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Old December 22nd, 2006 (9:33 PM).
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Rate my in-game ninjask

Ninjask @ Leftovers** Z0MG NINJA!!!111!!
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Jolly Nature
- Toxic
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

Rate-meh-pogey. No noobs allowed.:)
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Old December 23rd, 2006 (5:00 AM).
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252 EV in Atk is useless without any attack, really.

Switch out Toxic for Aerial Ace or Silver Wind if you want to use attack EV.

If you want to stay with the same moveset, use this EV set.

6 Def/252 Spd / 252 HP
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Old December 26th, 2006 (5:53 AM).
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Why are you using Speed and Attack EV's if you aren't using them? Speed is worthless because you are faster than everything to begin with. Put all those EV's into HP and Special Defense.
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Old December 26th, 2006 (6:46 AM).
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Well, youre right about the speed; with Speed Boost you dont need it, but you need attack because of Baton Pass
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Old December 26th, 2006 (6:47 AM).
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Why do you need Attack to use Baton Pass?
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Old December 26th, 2006 (6:49 AM).
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So the new Pokemon gets the attack benefits.
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Old December 26th, 2006 (11:54 AM).
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I'm not positive about this but I'm pretty darn sure baton pass only gives the improved stats of swords dance ect. The base stats of the pokemon using baton bass doesnt transfer.
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Old December 26th, 2006 (12:23 PM).
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Yea, he said it right. Peabobo, what were you thinking.

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Old December 26th, 2006 (5:17 PM).
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once again, Stant, you have misread something, paraphrased me, sucked everything i did right about it, and made it into Flame In A Bottle

I did not say anything about base stats. I said Speed Boost.
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Old December 26th, 2006 (6:25 PM).
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Wtf is Toxic doing? Silver Wind/HP Bug/HP Flying please. You can at least handle things you may have trouble with.

Those EVs are ugly. Go with Adamant, 252 Atk, 164 Spd (for 397 Spd total), and put the rest into HP.

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Old December 26th, 2006 (6:55 PM).
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He had a point when he posted it. Dont screw it up.
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Old December 26th, 2006 (7:09 PM).
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I suppose you were using the EV set that Smogon recommended for you. You did notice that on Smogon their move-sets had attacks right?

252 hp / 252 speed / 6 whatever sounds good.

I guess that is a good move-set if your just going to Sub - > Toxic - > Dance -> Pass.
Are you using Toxic hoping that they'll heal with an item so you gain a turn?
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Old December 27th, 2006 (2:05 AM).
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sub/baton pass/silver wind/hp [flying]
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Old December 27th, 2006 (4:58 AM).
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once again, Stant, you have misread something, paraphrased me, sucked everything i did right about it, and made it into Flame In A Bottle

I did not say anything about base stats. I said Speed Boost.
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So the new Pokemon gets the attack benefits.
That isn't misreading. You said that if you have more Attack you BP more Attack.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:24 AM).
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NO, I said if you use Swords Dance and Speed Boost to your advantage you will BP it. Are you bllind?!
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:27 AM).
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You never even said the word Swords Dance. I know that Swords Dance + Speed Boost is good, but you said you needed Attack EV's to BP.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:28 AM).
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No I didn't. You are blind.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:30 AM).
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Point out to me where you said that, considering you said the word Swords Dance not once until your last post.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:39 AM).
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I didnt say anything about EVs either
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:49 AM).
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Why are you using Speed and Attack EV's if you aren't using them? Speed is worthless because you are faster than everything to begin with. Put all those EV's into HP and Special Defense.

That is what I said, talking about his EV's because I was correcting them.

Well, youre right about the speed; with Speed Boost you dont need it, but you need attack because of Baton Pass

In respones to that, you agree with me on the Speed part, but then say he needs Attack, and that means Attack EV's considering that is what I said and you were replying to me.

Why do you need Attack to use Baton Pass?

Question.

So the new Pokemon gets the attack benefits.

What you said in reply to that, not true because it passes stat-ups not the actual stats.


Yea, he said it right. Peabobo, what were you thinking.

Ok, you were completly wrong.

once again, Stant, you have misread something, paraphrased me, sucked everything i did right about it, and made it into Flame In A Bottle

I did not say anything about base stats. I said Speed Boost.


Actually you never mentioned Speed Boost, you mentioned attack benefits.

NO, I said if you use Swords Dance and Speed Boost to your advantage you will BP it. Are you bllind?!

You never said that or anything like it.

Point out to me where you said that, considering you said the word Swords Dance not once until your last post.

ooh what now

I didnt say anything about EVs either

See beggining of this post.


I am right, you are wrong unless you worded something really badly.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (6:29 AM).
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Forget it. Whenever I try to say something you act like the sky is gonna fall on our heads. This discussion is over.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (9:00 AM).
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loling atm, next time lets all use:

Shedinja @ leftovers
252 hp/252 def/6 sp.def
bold
-sandstorm
-double edge
-rest
-substitute

and make the world a better place.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (11:00 AM).
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Ahhh, the winning set. Glad someone knows about it.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (1:16 PM).
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also the topic title lies, deoxys-e is faster
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:16 PM).
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After one speed boost, Ninjask is the fastest pokemon. Anyways, yeah the EVs are a bit screwed cause I was sorta copying smogon for the evs. I rushed a bit and came up with a pretty bad ev spread.
 

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