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Old November 18th, 2006 (1:44 PM). Edited December 1st, 2006 by Superkid11.
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Yep, I'm doing themes now. This is a dragon-themed team I made. Rate and give advice to your heart's content.


===Current Team===

Kingdra (F) @ Leftovers ** Liu
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 132 Def / 252 SAtk / 126 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
- Surf
- Toxic

Charizard (M) @ Salac Berry ** Johnny
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Belly Drum
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Overheat
- Substitute

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Elvarg
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 136 HP / 232 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew ** Laa
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 156 Spd / 192 SAtk / 160 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Claw
- Recover
- Safeguard

Steelix (M) @ Leftovers ** Shine
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 251 HP / 48 Atk / 76 Def / 135 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Roar
- Substitute

Sceptile (M) @ Leftovers ** Ziggy
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 51 HP / 228 Spd / 228 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Leaf Blade
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
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Old team:
Charizard (M) @ Salac Berry ** Johnny
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 24 Atk / 244 Spd / 240 SAtk
Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Fire Blast
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute

(That charizard was the only difference between this and my current team. I also lead with it.)
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Old November 18th, 2006 (9:21 PM).
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Yep, I'm doing themes now. This is a dragon-themed team I made. Rate and give advice to your heart's content.

Charizard (M) @ Salac Berry / Lefties ** Johnny
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 24 Atk / 244 Spd / 240 SAtk
Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Kingdra (F) @ Leftovers ** Liu
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 132 Def / 252 SAtk / 126 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
- Surf
- Toxic

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Elvrag
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 136 HP / 232 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Rock Slide
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew ** Laa
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 156 Spd / 192 SAtk / 160 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Recover
- Ice Beam

Your set is outdated. Too predictable.

Steelix (M) @ Leftovers ** Shine
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 251 HP / 48 Atk / 76 Def / 135 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Substitute
- Toxic

meh...

Sceptile (M) @ Leftovers ** Ziggy
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 51 HP / 228 Spd / 228 SAtk
Timid / Modest Nature
- Leaf Blade
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Thunderpunch
Changes in Bold. Have a nice day.
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Old November 19th, 2006 (2:52 AM).
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dont lead with charizard. lead with salamence.
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Old November 19th, 2006 (2:47 PM).
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I am loling Lugialord suggest Latias withouth Dragon Claw way to go champ!
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Old November 21st, 2006 (9:46 PM).
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I am loling Lugialord suggest Latias withouth Dragon Claw way to go champ!
Errr... the moveset Superkid11 posted is way outdated. It's also predictable. So yeah.
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Old November 22nd, 2006 (7:23 AM).
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Pssssst. Mullet was making fun of you for Latias NOT having Dragon Claw, which it should.
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Old November 23rd, 2006 (5:16 PM).
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Just 'cause it's predictable or "outdated" doesn't mean it doesn't own. Which it has. Yeah they can bring in a Heracross or something but any Latias would get destroyed by that.

I've come accross other Latias movesets and they got quick owned by mine...

This is unrelated, but after arguing with a rather obnoxious admin on Smogon U named "lumberry", I got permabanned from that server. x_x So I'm sticking to smaller servers like Pokerealm or Nsider Arena.
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Old November 23rd, 2006 (5:22 PM). Edited November 30th, 2006 by Pazuzu.
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Your team has a Dragon Claw weak btw LOL.

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew **
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd / 176 SAtk / 80 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Claw
- Recover
- Thunder

This sweeps your team. ^_^
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Old November 23rd, 2006 (5:41 PM).
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I need safeguard to ruin status problem inflicters like Blissey.

I actually managed to stall and beat a Blissey with my Latias... Safeguard, Calm mind, recover when HP gets low, calm mind more, safeguard again. Max calm minding is gonna 2hko Blissey.
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Old November 23rd, 2006 (9:33 PM).
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I need safeguard to ruin status problem inflicters like Blissey.

I actually managed to stall and beat a Blissey with my Latias... Safeguard, Calm mind, recover when HP gets low, calm mind more, safeguard again. Max calm minding is gonna 2hko Blissey.
Yeah becuase without Safeguard Toxic ****s you. I just have a Cleric though, I lose my CMs but Latias is my Kyorge counter on my Uber team so I need Thunder.
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Old November 29th, 2006 (2:10 AM).
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Just 'cause it's predictable or "outdated" doesn't mean it doesn't own. Which it has. Yeah they can bring in a Heracross or something but any Latias would get destroyed by that.

I've come accross other Latias movesets and they got quick owned by mine...
(Based on bold part) When you send out Latias, folks would know 'bout that set. Your Latias will end up, like this:

+___________+

Man, wouldn't want that... meh
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Old November 29th, 2006 (4:38 AM).
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The other version is just as known, Lugialord, and that is what you are not getting. I would much rather have the version that is more effective (what you term as "outdated").
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Old November 29th, 2006 (2:14 PM).
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The other version is just as known, Lugialord, and that is what you are not getting. I would much rather have the version that is more effective (what you term as "outdated").
.. So you take it as 'power'. Okay. Then how are you to protect and keep 'Latias' in play, other then faint or a revival.

P.S. Why did Mullet get banned?
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Old November 29th, 2006 (2:58 PM).
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P.S. Why did Mullet get banned?
He told a s-mod his opinion was void iirc.
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Old November 29th, 2006 (3:43 PM).
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Oh, I though he was warned for that? Oh well.

Pretty good team overall.
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Old December 1st, 2006 (12:32 PM). Edited December 1st, 2006 by Superkid11.
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Okay, I made a change to the team. I'm not leading with Charizard anymore. It's much more effective out of the lead... especally because I've turned it into a Bellyzard.

Top post has been edited.

And I'm keeping Brick Break on Salamence because it wipes out Snorlax and Blissey pretty easily. I WOULD go with Rock Slide but... its inaccuracy just bugs me.
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If you are leading with Salamence, I would use CBmence instead.

Salamence @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace/HP [Flying]
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- HP [Rock]/Rock Slide

The accuracy of RS might be frustrating at times, but the flinching is VERY nice.
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Brick Break? I used it to kill, but ends up only a few pokes to elimate. So... I wouldn't suggest Brick Break.
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You can always use fire blast over bb.
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Old December 1st, 2006 (4:27 PM).
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You can always use fire blast over bb.
yea, thats IMO as well. i like fire blast.
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Old December 1st, 2006 (4:31 PM).
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Just depends on the weaknesses your team has and what to exploit.
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Just depends on the weaknesses your team has and what to exploit.
maybe bb probably is fine for this guys team.
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Old December 1st, 2006 (4:33 PM).
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Brick Break? I used it to kill, but ends up only a few pokes to elimate. So... I wouldn't suggest Brick Break.
That is because you don't know how to use it.
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Old December 1st, 2006 (9:37 PM).
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Well Rock Slide's really there to counter stuff like Zapdos or Areodactyl. Or other Salamence. But that's what I have Steelix, Sceptile, and most importantly, Latias for. ;)
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yea you just point your mouse over the brick break icon and click it >.>
 

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