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Old December 27th, 2006 (2:17 AM).
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Ludicolo @ Leftovers ** YUKUZA
EV's: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Modest / Timid Nature
- Surf
- Giga Drain
- Toxic
- Leech Seed

Competitive. <duh/>
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Old December 27th, 2006 (4:54 AM).
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I would go with Ice Beam over Giga Drain to kill Salamence / Flygon.

Ludicolo (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 220 HP / 76 Def / 8 Spd / 56 SAtk / 148 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Toxic
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Old December 27th, 2006 (4:57 AM).
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More like Ice Beam over Surf and HP Grass over Giga Drain.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:00 AM).
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I guess. I like having STAB other than Giga Drain / HP Grass because that really only hits Swampert.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:06 AM).
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And other water types like Starmie, which is what makes Ludicolo a true water counter.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:09 AM).
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That is what Leech Seed is for. Personally I would be more afraid of Salamence than I would of Starmie.

If he is using this on NetBattle you are more right, but being able to kill Salamence / Flygon is cool.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:35 AM).
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Which is why my ludi always carries Ice Beam.

Starmie Rapid Spins away leech seed. My main concern with starmie as that it will either recover stall or hax with Ice Beam and Thunderbolt.
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Old December 28th, 2006 (7:24 PM).
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Modified without EVs:

Ludicolo @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Leech Seed (?)
- Toxic

Any good??
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Old December 29th, 2006 (6:54 AM).
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Modified without EVs:

Ludicolo @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Surf
- Toxic

Any good??
No, Leech Seed is a very slow move and Starmie + other Radip Spinners can escape from it easily.
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Old December 29th, 2006 (10:08 AM).
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It all depends if you want a staller or a Rain Dance+Swift Swimmer.

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Ice Beam
HP [Grass] / Giga Drain
Leech Seed
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Leech Seed / Surf
Ice Beam
HP [Grass] / Giga Drain

I don't use the Mexican Mallard much but I think those are pretty standard. xD
 

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