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Old December 21st, 2006 (9:13 AM).
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ALL LEVEL 50

Aggron
Iron Tail
Earthquake
Shock Wave
Rock Tomb


Blaziken
Blake Kick
Slash
Strength (trying to find a replacement)
Brick Break

Ludicolo
Surf
Giga Drain
Dive ( trying to find a replacement )
Ice Beam
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Old December 21st, 2006 (10:03 AM).
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What, no natures or held items? Natures are essential for a good rate.

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Aggron
Iron Tail/Focus Punch/Thunder Wave
Earthquake
Shock Wave Substitute
Rock Tomb Rock Slide

Any kind of special attack on Aggron is a waste, so Shock Wave has to go. Also, Rock Tomb is a very pathetic STAB move to use. Go with Rock Slide, it's stronger, and if you paralyze your opponent with Thunder Wave first then the flinch bonus is a very useful one. Sub is good with Aggron's high HP, and Focus Punch combined with Substitute can get some pretty good hits in. Meh, Aggron is still a pretty shabby pokémon with its 4x Ground and Fighting weak, so I wouldn't recommend it for the frontier. :\

Blaziken
Blake Kick Fire Blast
Slash Rock Slide
Strength (trying to find a replacement) Swords Dance
Brick Break/Sky Uppercut

Blaze Kick sucks, Fire Blast is prefered for the power, but I guess Flamethrower works well enough (Not great, mind you, but well enough) if you can't stand the lack of accuracy. At any rate, both are better than Blaze Kick. For the rest of the set, just go physical sweepy, Rock Slide to cover the Flying weak and Swords Dance to boost up your Attack. You could also try Sky Uppercut over Brick Break for more damage. Oh, and as a general rule: never use an HM move that isn't called Surf. All of the others (Like Strength) are hopelessly outclassed by other moves.

Ludicolo
Surf
Giga Drain
Dive ( trying to find a replacement ) Rain Dance
Ice Beam

A Ludi without Rain Dance is a sad Ludi. Hope this one has Swift Swim, because if it doesn't then there's not much point in keeping it. Either this one or Blaziken have to go, because Ludi's requirement of rain directly intereferes with Blaziken's fire attacks.
Meh, it's a pretty weak lineup and probably won't last long when the going gets tough. I'd say replace Aggron with a proper physical wall like

Milotic @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Surf
Toxic
Rest
Sleep Talk

Trust me, this thing walls til' the end of time and beyond with its Marvel Scale exploit. Toxic makes it very dangerous for your opponent too. ^^

Blaziken isn't really such a glorious physical sweeper either, so I'd suggest something more along the lines of

Flygon @ Choice Band/Leftovers/Shell Bell/Lum Berry
Nature: Jolly
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Quick Attack/Substitute
Screech/Fire Blast

Quick Attack is a breeding move that you'll need to get from Scyther or Yanma, but it's well worth it, especially since Ludi's Rain Dance is going to hurt the performrance of Fire Blast quite a bit. CB only if you go with an all out attack set, otherwise Leftovers or (If you need that item for your wall) Shell Bell or Lum Berry. Another possiblity is of course

Salamence @ Choice Band/Leftovers/Shell Bell/Lum Berry
Nature: Adamant
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide
Brick Break/Fire Blast/Dragon Dance

A very dangerous CB sweeper, although if you go with DD (Which requires breeding) then the same alternatives that I offered for Flygon apply here. Heracross is also nice, and doesn't necessarily need TMs:

Heracross @ Leftovers/Shell Bell
Nature: Adamant
Megahorn
Rock Slide
Brick Break/Sleep Talk
Swords Dance/Rest

Rest and Sleep Talk go together, otherwise the SD set works well too.
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Ok, i would do that, but i dont have the rest of my life to go find new pokemon
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Old December 21st, 2006 (10:17 AM).
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Ok, i would do that, but i dont have the rest of my life to go find new pokemon
It doesn't take "the rest of your life"... .__. Catching a Hera in the Safari Zone takes a couple of hours, tops (If you're really unlucky) and training it up to 50 can be done in a couple of days. Milo is easy too, as long as you go and fetch the right berries, and the firey path is an easy place to train it up so it can fight trained pokes. Don't ask for a rate if you can't be bothered to do anything with the advice you're given. Believe it or not, we raters have other things to do with our lives too. :O

I noticed that you still didn't provide natures or held items btw. Is that taking too much time out of your life too?
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Old December 21st, 2006 (10:27 AM).
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um... anyway, can you give me a recomendation for my team?
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Old December 21st, 2006 (10:29 AM).
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um... anyway, can you give me a recomendation for my team?
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Are you blind or just plain slow? All of the recommendations can be found in bold within the quote containing what little information of your team you could be bothered to give. That's how all the raters (Except for a few clueless N00Bs) make their corrections around here. -.-
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Old December 21st, 2006 (10:32 AM).
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OK, now can you give me some good ones?
I would love to replace Rock Tomb, but I don't have enough BP.
Blazekin doesn't learn Sky Uppercut until later on.
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OK, now can you give me some good ones?
I would love to replace Rock Tomb, but I don't have enough BP.
Blazekin doesn't learn Sky Uppercut until later on.
Those are the good moves. Don't have enough battle points? Then go get some, get them from the bloody Battle Factory for all I care. Blaziken not good enough to learn Sky Uppercut? Well believe it or not, there's a thing known as 'training'. You can actually make it level up until it learns, or better yet, just ditch the Aggron and the Blaziken (Both substandards) and train better pokes instead. Just because you're too lazy to get the moves it doesn't mean that they aren't good.
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Wow, I see what you are doing now! You are going from thread to thread trying to start a flame war. I really don't care anymore. I'd rather just spend about 3 hours trying to beat all of the Battle Fronteir places with what I've got than listen to yo complain about things that are't any of your bussiness
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Old December 21st, 2006 (10:42 AM).
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Wow, I see what you are doing now! You are going from thread to thread trying to start a flame war. I really don't care anymore. I'd rather just spend about 3 hours trying to beat all of the Battle Fronteir places with what I've got than listen to yo complain about things that are't any of your bussiness
Okay...whatever. You're obviously not listening to a word I say (Much like the original owner of that account, might I add) so I won't bother with you. I gave you the standard sets that any other competent rater here would give you, and all you did was complain that they aren't any good and keep making irrelevant remarks. You also refused to provide the information needed for a proper rate, completely ignored the fact that I did give you improvements (Until I spelled it out for you in bolded letters) and just generally wasted a good bit of my afternoon on this, so who's trying to start a flame war here, really? I'm ignoring you from now on, so don't bother adressing me until you've mastered the art of coherent conversation. I was trying to help you know, but if that's the attitude you're going to keep then fine. Don't expect to make many friends in strategies and movesets btw. :\
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You'll have to excuse Alter Ego. He is a competent player, but doesn't have people skills.

What Alter has suggested in Bold are somethings to take into consideration. We're not holding a gun to your head. Use Blast Burn Typhlosion for all we care. The pokemon he listed under are something you should remember later on if you'd care to take your game up a notch. It might take a while, but the profits are worth it if you decide to take the time to catch, hatch, or train.

btw, Alter, Milotic doesnt count as a physical wall ._.
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Thank you synchronize.

And I have used egg raised Pokemon before... it was a pain but you're right- it's worth it.
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Blazekin doesn't learn Sky Uppercut until later on.
What I did to get a Level 50 Blaziken with Sky Uppercut:

Give your Combusken an Everstone, level it up to 49, take the Everstone off, then level it up to 50. It'll learn Sky Uppercut, then evolve into Blaziken. If you don't have an Everstone, then just keep pressing B.
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