3rd Gen Which would you choose?

Started by Shadow Weavile December 18th, 2006 10:16 AM
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Hey there!

Whoever you choose is much based on personal fancy.

I tend to dislike Fire Pokemon (sorry to all you fire lovers out there!), and I in turn adore Water and Ground types. So I naturally chose Mudkip.

But as far as the BEST pick goes, that would have to be Midkip. He'll be the most useful at the early Gyms, especially the electric one (Wattson's his name, if I remember).

Although Torchick's final evolution tends to be the strongest. So by all means choose him! Just make sure you pick up a Marril or a Wingull so you can take down Roxanne withough much trouble.
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I tend to choose the water type so naturally Mudkip is my pick. It rocks against most Gym Leaders, Team Magna and the E4. But all of the starters have there weaknesses.

Blaziken: Water, Flying and Psychic

Swampert: 2X Grass

Skeptile: Fire and Flying
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Blaziken doesn't have the highest stats, Swampert does. Also, out of the three starters, Swampert is the only one that can cover its weakness (Ice Beam). Not only that, but Swampert is the only one who can get its best moveset before the Weak5. Sceptile and Blaziken have to wait until the Move Tutors at Battle Frontier (if you even have Emerald) to get theirs. Swampert is hands down the best starter ever. Will one of the three stupid DP starters end up being better? We will see.
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Mudkip is definitely best, he has no weaknesses at any of the gyms and grows fast. If it;s about moves and coolness, I'd choose Treecko. He learns useful attacks and is just my favorite starter xD


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I like Sceptile and Swampert so I always pick Treecko in one version and Mudkip in the other version (BTW I only play S & E out of the 3)

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I agree. Good stats and type. Plus there aren't alot of great grass pokemon out there...
Actually, I think there are plenty of BETTER grass pokemon out there. I prefer Victreebell, personally, but he's not available in E/R/S... so I tend to go with Vileplume; they both tend to be special attack tanks either way.

I'd say a good fire type is much harder to come by in E/R/S.
In my opinion, Torkoal is the best non-starter fire pokemon you can get, and that ain't saying much; the guy's slower than molasis in January. Maybe Camperupt (I think that's his name) is another good one. But that's about it, sadly.

In E/R/S, good water pokemon are a dime a dozen, so if you'd like a decent fire pokemon on your team, I'd choose Blaziken. But I don't like fire anyways, so my opinion flies out the window. :-)
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Mudkip has to be the one for me. However im not saying this because its a personal favourit of mine its because of the fact that its final evolution swampert happens to be the strongest stat based pokemon of the three last evolutions of the starting pokemon. Also Swampert has the capability of managing to cover its own weakness so therefore proving that it is the best starter in hoenn that you could possibly start with. However if your really not a great fan of water pokemon and really just cannot be forced into picking it then i would strongly advise to consider torchic next then treecko.

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Mudkip. but eventually, I will get all three anyway.
However Shadow Weavil may not have that advantage so thats why he/she is probably requesting advice in which is the best starter to choose.

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Treeko is awesome. Sceptile has awesome speed, and Leaf Blade is better than Blaze Kick or Muddy Water by 50x
Actually, Swampert's best move it learns is Earthquake (100 AP), which is much better than Leaf Blade (70 AP).

The bottom line is that people can choose Treecko or Torchic because they look cool, or they want a challenge, but the best starter that can get you through the game the easiest and that can have the best moveset when you reach the Elite Four (Weak Five) is Mudkip.

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Actually, Swampert's best move it learns is Earthquake (100 AP), which is much better than Leaf Blade (70 AP).

The bottom line is that people can choose Treecko or Torchic because they look cool, or they want a challenge, but the best starter that can get you through the game the easiest and that can have the best moveset when you reach the Elite Four (Weak Five) is Mudkip.
He was comparing it to Swampert's exclusive move. Sceptile can also learn Earthquake, but with no STAB. Treecko is actually very helpful early in the game. If youll take a look though,
Sidney=Dark
Fighting is + against dark
That 3rd one=Ice
Steven=Steel
Fire is + against ice and steel


While Swampert's Ice Beam poses a threat for Steven's Cladol, Drake, and Sidney's 2 grass types, there is not much else it can do to help
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What does a signature move have to do with which Poke a person should choose? A good trainer will pick the one that is most effective. A STAB Earthquake from Swampert does more damage to more Pokes than anything the other two starters can do.

As for your attempt to make a case for Blaziken in the Weak5, you are not taking into account the following:

- Against Sidney, Swampert can handle all of them using IB against the Grass-types, and EQ against the others.

- Against Phoebe, Swampert sweeps through using EQ.

- Against Glacia, Swampert has a tougher time but EQ still works.

- Drake is a no-brainer.

- You also battle Wallace in EMERALD, not Steven, although Swampert also does very well against Steven, moreso than Wallace.

The fact is that Blaziken and Sceptile both run into big time problems with certain gyms and certain Weak5 members, while Swampert rolls through everything. Plus, as I said before, Swampert can achieve its most effective moveset (Earthquake/Ice Beam/Rest or Protect/Surf) BEFORE the Weak5, both Blaziken (Flamethrower or Fire Blast/Rock Slide/Sky Uppercut/Swords Dance) and Sceptile (Leaf Blade/Leech Seed/Substitute/Thunderpunch) have to wait until you get to the Battle Frontier and earn enough Battle Points to get theirs. Then there is the typing. Swampert easily has the best typing (Water/Ground) that negates one of Water-type's biggest weaknesses (Electric) and also learns a terific move to cover its only weakness (Ice Beam vs. Grass-types). Blaziken is weak to Flying/Ground/Psychic/Water (ouch!) and Sceptile is weak to Bug/Fire/Flying/Ice/Poison (again, ouch!). Not to mention the fact that Swampert is strong enough defensively to be a decent tank and take a few hits.

As I said before, people can choose Treecko or Torchic because they look cool or want a challenge, but for the means of picking the best and most effective starter (especially in-game), it is Swampert.
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I usually choose the grass types, Bulbasaur and Chickarita, but this time I chose Torchic just because he's the coolest looking, and I found that the other two's third form were really stupid looking and the water one looked kind of weak compared to Blastoise and the Giant Alligator from Gold/Silver.