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Old October 11th, 2006 (2:51 PM).
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Changes in Bold. Mew with two moves, Lol.
I got it at lv.10 what do you expect, four super duper good moves? Anyways I'm trading it to my cousin because he missed the day it was being given out at TOYS R US.
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Old October 12th, 2006 (2:07 AM).
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I don't like Dodrio so I wouldn't want to evolve it DUH
I don't like Exploud, but I evolved my Whismur-Loudred anyway. Ever heard of the Pokedex?
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Old October 12th, 2006 (2:29 AM).
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I don't like Dodrio so I wouldn't want to evolve it DUH
That's like saying "I want to keep using Magikarp because I don't like Gyarados DUH".

I'd absolutely love to battle you using Dodrio (or even Fearow) against your Pidgeot. It'd be hilarious.
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Is this a good team?

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Rayquaza lv.70 :t384:
crunch
icebeam
dragon dance
dragon claw


just caught it i can tell.


Groudon lv.72:t383:
body slam/rest
Fire Blast
earthquake
Solarbeam
pretty good,groudon needs to know rest because it doesnt have a good defence.
Swampert lv.48:t260:
rock slide/rest
Surf
ice beam
earthquake
my swampert knows those moves,look at my team we have similer pokemon,as for you pokemon,too many HMs same problem min hade=)



Kyogre lv.71:t382:
water spout
Rest
ice beam/blizzard
thunder
good.but dont keep sheer cold its a waste of time.

Pidgeot lv.43:t018:
Quick Attack
Whirlwind
Wing Attack
Featherdance

Mew lv10
i dont know....its up to you[/B]

Can you also rate this Emerald version team?

Charizard lv.99
Flamethrower
wing attack
dragon claw
swords dance


Mew lv.14
Pound
Transform


Pikachu lv.25
thunder bolt
body slam
rest
light screen


Crobat lv.50
Poison Fang
wing attack
bite
im not sure about the last one...


um well not in a mean way,your team is bad,but moveset wise,groudon?cut?no,whats up with the mews?and charizard?too many fire moves.
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Ummmm, can you guys stop nagging Char-char? If he wants to keep Pidgeot on his team, its fine, its his decision, guys. Just rate the goddamn team.
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Old October 13th, 2006 (3:53 AM).
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really i mean my friend has a lv80 pidgeot and it creamed a dodrio its same lv in the battle dome in emerald
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Old October 13th, 2006 (4:57 AM).
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um well not in a mean way,your team is bad,but moveset wise,groudon?cut?no,whats up with the mews?and charizard?too many fire moves.
gold typhlosion, PLEASE stop rating teams. You don't give Dragon Dance to Rayquaza when the other three moves are special. Solarbeam is noobish on Groudon. Don't give Swords Dance to Charizard when it only has one physical move. Pikachu with Rest is lol. I could go on. Please learn more about the game (as well as from suggestions on your own team) before rating others.

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Ummmm, can you guys stop nagging Char-char? If he wants to keep Pidgeot on his team, its fine, its his decision, guys. Just rate the goddamn team.
If you would have read the whole thread, Char-char was trying to justify that Pidgeot was stronger than Dodrio, which it isn't.

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really i mean my friend has a lv80 pidgeot and it creamed a dodrio its same lv in the battle dome in emerald
Once again, you are talking about apples and oranges. In-game, ALL Pokes are weak due to the crappy AI not giving them good movesets or proper EV training. That doesn't change the FACT that Dodrio is stronger. Again, please read the entire thread before commenting.
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um well not in a mean way,your team is bad,but moveset wise,groudon?cut?no,whats up with the mews?and charizard?too many fire moves.
I just cought Groudon and it was like that when it was caught, but I do see your point.I just got the mews and they started out that way, if you think its to much mews then I'm already giving one to my cousin.Ya, I guess my Charizard has to many fire moves,but I just really like my charizard that way, its kind of like how I refuse to use a dodrio and will just use pidgeot even though its not my best pokemon!:laugh: :10: :t005: :t006: :laugh:
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Old October 13th, 2006 (10:13 PM).
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Ummmm, can you guys stop nagging Char-char? If he wants to keep Pidgeot on his team, its fine, its his decision, guys. Just rate the goddamn team.
Dodrio is better then Pidgeot anyway.
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Old October 14th, 2006 (6:02 PM).
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Wow! A lot sure happened in this thread since I was gone.

Its looks like people should listen to people who are pretty decent (some very experienced) players in this thread (I'm referring to Dingbat, aragornbird, shanecdavis, Lugialord, and some others out there including me) about the true facts. Dodrio takes the cake, Pidgeot doesn't, now stop WHINNING!
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Um, I looked in my Pokemon book and It said Pidgeot has better HP and Special Defense than Dodrio. All I think that matters is HP. Pidgeot is more well rounded. Look in the book Pokemon How To Catch 'Em All.

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Old October 16th, 2006 (2:23 AM). Edited October 18th, 2006 by n3croart.
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Um, I looked in my Pokemon book and It said Pidgeot has better HP and Special Defense than Dodrio. All I think that matters is HP. Pidgeot is more well rounded. Look in the book Pokemon How To Catch 'Em All.

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Errr, no. It really matters about defeating the pokemon and over and done with. Dodrio's speed and attack power higher (correct me if i'm wrong). So... I agree Dodrio is better. End of story.
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Old October 16th, 2006 (3:39 AM). Edited October 16th, 2006 by Arsibiyez.
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Yeah, it's true... Pidgeot DOES have higher HP and SDef than Dodrio, according to their base statlines. But here's the fact: Pidgeot has no Special Resistances anyway (besides a few grass and bug moves). So that higher SDef (which is not really that HIGH to begin with) is pretty much useless. And even if Pidgeot's HP is higher (which is, once again, not really that high to begin with) its popularly used weaknesses (Ice, Rock, Electric) will easily knock it out. Bird Pokemon are more effective as Physical Sweepers, requiring high Atk and high Spd -- both of which Dodrio has better of.

There is no argument. Dodrio is better than Pidgeot when it comes to efficiency. BUT it doesn't mean that Pidgeot isn't a good Pokemon itself. It is sad that Pidgeot's most powerful naturally-learned move is Wing Attack with 60AP. Dodrio's best is Drill Peck with 80AP. (My personal favorite for Dodrio is Tri-Attack which also has 80AP.)

So, I guess all Pidgeot needs is a differently styled moveset. Possibly give it an Annoyer role with the following moveset.

Pidgeot @ Brightpowder
Jolly Nature
Toxic
Double Team
Fly
Featherdance/Protect

(At least that's how MY annoyer Pidgeot would look like if I had one. Featherdance is a commendable move, in my opinion. It would give Pidgeot better staying ability against RS users. This Pokemon's only problems would be ThunderDancers, HailBlizzers, LockZappers, Shockwavers, and ALL steel-types. That's a giant "OUCH" in my book.)

I'm probably not helping at all in any way. Ignore me. I haven't used a Pidgeot since my RBY days. ;_;
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LOL It looks as though Char-Char is recruiting friends to try to plead their case. As Tail Glow stated, and which I have already stated, there are only two stats that matter when it comes to Normal/Flying-types like Pidgeot and Dodrio. That is Atk and Spd. Normal/Flying-types need to attack first and attack hard because they will not last long. Even with Pidgeot's marginally better defenses and better HP, it still goes down to Ice Beam, Rock Slide, and Thunderbolt just as easily as Dodrio does.

Once again, not only are Dodrio's Spd and Atk higher than Pidgeot's, but it also learns a more powerful move in Drill Peck that Pidgeot can't. As an example of the difference, a Lv100 Dodrio and Lv100 Pidgeot with Adamant Nature and 252 EV points in Atk and holding Choice Band are both attacking a Lv100 Steelix with +Def nature and 252 EV points in HP and Def. A Pidgeot with Aerial Ace will do max damage of 31 points. A Dodrio with Drill Peck will do max damage of 50 points. Now, to those not familiar with the game might think that isn't a big difference, but when you consider that you are attacking a Steel/Rock-type, that 19 points is HUGE.

Let's use a better example. Instead of Steelix, lets use a Lv100 Snorlax with the same nature and stats. Snorlax can be quite formidable, especially once it gets a Curse under its belt. Okay, let's compare again. Pidgeot with AA will do max damage of 131. Not bad. Well, until we attack with a Dodrio. That Dodrio with Drill Peck will do max damage of 214. Even after Snorlax uses Curse once, DP will still do max damage of 144, which is still higher than Pidgeot's damage without Curse.

To drive the point home, let's compare attacks on a Lv100 Venusaur that doesn't have a +Def nature or EVs in Def or HP. Typical in-game Poke. A Pidgeot with AA does max damage of 219, that will not KO Venusaur. Dodrio with DP though, will do max damage of 355 and yes, that will KO Venusaur. That is a 134 point diffrerence.

You contend that Pidgeot's higher defenses and HP make it better? Let's try this one out. Both birds are going up against a Lv100 Charizard with the same item, nature, and Evs that they do (Choice Band, Adamant nature, and max Evs in Atk and Spd, if you have forgotten). The attack on Dodrio will do max damage of 319. Ouch. Nite, nite Dodrio. Your Pidgeot with the better defenses and HP? Charizard's Rock Slide does max damage of 302. Yes, those "better" stats save Pidgeot SEVENTEEN whopping points of damage. The bigger difference here is that while Pidgeot's base Spd tops at 91, meaning it will always attack second when facing a Charizard, Dodrio's base Spd is 100, the same as Charizard, meaning it has a 50% chance of attacking first. Not only that, but if Dodrio does attack first it will do max damage of 279 points, seriously messing up Charizard's day, Ko'ing it if it has a -Def nature.

So, if you still cannot see the FACTS laid before you then I will just say good day to you.
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Old October 18th, 2006 (12:55 PM).
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I got it at lv.10 what do you expect, four super duper good moves? Anyways I'm trading it to my cousin because he missed the day it was being given out at TOYS R US.
Then you can do the cloning glitch to clone your Mew so you both get one. hehe.
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Then you can do the cloning glitch to clone your Mew so you both get one. hehe.
I already did it with my Charizard!I already have 2 Mews with 1, as you know I'm trading to my cousin. 1 Mew is enough for me, you know, they're not as good as you expect them to be.
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I already did it with my Charizard!I already have 2 Mews with 1, as you know I'm trading to my cousin. 1 Mew is enough for me, you know, they're not as good as you expect them to be.
I guess it's all down to the trainer.
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I guess it's all down to the trainer.
Yep, that's how some trainers and don't take the advice.
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Er. Don't mind me asking a noobish question >< ...what's quakeslide? and Bolt-beam combo.. (mentioned by shanecdavis and Lapras1016)
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Er. Don't mind me asking a noobish question >< ...what's quakeslide? and Bolt-beam combo.. (mentioned by shanecdavis and Lapras1016)
Bolt-Beam: Is when a pokemon knows the moves: Ice Beam & Thunderbolt

Quake-Slide: I think it's Earthquake & Rockslide.
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oh...I thought there was a combo or something when the two moves were put together. haha. thanks anyway =)
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Maybe when pokemon Diamond and Pearl come out someone will trade me a Dodrio and I'll battle against my cousin and hope he has a Pidgeot the same level as the Dodrio. I will get to see which is better.
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Is this a good team?

Rayquaza lv.70 :t384:
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Surf


Groudon lv.72:t383:
Bulk Up
Earthquake
Overheat
Brick Break


Swampert lv.48:t260:
Curse
Rest
Earthquake
HP Flying


Kyogre lv.71:t382:
Calm Mind
Thunder
Ice Beam
Surf


Pidgeot lv.43:t018:
Toxic
Whirlwind
Featherdance
Aerial Ace

Mew lv.10
Calm Mind
Psychic
Flamethrower
Hidden Power Dark

Really, you've just handed out TM's and HM's Willy Nilly. I reccomend you try and think of a strategy, as that'd help
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Maybe when pokemon Diamond and Pearl come out someone will trade me a Dodrio and I'll battle against my cousin and hope he has a Pidgeot the same level as the Dodrio. I will get to see which is better.
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