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Old December 11th, 2006 (1:30 PM).
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Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 180 Spd / 76 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunder

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 132 HP / 192 Atk / 52 Def / 4 Spd / 64 SAtk / 64 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Body Slam
- Fire Blast
- Focus Punch
- Selfdestruct

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 196 HP / 16 Def / 136 Spd / 160 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Toxic
- Wish

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 2 Atk / 216 Def / 40 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 228 HP / 252 Def / 28 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 180 HP / 188 Atk / 140 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide
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Old December 11th, 2006 (2:01 PM).
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OU.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 180 Spd / 76 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunder

Gar doesnt need that much attack since it cant really dent anything but bliss and Celebi, put more in Special Attack

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 132 HP / 192 Atk / 52 Def / 4 Spd / 64 SAtk / 64 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Shadow Ball
- Fire Blast
- Counter
- Selfdestruct
no speed needed on lax, Shadow Ball>Body Slam (or Gar walls it) and Counter>Focus Punch IMO

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 196 HP / 16 Def / 136 Spd / 160 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Toxic
- Wish

Meh, cant help with this =/


Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 2 Atk / 216 Def / 40 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb/Will-o-Wisp
- Thunderbolt/Will-o-Wisp

This Weezing cant scare off CBers because it has no will-o-wisp, it cant dent Blissey cause it doesnt have enough Attack EVs to damage it and cant dent Skarm because it doesnt have enough SpAttack EVs to damage it.


Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 228 HP / 252 Def / 28 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf

Too much Defense not enough Special Defense.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 180 HP / 188 Atk / 140 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide
Max out attack, less HP
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Old December 12th, 2006 (11:27 AM).
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Gar doesnt need that much attack since it cant really dent anything but bliss and Celebi, put more in Special Attack
Snorlax says hi.

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no speed needed on lax, Shadow Ball>Body Slam (or Gar walls it) and Counter>Focus Punch IMO
Lol Counter. I will need to be at full HP to have a chance to survive a physical hit, so it won't really be that effective.
Gar doesn't wall Fire Blast Lax, as it breaks it's Sub.

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Meh, cant help with this =/
Only heard of standard wallable and predictable DDmence/CBmence, have you? Wishmence ftw.

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This Weezing cant scare off CBers because it has no will-o-wisp, it cant dent Blissey cause it doesnt have enough Attack EVs to damage it and cant dent Skarm because it doesnt have enough SpAttack EVs to damage it.
Milotic says hi.
It outstalls Blissey with Pain Split. Skarm doesn't stay in once it sees I have Thunderbolt.

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Meh, it lets me survive some stuff.
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Old December 12th, 2006 (2:40 PM).
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Snorlax says hi.
Not with a sub up it doesnt



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Lol Counter. I will need to be at full HP to have a chance to survive a physical hit, so it won't really be that effective.
Gar doesn't wall Fire Blast Lax, as it breaks it's Sub.
Counter at against starter pokes will OHKO iirc, then Boom after that

Lol, F-Blast's limited PP


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Only heard of standard wallable and predictable DDmence/CBmence, have you? Wishmence ftw.
No, I use speical mence somtimes, btw. I just never see myself using it cause I rarely use Modded moves

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Milotic says hi.
It outstalls Blissey with Pain Split. Skarm doesn't stay in once it sees I have Thunderbolt.
Yes, Milotic going to wall it either way with no sp.attack evs to actually hurt it. Skarm doesnt take enough from T-bolt to switch out right away,letting it put down another set of spikes. And btw, Skarm outspeeds Weezing, letting Skarm rest either way


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Meh, it lets me survive some stuff.
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Old December 13th, 2006 (1:31 AM).
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Metagross @ Leftovers
EV's: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Agility
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
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Old December 13th, 2006 (6:08 AM).
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Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 180 Spd / 76 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunder

Ok, it works I guess, but I don't really see what this is doing compared to other Gengar's. Thunderbolt for sure as it dies to lots of stuff especiall with -Def.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 132 HP / 192 Atk / 52 Def / 4 Spd / 64 SAtk / 64 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Body Slam
- Fire Blast
- Focus Punch
- Selfdestruct

^________^

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 196 HP / 16 Def / 136 Spd / 160 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Toxic
- Wish

I like Protect myself, but whatever floats your boat. Protect means you can get the Wish and Protect against the Ice Beam.

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 2 Atk / 216 Def / 40 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb
- Thunderbolt

WoW please, over Thunderbolt is best. If you do that make sure to Impish nature it as you want that extra speed. I use Explosion on my Weezing

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 228 HP / 252 Def / 28 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf

Interesting, Suicune resttalks much better than Milotic though, so maybe try it out, or use a different set.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 180 HP / 188 Atk / 140 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide

No Adamant because why?


I believe this is the team that beat me in SPPF OU, except different Milo set.
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Old December 13th, 2006 (7:52 PM). Edited December 13th, 2006 by Cornicapus.
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Old December 14th, 2006 (4:47 AM).
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this is for netbattle, it isnt like we spend time to get this ingame

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Old December 14th, 2006 (1:04 PM). Edited December 14th, 2006 by Levski.
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Yeah rekt that's the team. I had HP Electric on Sala and HP Grass on Milo, that's the only difference.

And changed Metagross;


Metagross @ Choice Band ** m455 p4n1c
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 116 HP / 176 Atk / 88 Def / 128 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide


I really don't like Milo coming in on Wow's, I might try it though.

And Sala is now;

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Gnib
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 232 HP / 57 Def / 121 Spd / 100 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Wish
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Old December 15th, 2006 (1:29 AM).
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this is for netbattle, it isnt like we spend time to get this ingame

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i do.. lol

salamence and metagross Evd so far.. 124 hours of play.. :P
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Old December 15th, 2006 (2:23 AM).
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Yeah rekt that's the team. I had HP Electric on Sala and HP Grass on Milo, that's the only difference.

And changed Metagross;


Metagross @ Choice Band ** m455 p4n1c
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 116 HP / 176 Atk / 88 Def / 128 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide


Much better. CBgross.

And Sala is now;

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Gnib
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 232 HP / 57 Def / 121 Spd / 100 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide
good ... ...
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Old December 15th, 2006 (9:22 AM).
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Yeah rekt that's the team. I had HP Electric on Sala and HP Grass on Milo, that's the only difference.

And changed Metagross;


Metagross @ Choice Band ** m455 p4n1c
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 116 HP / 176 Atk / 88 Def / 128 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide

CB likes Max Attack

I really don't like Milo coming in on Wow's, I might try it though.
Marvel Scale maybe?

And Sala is now;

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Gnib
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 232 HP / 57 Def / 121 Spd / 100 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Wish
More like Timid. Protect works better over HP Grass/Dragon Claw. Though Wish/Protect/Flamethrower/Toxic works the best for a Wish set IMO.
People should stop fearing Swampert switching in, goodness.
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Old December 15th, 2006 (10:42 AM).
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Lugialord do you understand that I don't need/want a DDmence/CBmence?

Max attack isn't that needed on CBmence, it does a good deal of damage without it. And what about Marvel Scale, did you understand that that's why I don't like WoW?

I was considering Protect, still thinking about it. I usually pass the Wishes to other Pokemon. HP Grass is awesome.
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Old December 15th, 2006 (12:15 PM). Edited December 15th, 2006 by shanecdavis.
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Putting more EVs in Atk is more effective for Metagross than spreading it out over multiple stats.

Protect allows Salamence to do both.

BTW - Synch, I think he was talking about not wanting WoW on Weezing because that usual means Milotic shows up. He just didn't word it very well.
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Old December 15th, 2006 (1:43 PM).
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I'll put more Atk on Meta.

I don't know what to remove on Salamence for Protect, though. And yeah, I suppose I didn't word that in the best way possible.
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Old December 15th, 2006 (3:10 PM).
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Putting more EVs in Atk is more effective for Metagross than spreading it out over multiple stats.

Protect allows Salamence to do both.

BTW - Synch, I think he was talking about not wanting WoW on Weezing because that usual means Milotic shows up. He just didn't word it very well.
Ah, much better.
An additional Metagross note:

400+ Atk is a very important factor on Metagross, especially since weezing can BARELY take two consecutive STABed Meteor Mashes. It's not really a factor of doing a good amount of damage, its about making sure you demolish your opponent when you DO inflict damage. Also gets a nice 70%ish damage on Skarm after Explosion.

200-205 Speed is really all that's needed.

Any leftover EVs can go into HP and Def, mainly HP.
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