Voldemort or Sephiroth?

Started by Sankari July 2nd, 2006 1:53 PM
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Who is the most EEEVIIIL? Sephiroth or Voldemort?

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I thought of this one day after watching Advent Children for the sixth time and reading Harry Potter right after.

In a contest of over all evil-ness, who would win? The head villain in Harry Potter, Voldemort, or the nefarious little Jenova baby from Final Fantasy VII, Sephiroth?

Sephiroth for me. *votes*
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Definitly Sephiroth...he seemed to murder alot of people in the game.
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Well, you could argue that Sephiroth wasn't really 'evil' (he was just insane). I don't really know that much about Voldemort other than that he's the Harry Potter villain and he killed Harry's parents (or something like that), so I really can't make a fair decision here. I must say that FF7 > Harry Potter though.
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I'll say its got to be Sephiroth.
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Does nobody here read Harry Potter??? Well, if you don't you should know that Voldemort's a murderer, he has an extremly long backstory of why he came to do this. He is "racist" and can be compared to Hitler in the sense that Hitler wanted only to have people who were blond and blue eyed (yet he wasn't himself) and Voldemort only wants pure bloods on his side (and he isn't himself, he's half-blood), and will kill anyone who is not. If they refuse to join, they're dead. He's pitiless. Even some of Voldemort's followers were scared of him, he would kill anyone that disobeyed him or "just" torture them. His followers were even scared to go and find him when he had been taken from his body and denied they were faithful to him and went back to they're normal lives. His followers were probably even more scared of him than the rest of the magical community because they denied ever being loyal to him, and he knew that, and they were scared. In the next couple of books one of his followers did one of the plans wrong, so after Lucius was put in Azkaban Voldemort then went and got Lucius's son, Draco, to make him kill Dumbledore for him. Voldemort's plan was that Draco would get killed while trying to do this, never wanting him to succeed, and so Draco dying would be Lucius's punishment for messing up the plan. Draco, obsessed with the Dark Arts, thought it would be great to become a follower, but only realised how much danger he was in half way through the school year. If he wan't killed by Dumbledore, he would be killed by Voldemort...wait, I've completly gone off the point. :laugh:

Voldemort would win. Avada Kedavra to Sephiroth! He could block anything that Sephiroth did and kill him in a second.
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Though Advent Children looks highly entertaining to me, I haven't seen it so I don't really know much about Sephiroth and I'm a HP fan so... Voldemort.

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Jorah, you should've put spoiler tags around that. Some members here might not've known about that in Harry Potter and didn't want to know about it unitl they reached that part.

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I feel slightly soiled for posting here.

The question is who is more evil, kids, not who would win in a fight. In fact, I’m inclined to assume many who voted for Sephiroth did so because he’s of these…these “bishi” things you PC goers seem to revere and worship (and possibly get off to). This alone makes me sad. Large Japanese weaponry and silver hair a good villain does not make.

Who is more evil? Voldemort. I am no great fan of Harry Potter, but to answer this question incorrectly would require two retarded people to procreate and spawn a child whose mind was only a dark void that obliterated any possible chance of intelligence. He MIGHT get this wrong. MIGHT.

Let’s take a gander at their respective careers, shall we? Sephiroth actually helped people for the majority of his life as a top-rank SOLDIER, exterminating monsters and what-not. Only after he learns of Jenova does he turn away from this cause. But does he then wallow in the grim thoughts of pure evil? No. He is consumed by the shadows of madness. Sephiroth is far more insane than he is bad. Insane and traumatized to the point where he believes his path to be a divine course of action that must be traversed to restore balance and enact judgment. Yes, he kills some people on his way and summons a meteor to devastate the planet; evil. I’ll give you that, it was VERY evil, but he did it because he thought he was doing the only right thing (helping his mother) and it was done more out of madness than anything else. Still though, I can’t refute that he is actually a bad guy, just not to the degree his foe in this debate is (the fact that his final attack would have killed him as well and he knew this is enough proof).

Sephiroth is evil, but more so he was insane.

Voldemort, however, just started killing people. He created a sect that killed people. He killed people for the hell of it. Voldemort is actually the blackest of evils, where tortured screams and maimed corpses lie in his wake.

In a battle, who knows? We have no basis for comparison, since the two worlds are completely separate. For all we know, Sephiroth could dispel Avada Kedavra or whatever. I’ll offer no guess to this. I’d say that if Sephiroth leaped out and whacked Voldemort, he’d easily win, but he seems to be the type who doesn’t attack so deceitfully. I’m undecided here.
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Dactylus:

I guess you could say that Voldemort and Sephiroth have two totally different kinds of evil, but exactly who dominates the category is hard to decipher if you put it that way.

Voldemort, as Jorah explained, kills mostly people he despises such as muggle-borns and people like Harry Potter. He chooses who to kill, unlike Sephiroth who just blatantly kills at will. You could say that he is insane, yes, but you could never say he isn't evil. He is definitely that. His type of insanity wasn't just being messed up in the head. You could say he had his mommy's genes.
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Hmm lets see who has the materia and very long sword...thats right no competition AT ALL!

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Hmm lets see who has the materia and very long sword...thats right no competition AT ALL!
Haha, this is exactly the kind of person I was talking about before. But hey, guys, let's not crush his hopes. We'll just humor him. Yes, Chase Leader, having those two items automatically makes one evil. In fact, it's the same reason Cloud is evil. And why Zack was evil. And if you meant he’d win in a fight instead of who is more evil, don’t rule out the ability to kill at will with two words.

Dactylus:

I guess you could say that Voldemort and Sephiroth have two totally different kinds of evil, but exactly who dominates the category is hard to decipher if you put it that way.

Voldemort, as Jorah explained, kills mostly people he despises such as muggle-borns and people like Harry Potter. He chooses who to kill, unlike Sephiroth who just blatantly kills at will. You could say that he is insane, yes, but you could never say he isn't evil. He is definitely that. His type of insanity wasn't just being messed up in the head. You could say he had his mommy's genes.
Actually, I disagree completely. Sephiroth does not blatantly kill at will, to the best of the gamers knowledge. At no time does it even show him having killed anyone after the Library incident except for some Shinra guards and that humongous snake beast. In fact, you visit towns where you're told that he passed through, and it seems that nobody died.

Sephiroth actually kills very sparsely. His evil lies in the fact that, even though he believes it to be the right cause, he wants to kill off the planet.

And I'd say Voldemort kills anyone he wants whenever he wants, since nobody can actually oppose him. We don't know from the books that he mostly killed muggles, just that he hates them. I will say that you're right in saying he chooses many of the targets, and it's that kind of cunning that makes him more powerful.
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I'd have to say Voldemort. I mean, come on... Trying to kill an INFANT?! *laughs* I don't know, really. I haven't done much with Sephiroth, and being an HP junkie since I was in the third grade, Voldemort will always be the utlimate evil...

Plus... How can this be evil...?



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Actually, I disagree completely. Sephiroth does not blatantly kill at will, to the best of the gamers knowledge. At no time does it even show him having killed anyone after the Library incident except for some Shinra guards and that humongous snake beast. In fact, you visit towns where you're told that he passed through, and it seems that nobody died.
Maybe I went a little out of the way when I said "blatantly," but Sephiroth, now that I think about it, is really a lot like Voldemort--they both pretty much kill anyone in their way.

The time in the game that I had in mind was when you first hear that he's near in the Shinra laboratory where you meet RedXIII. Everyone that was in his wake was killed just because he wanted to get to his mother. Madness, but still you'd have to say his madness is not the good kind.

Heh, Nagoyaka-san...Aeris looks like the non-evil one. Sephiroth seems a bit disgruntled o.O' (I thought I killed you...?) *sjirachi*

And remember everyone, this is not a battle in strength! It's a match between who is the most evil and/or the best villain. If you don't know who one or the other is, don't vote for the one you know. There's a reason I made that last option >P

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OMFG, don't you people understand? Voldemort wants to kill some people to make the world a brighter place for other a**holes like himself. Sephiroth wants EVERYONE dead! While he may be a little out of it, he definitely fells compassion for nobody, whereas Voldemort at least wants pureblooded wizards to take over. Sephiroth is the devil in disguise, and he kicks a**. There's no contest. Sephy r00lz!
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I don't really know much about Voldemort but from what I've seen he's just a evil guy who kills people just for himself. Come on that's so basic. Sephiroth's way is way more evil. You can't say he's not evil because he was good once, it's about the time after that.

Sephiroth's way is indeed not mostly about killing but more about striking fear. He let's everyone wonder what he's doing and what he's planning to do. Shrouded in mystery he's basically planning the demise of the whole planet and everything on it.

He uses manipulation to further confuse Cloud and is partly responsible for Cloud's false memory. If letting someone remember a live that he didn't really had and partially "destroying" his live with it isn't evil than i don't know what is.

(fanboy stuff: He killed Aerith so that makes him numbero uno evil.)

Again i don't know really that much about Voldemort so i could be wrong, but I'm just proving that's it not just about long silver hair, cool long swords and fanboy/girl stuff.

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Maybe I went a little out of the way when I said "blatantly," but Sephiroth, now that I think about it, is really a lot like Voldemort--they both pretty much kill anyone in their way.

The time in the game that I had in mind was when you first hear that he's near in the Shinra laboratory where you meet RedXIII. Everyone that was in his wake was killed just because he wanted to get to his mother. Madness, but still you'd have to say his madness is not the good kind.
I agree; both will kill anyone who stands in their way. In that, we can both see the same point. The difference is that Sephiroth ONLY kills people who get in his way; he just doesn’t think anyone else is important enough from what I’ve seen.

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In a contest of over all evil-ness and strength, who would win?
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I don't really know much about Voldemort but from what I've seen he's just a evil guy who kills people just for himself. Come on that's so basic. Sephiroth's way is way more evil. You can't say he's not evil because he was good once, it's about the time after that.

Sephiroth's way is indeed not mostly about killing but more about striking fear. He let's everyone wonder what he's doing and what he's planning to do. Shrouded in mystery he's basically planning the demise of the whole planet and everything on it.

He uses manipulation to further confuse Cloud and is partly responsible for Cloud's false memory. If letting someone remember a live that he didn't really had and partially "destroying" his live with it isn't evil than i don't know what is.

(fanboy stuff: He killed Aerith so that makes him numbero uno evil.)

Again i don't know really that much about Voldemort so i could be wrong, but I'm just proving that's it not just about long silver hair, cool long swords and fanboy/girl stuff.
No, actually, Voldemort (from what I recall) is trying to strip away the current hierarchy and rule the world. Oh, by the way, everybody knows about the holocaust, right? Where one group of people was singled out by a massive military force and slaughtered in only the most horrible of ways? Their bodies left writhing in agony, kept alive only to extend their anguish? Everyone thinks that was evil right?

Yeah, well, Voldemort is trying to do the same thing; a holocaust with muggles and mudbloods.

By the way, I have to say I think you are completely wrong. Sephiroth is not about any of that stuff. Clouds maelstrom of memories is due to being injected with jenova and mako while in close-quarters with Zack. Yes, the Sephiroth who was still frozen in mako crystal (not the one who was running around) manipulated Cloud once to get the materia thing, but nothing more after that. He’s not at all about striking fear and wallowing in mystery, he’s about accomplishing his goals.

Think about it. What has he ever done that pertains to this mystery theory you have? Nothing. He roams through towns and kills people who try to stop him. He walked right into Shinra headquarters and just murdered people who resisted until he got to the president. Then he skewered said president. Very mysterious.

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Voldemort is definetly the more evil. But in a fight, Sephiroth would win. Seriously. FF7's equivalent of Avada Kedavra is Death, which doesn't work on Sephiroth. So, Sephiroth is immune to Avada Kedavra. Also, the curse that allows you to control other people would not work. It's FF7 equivalent is Manipulate, which doesn't affect Sephiroth. Now, Voldemort can easily be killed by Sephiroth in his normal state. As Bizarro Sephiroth, Voldemort is super-screwed, and against Sephiroth's extreme form, Voldemort is done for.

Anyway, like I said, Voldemort is more evil, but Sephiroth could kick his ***!

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