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Old September 13th, 2009 (4:18 AM).
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    hey guyz this game seems good but is there any beta available?
    if there is can i have a link?
    Sorry, no betas yet. There's an old demo but don't get that it's really bad.
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    Fortunately, HGSS, despite giving me a heart attack when I saw this event, doesn't actually ruin our plot too much. It simply ruins a spoiler for people who didn't already know (due to living under a rock of substantial size). There was a major continuity problem that I saw firstly, but in the end an existing major plot point allows that problem to retcon itself without the need for a significant rewrite
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    Old September 17th, 2009 (12:40 PM).
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      I fail to see how you could not change the plot when it explains his story quickly.
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      I fail to see how you could not change the plot when it explains his story quickly.
      What? You want them to change the story because of HGSS?
      If so... then that's stupid. It's a fan game, why should they change their plot? It's not like it's an actual game...
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      Old September 17th, 2009 (2:12 PM).
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        How is that stupid, they are trying to explain what happened to Kamon(which is already explain in HGSS). So the story is now garbage.
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        Old September 17th, 2009 (2:26 PM).
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          How is that stupid, they are trying to explain what happened to Kamon(which is already explain in HGSS). So the story is now garbage.

          No it isn't. This story is separate from the canon of HGSS as it came before it , and remeber this is a fan game. The story can still be explained as they seem fit, unless they want to change it slightly so it can complement the HGSS storyline.
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          Old September 17th, 2009 (2:28 PM).
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            How is that stupid, they are trying to explain what happened to Kamon(which is already explain in HGSS). So the story is now garbage.
            Its the developer's choice to follow the game canon or not. As a fan game, they can do anything they want (within reason). If you're really that worried about the idea, then you can picture it as an alternate reality.
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            Don't be jealous that Acanthite is 100x better then anything you've ever done and ever will do.
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            Old September 17th, 2009 (2:37 PM). Edited September 17th, 2009 by Legendaries.
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              How is that stupid, they are trying to explain what happened to Kamon(which is already explain in HGSS). So the story is now garbage.
              And remember it's GSC prequel. Not HGSS's. GSC story is not clear. Also we can't treat HGSS as true story, it's a game made to be sold, not to tell truth. Examples? Here you are. Mewtwo in Cerulean Cave! WTF? What Red was doing three years ago if he didn't catch it? The same about Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres! Why are they still in Kanto if they were captured by Red? Isn't this story a garbage? It is.
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              Old September 17th, 2009 (5:01 PM).
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                Don't be jealous that Acanthite is 100x better then anything you've ever done and ever will do.
                Get some respect, and a brain.
                I can do better than a damn pokemon game man, seriously. I everyone has a brain retard. And to Legendaries: Doesn't matter where the Pokemon are place, all that matters is the storyline(which is cannon)
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                Not to mention (as I alluded to in my previous post) that I've been able to very easily adapt the backstory developments of the HGSS Celebi event to what happens in Acanthite. HGSS can offer you a short story, Acanthite can offer you a (non-canon) expanded version of the tale that will suggest (non-canon) factors that drive both Silver/Kamon and Giovanni's actions further towards the events that will transpire during the HGSS timeline without dispelling the events of three years ago. Acanthite will neither impede HGSS or contradict it, and nor will HGSS trample on Acanthite's story in such a way. We ignore none of the canon surrounding either character.

                I don't appreciate you guys flaming each other in my thread, either Cheers!
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                Good to hear you've been able to adapt (parts of) the story to the events in HGSS, that would make it seem even more believable. :3
                But I stick to my oppinion: Even if it were to stray far from the "canon" Johto story, the concept of this game's plot is interesting enough to be seen as "canon" in its own way.
                I'm still looking forward to this one. 8D
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                  In relation to HGSS's story and its impact on Acanthite, will the relationship between Argus and Apollo (and the other three Rocket Admins from HGSS) be explained? Will there actually be some sort of of relationship?
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                  Sorry fangking...
                  But Anurhima or whatever. You should just get your racist ass out of this thread and site. It's you people that make problems in the world.


                  Just because HG/SS has explained some things here, doesn't mean Acanthite has to be changed.
                  It's a fan game, it's just for entertainment.
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                  Old September 19th, 2009 (5:08 AM).
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                  Sorry fangking...
                  But Anurhima or whatever. You should just get your racist ass out of this thread and site. It's you people that make problems in the world.


                  Just because HG/SS has explained some things here, doesn't mean Acanthite has to be changed.
                  It's a fan game, it's just for entertainment.
                  I'd really like people not to throw insults in my thread, but ok, cool

                  But as I've said, things HAVE been changed a little bit just so that we don't go against the canon A very minor change that makes everything fit together like a jigsaw.
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                  Old September 19th, 2009 (7:05 AM).
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                    Sorry fangking...
                    But Anurhima or whatever. You should just get your racist ass out of this thread and site. It's you people that make problems in the world.


                    Just because HG/SS has explained some things here, doesn't mean Acanthite has to be changed.
                    It's a fan game, it's just for entertainment.
                    As I said in our chat, I'm black. ANd If I was white, don't you think I would be affended by "you people"?
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                    Old September 19th, 2009 (8:07 AM).
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                    Drop it, the pair of you. My thread, not for your race row. Black, white, lime green, it doesn't matter. Stay on the topic of Acanthite in this thread.
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                    I wanna know if you guys have any sprites done besides the starters, that you're willing to show to the public.
                    I go to your site and just see updated artwork.
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                    Old September 19th, 2009 (8:20 AM). Edited September 19th, 2009 by Andrew McKenzie.
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                      How is that stupid, they are trying to explain what happened to Kamon(which is already explain in HGSS). So the story is now garbage.
                      3 years ago: Kamon(Silver) arguing with his father about Team Rocket. Silver leaves angrily, bumping into Gold(Which would explain why he doesn't seem to like us either when he sees us again in 3 years time).
                      3 years later: Kamon(Silver) has stolen Totodile(I just says Totodile, he's usually associated with it) and is travelling the Johto region and has an obvious hatred for Team Rocket.

                      This does not, in any way, clash with Acanthite's story which is to explain what happened BETWEEN THE TWO THINGS I MENTIONED ABOVE.
                      Only thing that has been let out is the fact that Silver is Giovanni's son, which was pretty much common knowledge if you've read the Pokemon Special(Adventures) Manga and/or actually have a good knowledge of Pokemon and it's characters' backgrounds.
                      If you didn't know Silver was before HGSS and indeed before FRLG, then you've been living under a very large rock, like FangOmega said.

                      Their story is not ruined at all.
                      They're gonna try to establish what happened between within the time of the 3 year gap after Silver gets annoyed and runs off and before he arrives in NewBark to steal his starter.

                      Perfect 3 years to fill with rich content and story.
                      There is no excuse not to continue. You should continue FKO, I believe that Acanthite is in no way tarnished by HGSS' release.

                      Keep up the good work, I look forward to its completetion.

                      EDIT: I must also say, it's rather sad to see Cipher gone. Is he still involved someway in the project or is he just gone?

                      EDIT EDIT: Nevermind. Just noticed he said he's stepping down from moderation duties.
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                        Yes it does clash, why would he be living with a sister, when he should be training in the woods. His father is potrayed as a scientist from what I heard in Acanthite. Why would Argus take control when Giovanni is still the leader when Giovanni is just training.

                        Anyways, he said he maid minor edits, so yeah.
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                          As the event goes.
                          Giovanni disbands team rocket 3 years ago, and is leaving, this is why he is arguing with Silver, because he is choosing to train rather than stay with his son. So his son runs off. Where he goes, no one knows, except that in 3 years, he'll be in Johto.

                          Then the event skips forward 3 years in time, where Giovanni is listening to the broadcast from Team Rocket who have taken over Goldenrod Radio Tower and it is then he decides that he will rejoin them.

                          But then Gold/Kotone(whichever you pick) walks in, with their opposite and you fight Giovanni in a battle, which after he questions his methods and whether it was all a waste of time(again) and then leaves.

                          You are then taken back to your own time in Ilex Forest.

                          That's how the in-game event goes.
                          We know because Serebii himself triggered it in his game by using a Celebi with base stats equal to what you would find in a movie-gift Celebi.

                          This still leaves the 3 year gap between Silver running off and Silver showing up in Johto.
                          So in this 3 year gap, Silver goes to live with his sister(which is of course, FKO's own idea) and a series of events happen that lead up to whatever happens to Silver, causing him to become corrupted and resorting to steal from Elm in 3 years time in Johto.

                          I understand he had to change some parts but they were very minor so it barely affects the story. Let's just stop arguing about it and wait to see what direction FKO takes the project now.
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                            NO, he was left in the woods to train, that is what serebii said. And he did not disband rocket, he left for a short while to train. Which would still make him the leader, just not wanting to be incontrol.

                            But you started up an old topic, let us get on topic of the game.
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                              NO he did disband Team Rocket completely. Giovanni left Silver to rot in Kanto after disbanding Rocket becuase of being beaten by Red. So the whole Giovanni thing can be taken how he wants after that.
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                                Who the hell cares about being cannon? Its a GREAT GAME- Thats what matters.

                                Speaking of which, rough idea when a beta will be released? Its been in dev for a while.
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                                And btw, I must say... the Pokemon in the region look FANTASTIC. I mean, amazing... great great great job.
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                                  ...........And I was griped at on the Acanthite Forums by a mod for not using a spoiler tag when mentioning the Kamon/Giovanni relation.................WHY? Because, apparently, it's been common knowledge to everyone else anyway.... unfortunately, I haven't gotten the chance to read the manga yet, so I had no idea it was already implicated/outright said.

                                  Either way, just glad to know that HGSS didn't screw anything up too badly.
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