamp:
Trait:Guts
Cross Chop (high critical hit ratio)
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Revenge/Vital Throw

This seems to cover my fighting weaknesses. Flying and Psychic...

Machamp, Hitmonlee and Medicham have rockslide. (flying)

If someone comes at me with fire to pick on Breloom I can switch and earthquake them. Shadow Ball, Megahorn and HP ghost will deal with Psychics. If somebody comes at me with Exeggutor Ill laugh and waste them with Megahorn. Of course normal types die

This is mainly for Battle fronteir or anything else I feel like doing with them
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Old June 21st, 2006 (10:32 AM).
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Okay I never devoted myself to one type before. But now I do...

anyway

Heracross:
Trait: Guts
Sleep talk
Rest
Brick Break
Megahorn

This heracross is beautiful!!!!!!!!!nicely done!

Breloom:
Trait:Effect Spore
Spore
Focus Punch
Leech seed
(move here)

Put sky uppercut for the 4th move

Hitmonchan:
Trait:keen eye
Counter
Sky Uppercut/brick break
Earthquake (poison handling, minus koffing fam and gastly fam)
HP Ghost (psychic handler)

i would put sky uppercut, And good way of handling that earthquake and HP Ghost

Hitmonlee:
Trait: Limber
Reversal
Hi Jump Kick
Rock Slide
HP ghost (again)

In my opinion i would put reversal on a slower pokemon because if they get hit first then this move will be great in sweeping up oponents pokemons.

Medicham:
Trait: Pure Power
Rock Slide
Psychic (I have too many phsyicals as it is)
Hi Jump Kick
Shadow Ball

If you want put in thunder punch just in case the flying pokemon is skarmory. Skarmory may resist some rock slides but thunderpunch will kill it all the way

Machamp:
Trait:Effect spore
Cross Chop (high critical hit ratio)
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Revenge/Vital Throw

Instead of revenge i like vital throw to knock away those leftovers and those healing berries. But If youw ant revenge

This seems to cover my fighting weaknesses. Flying and Psychic...

Machamp, Hitmonlee and Medicham have rockslide. (flying)

If someone comes at me with fire to pick on Breloom I can switch and earthquake them. Shadow Ball, Megahorn and HP ghost will deal with Psychics. If somebody comes at me with Exeggutor Ill laugh and waste them with Megahorn. Of course normal types die

This is mainly for Battle fronteir or anything else I feel like doing with them
This is such a good team and so many ways to help defend your pokemons from there counters
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Old June 21st, 2006 (10:41 AM).
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I like Hitmonchan because its Mixed tank..It has a base defense of 73 and a Base sp.defense of 110.

So Hitmonchan can take a couple hits. Then Counter if im getting a physical volley. Since I have no flying counter for hitmonchan.
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Old June 21st, 2006 (10:47 AM).
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I like Hitmonchan because its Mixed tank..It has a base defense of 73 and a Base sp.defense of 110.

So Hitmonchan can take a couple hits. Then Counter if im getting a physical volley. Since I have no flying counter for hitmonchan.
it can take a couple of hits with physical moves but it can take a lot of hits from special moves. What I would do(don't need to do the same) is when a oponent brings out a sp. sweeper then I will bring hitmonchan out to fight it.
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I just found out the biggest threat to my team...

Metagross. I dont think even an earthquaking Machamp or Hitmonchan can stop it
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Old June 21st, 2006 (1:29 PM).
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Okay I never devoted myself to one type before. But now I do...

anyway

Heracross:
Trait: Guts
Sleep talk
Rest
Brick Break
Megahorn

Fine...

Breloom:
Trait:Effect Spore
Spore
Focus Punch
Leech seed
Substitute

Ever heard of SubSeed? It will finish Metagross for you


Hitmonchan:
Trait:keen eye
Counter
Sky Uppercut/brick break
Earthquake (poison handling, minus koffing fam and gastly fam)
HP Ghost (psychic handler)

HitmonChan one of the worst fighters in the game... Be cool and use a CB Primape

Hitmonlee:
Trait: Limber
Reversal
Endure
Rock Slide
HP ghost (again)

HP ghost in game... Lucky

Medicham:
Trait: Pure Power
Rock Slide
Psychic (I have too many phsyicals as it is)
Hi Jump Kick
Shadow Ball

Its SP.Atk sucks balls... USe Fake Out and give it a Choice Band

Machamp:
Trait:Guts
Cross Chop (high critical hit ratio)
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Revenge/Vital Throw

Use the S.Talker set (heracross's set) on this bcuz it does it better imo

Machamp, Hitmonlee and Medicham have rockslide. (flying)

If someone comes at me with fire to pick on Breloom I can switch and earthquake them. Shadow Ball, Megahorn and HP ghost will deal with Psychics. If somebody comes at me with Exeggutor Ill laugh and waste them with Megahorn. Of course normal types die

This is mainly for Battle fronteir or anything else I feel like doing with them
Psychics are fast my friend... Alakazam with Fire Punch say lol to you but you cant touch it with Fighting types
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In my opinion i would put reversal on a slower pokemon because if they get hit first then this move will be great in sweeping up oponents pokemons.
WRONG. Reversalers need to be as fast as possible so they will have the first strike. Remember that Reversal is at max power only when the user has 6% HP or lower. At 6%, even ineffective hits will kill you, so you need to outspeed as many opponents as you can. A slow Reversaler will instantly die to a faster opponent.

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If you want put in thunder punch just in case the flying pokemon is skarmory. Skarmory may resist some rock slides but thunderpunch will kill it all the way
No it won't. Medicham can't kill Skarmory even with Max Special Attack. Besides, a STABed Hi Jump Kick (along with Medicham's Pure Power) will do more damage than a supereffective Thunderpunch.

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Instead of revenge i like vital throw to knock away those leftovers and those healing berries. But If youw ant revenge
Um, Vital Throw can't knock away items. You are confusing it with Knock Off, which Machamp can't learn.

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Heracross:
Trait: Guts
Sleep talk
Rest
Brick Break
Megahorn

Fine.

Breloom:
Trait:Effect Spore
Spore
Focus Punch
Leech seed
Sky Uppercut/Substitute

A secondary Fighting move for those cases when Breloom doesn't have time to FP. Or Substitute for a very effective and very annoying moveset that involves sleep and subseeding.


Hitmonchan:
Trait:keen eye
Counter
Sky Uppercut/brick break
Earthquake (poison handling, minus koffing fam and gastly fam)
HP Ghost (psychic handler)

Good luck resetting your game 500 times before you get the IVs for a decent powered HP Ghost. Anyways, Hitmonchan is crap. Use Blaziken or Hariyama. Even Hitmontop is better because at least it has Intimidate. Hitmonchan can't defend against anything at all since it only has 50 HP.

Hitmonlee:
Trait: Limber
Reversal
Hi Jump Kick
Rock Slide
Endure

See above comment regarding HP Ghost. Endure would be a better choice in that last slot, since you can't Reversal effectively without ensuring that you'll survive the enemie's hit.


Medicham:
Trait: Pure Power
Rock Slide
Psychic
Hi Jump Kick
Shadow Ball

Fine. Make sure you get your Choice Band as soon as you can buy it.

Machamp:
Trait:Guts
Cross Chop (high critical hit ratio)
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Facade

You don't need a second fighting move. Facade please.

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Old June 21st, 2006 (2:17 PM).
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Psychics are fast my friend... Alakazam with Fire Punch say lol to you but you cant touch it with Fighting types
Medichams SP.attk doesnt suck, you're letting pure power go to your head. Medichams SP.attk is the same as its attack before pure power is put in play.

I dont know the power of my HP ghost. But it took a lot of breeding to get HP ghost.

Anyway, I dont know. About Hariyama, Im sacrificing defense and speed for more HP....

Seeing as hitmonchans defensive stats are good. But I should drop the crappiest
for a special fighter. Wich happens to be hitmonchan. Now, Poliwrath or Blaziken?
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Old June 21st, 2006 (3:19 PM).
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Okay I never devoted myself to one type before. But now I do...

anyway

Heracross:
Trait: Guts
Sleep talk
Rest
Brick Break
Megahorn

This is fine.

Breloom:
Trait:Effect Spore
Spore
Focus Punch
Leech seed
HP Ghost/Substitute

You would at least fill in the last slot with something if you're smart.

Hitmonchan:
Trait:keen eye
Counter
Sky Uppercut/brick break
Rock Slide
HP Ghost (psychic handler)

Hitmonchan needs Rock Slide for Flying-types. I prefer Hitmontop but whatever you want.

Hitmonlee:
Trait: Limber
Earthquake/Return/Filler
Hi Jump Kick
Rock Slide
HP ghost (again)

I'd try sometime like Blaziken or Poliwrath over this.

Medicham:
Trait: Pure Power
Rock Slide
Psychic (I have too many phsyicals as it is)
Hi Jump Kick
Shadow Bal

I guess Psychic is fine with the STAB.

Machamp:
Trait:Guts
Cross Chop (high critical hit ratio)
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Facade

Revenge isn't good because you're not going to get much damage in one battle and Vital Throw is just plain crappy. I'd let a Pokemon paralyze you so Facade can have a 140 BP.

This seems to cover my fighting weaknesses. Flying and Psychic...

Machamp, Hitmonlee and Medicham have rockslide. (flying)

If someone comes at me with fire to pick on Breloom I can switch and earthquake them. Shadow Ball, Megahorn and HP ghost will deal with Psychics. If somebody comes at me with Exeggutor Ill laugh and waste them with Megahorn. Of course normal types die

This is mainly for Battle fronteir or anything else I feel like doing with them
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Old June 21st, 2006 (3:25 PM).
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Medichams SP.attk doesnt suck, you're letting pure power go to your head. Medichams SP.attk is the same as its attack before pure power is put in play.
I agree that its base Atk and SAtk are the same but you forget, without pure power its base is 60, which sucks, SAtks arent going to do much of anything with a base of 60
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I agree. I know that its in-game but the STAB alone won't be enough to cause critical damage. :\
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Why did you say it was fine with a STAB and suddenly changed your opinion?
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Old June 21st, 2006 (3:38 PM).
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Oh dawson...Hitmonchan cant learn rock slide

Unlike hitmonlee
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Lol. Its another noob. He didn't do too bad on rating. :\
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HItmonlee is better than HItmonchan

so I might get a special fighter to replace him
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What are you talking about? Hitmonchan CAN learn Rock Slide through Move Tutor.

He still sucks though.


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What are you talking about? Hitmonchan CAN learn Rock Slide through Move Tutor.

He still sucks though.


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I checked under the wrong move tutuor section. Seeing I got confused with "emerald move tutor" and "emerald/Fire red/Leaf green" tutor.

But anyway I think the only thing that sucks about chan is its HP and SP.attk (who puts SP.attks on him anyway)

HP:50
Attk: 105
Def.:73
:Sp.attak: 35
Sp.Def: 110
Speed: 76.....
Hariyama, has more HP and Attk...than hitmonchan (HP. 144. AttK: 120) But both its defensive stats are 60

But anyway I'm going to get Blaziken because Metagross would love to destroy my team.
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Don't forget that this is an in-game team only. 6 piles of crap can get through the whole game. I suggest that if you TRULY want a challenge, you should keep your Pokes levels no higher than the levels of the gym leaders of each respective area, only use items outside of battle, and don't use the Shift function where it tells you what your opponent's next Poke is and asks if you want to switch. That right is the biggest cheating factor ever left in the game. That should at least make the weak AI semi-competitive.
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I never used the shift function to be honest
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WTH is shift function and what game is it in?
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WTH is shift function and what game is it in?
Shift function is. When you defeat a pokemon, IE. "Leader Flannery is about to use Torkaol. Will (name here) change pokemon???"

Then it asks yes or no...
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Hariyama is vastly underrated, I'd make use of him.

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Nature: Adamant/Careful/Impish
EV: some HP/Def/Sp Def/Att.
Trait: Thick Fat
Vital Throw/Cross Chop/Arm Thrust
Counter
Whirlwind/Knock Off/Fake Out/Return
Knock Off/Rest

Hariyama isn't gonna win any land speed records, so Vital Throw is an option. Enough things use Substitute in the Frontier to make Arm Thrust viable, and if you want pure attack power Cross Chop is there. With high HP and reasonable defences, Counter can help you with Flying types that would give you trouble, Hari can easily take a Dodrio Drill Peck unless it's CBed. Knock Off is very cool and should always be considered, and Rest is always useful for Countering. This setup fails a bit against Psychic types, so be wary of that.
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