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Old December 20th, 2006 (8:45 PM). Edited December 20th, 2006 by it_landry.
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i am makin' a new list of the under-rated/rarely used list, so far i have Muk, Kingler, Hitmonlee, and if i can catch one , a Tauros... i just can't think of 2 other under-rated/rarely used Pokèmon for the list... any suggestions?
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Tauros is overused.

See the thing about tiers is, you must take in consideration, not only the use of the pokemon as far as you've seen it (especially since some see certain pokemon used than others) but the stats as well. Tauros's excellent speed and offense make it a very good CBer, and is actually used more than you think making it an ideal OU pokemon. Try to look at existing tiers such as at Smogon and PokeRealm before you compose your own tiers.
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Rapidash is a good choice( or ninetales or arcanine )
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Old December 21st, 2006 (8:30 AM).
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okay... i know what your saying Synchronize, but i was basing it on the NetBattler servers, i've only seen 2 Tauros used on the servers, and thats not counting me...

and thanks peabobo, i think i shall use Rapidash...
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Rapidash is rarely used and Kangaskhan too.
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oh... and marowak is another non-often used pokemon
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oh... and marowak is another non-often used pokemon
You've got to be kidding...Marowak is dead OU because of the godly Attack it gets with Thick Club. Please get your facts straight. -.-

Concerning the actual list...do recall that there are two distinct tiers in play here, UU and NU. So yeah, check out the existing lists first. Generally underused ones include Furret, Hypno, Tangela, Relicanth, Victreebel, Vileplume, Clefable, Wigglytuff, Xatu, Girafarig, Shedinja, Banette, and Pelipper, just to name a few. And of course, all the unevolved pokémon are neglected in use, as are pathetically weak ones like Luvdisc.
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soo what you are saying is, that beduse you like it, it is exempt from the list?
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soo what you are saying is, that beduse you like it, it is exempt from the list?
No. Please try not to act like a twit if you can help it. -.-

I'm saying that it's unqualified to be called underused because its potential stats are far too high. It's about as UU as Mew (How many teams with Mew do you see about? Not many because the uber metagame isn't all that popular), yet Mew clearly isn't underused. Please get your facts straight or keep quiet. I don't even like using Marowak. <.<
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Then why did you even say anything about my post?
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Then why did you even say anything about my post?
Okay, are you even reading the post before you comment on them? I'm saying that Marowak isn't fit to be an UU (like you claimed it should be) because it's too strong and too commonly used for that. Just because I don't like the thing personally it doesn't mean that I'd allow it to be falsely categorized. :\

Was that clear enough or do I need to type it big, bolded, underlined letters so you won't miss it?
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I am reading the posts before I post. This conversation is pointless.
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Chill, people. Why do you have to get so hyped up about every little bit in this forum? o_O

Explain things clearly, so that even newbs can understand them, and try reading things carefully, so others don't have to repeat the same thing over and over again.
Basicly that's all you have to do to avoid these situations.

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True...sorry about this mess, I should really have known better. :embarrass

Well, it won't happen again. Ignore list to the rescue.

Oh, and on the topic of underused ones...Sunflora, Glalie, Aggron, Raichu, and Pinsir also belong there, definitely, and - unless I'm much mistaken - so does Lanturn.
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I have to disagree with Aggron being on your list. I know alot of people who use Aggron. But with the rest, yes, you pinpointed it.
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I have to disagree with Aggron being on your list. I know alot of people who use Aggron. But with the rest, yes, you pinpointed it.
And yet, no competitive battler would use Aggron outside UU due to having a double weakness against Ground and Fighting type moves, and every physical sweeper either has a Fighting or Ground type move. While its typing stops it from staying in play against physical attackers, its horrible Sp.Defense stops it from being able to take hits from special attacks.

Aggron might have a great movepool and good Attack, Defense and HP, but its horrible type combination stops it from being any real threat to most OUs. Sure it can dish out alot of damage, but that doesn't help when Starmie, Snorlax, Tyranitar, Milotic and Zapdos, only to name a few, completely own it before it can do a thing. If you even after this think Aggron should be considered OU, or even BL, I honestly don't know what to say. ._.
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I think we'll all agree that you'll have to listen to me in the post right here:

If your tier is based soley on how often you see pokemon used, the tier will fail in the eyes of the general battler. I'm sure you could have a server full of people that use Arbok every day, but the fact of the matter is that a good, solid tier takes consideration of stats as well. For example, what if you never saw Salamence (although thats highly unlikely) except for once in a whole month? If you decided to use that as a basis for Salamence being UU or NU, you'd have a pokemon that would sweep both metagames and pretty much be broken. The key to a good metagame is to make sure things are balanced so no single pokemon gets a chance to screw the whole metagame.
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That actually made sense. I think that it definitely depends on what your strategy is (Defensive, Offensive, Both, etc.)
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Magikarp is under used too.

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no, if there is 1 person who uses it, it is OU.
thats how badly it sucks
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Anyway a real underused pokemon I'd reccomend is any fossil pokemon.

Kabuto & Kabutops
Omanyte & evo (whats it's name)
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Anorith & Armaldo
Lileep & Cradily
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Omastar is the evo. and they are relatively underused
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Just another 1, Noctowl.
Underused too and has part as the Bird FC I don't like that.
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Ditto is an underused pokémon. ^_~
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I think we'll all agree that you'll have to listen to me in the post right here:

If your tier is based soley on how often you see pokemon used, the tier will fail in the eyes of the general battler. I'm sure you could have a server full of people that use Arbok every day, but the fact of the matter is that a good, solid tier takes consideration of stats as well. For example, what if you never saw Salamence (although thats highly unlikely) except for once in a whole month? If you decided to use that as a basis for Salamence being UU or NU, you'd have a pokemon that would sweep both metagames and pretty much be broken. The key to a good metagame is to make sure things are balanced so no single pokemon gets a chance to screw the whole metagame.
i see what ya mean Synchronize... i know what your saying, the thinkg about that is, i don't have a real startegy for my list, my lists are made to throw off my opponents strategies... i give moves that my opponent won't expect... my best example is i game my dark type, i give them a psychic type attack to protect agaisnt fighters... if my pokemon has a weakness, you can be sure that i will have a counter messuare up my sleeve with out having to swap out, well that and suprises like the fact that my Muk is faster then most elctric types of 5+ his lvl... but for this list, i want to use the Pokèmon that you don't really ever see in use... just for a change of pace...
 

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