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Old January 5th, 2007 (8:36 PM).
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Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 216 Atk / 252 Spd / 40 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Explosion
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Thunder

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 44 SAtk / 212 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 140 HP / 24 Atk / 152 Def / 22 Spd / 148 SAtk / 24 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Explosion
- Haze
- Taunt
- Will-O-Wisp

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 146 HP / 224 Atk / 140 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Surf

Aerodactyl (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Ancientpower
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 200 HP / 182 Spd / 128 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Roar
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
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Old January 5th, 2007 (8:56 PM).
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Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 216 Atk / 252 Spd / 40 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Explosion
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Thunder

Can't complain, as thats my EV spread. ^___^

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 44 SAtk / 212 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder

To be honest, my Kyogre EVs are always random/lost, so I don't really know what to make of the SDef EVs. The set's a bit outdated, but I guess it still might work.

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 140 HP / 24 Atk / 152 Def / 22 Spd / 148 SAtk / 24 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Explosion
- Haze
- Taunt
- Will-O-Wisp

Too many psychic types/special attackers/Substituting Groudons in the uber metagame.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 146 HP / 224 Atk / 140 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Surf

Too much in ubers rapes this as well. Use Brave next time.


Aerodactyl (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying/Bug]
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 200 HP / 182 Spd / 128 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power[Grass/Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Meanwhile ground types are laughing
[23:47:30] -Synchronize-: that is an uber team, right?
[23:48:38] Simmons2.0: I don't think so. Raikou and Kyogre, are the only ubers. I threw some pokemon in and made them movesets.
[23:49:03] Simmons2.0: Ou maybe?
[23:49:09] -Synchronize-: Kyogre is the only uber
[23:49:21] -Synchronize-: and having even one uber disqualifies it from being OU
[23:49:44] Simmons2.0: oic. So uber then.

This wouldn't work in ubers for obvious reasons listed above. As far as OU without Kyogre, The EVs are pretty screwed, Gengar needs Ice Punch over Shadow Ball, Weezing Needs Sludge Bomb over Taunt or Explosion, Swampert needs Brave Nature, and is best used with Ice Beam over Rock Slide (not to mention it needs Rest on a cursing set), and Raikou might need a Timid Nature if you're using so little speed EVs.

edit: Celebi hands out problems like AA pamphlets here.
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Old January 5th, 2007 (9:02 PM).
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From a 1-10 rating, I would give it a 7. As far as types go, you have two poisons and two waters. The attacks are okay, but I don't like to have explosion or anything like that on my team, but that's just me. It's not good for double battles and it can be very risky. I like how you have stat lowering attacks as well as offensive attacks. But it's best not to give a Pokemon the same attack as another, unless it's a really useful and powerful move. Otherwise, I think you've done a good job.
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From a 1-10 rating, I would give it a 7. As far as types go, you have two poisons and two waters. The attacks are okay, but I don't like to have explosion or anything like that on my team, but that's just me. It's not good for double battles and it can be very risky. I like how you have stat lowering attacks as well as offensive attacks. But it's best not to give a Pokemon the same attack as another, unless it's a really useful and powerful move. Otherwise, I think you've done a good job.
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Old January 5th, 2007 (9:20 PM). Edited January 5th, 2007 by Simmons_2.0.
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Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 2 HP / 1 Atk / 252 Def / 1 Spd / 252 SAtk / 2 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Curse
- Toxic
- Wish

Switched Aero to umby



Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 24 HP / 23 Atk / 172 Def / 244 Spd / 23 SAtk / 24 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Drill Peck
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Toxic

weezing for Tauntmory
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Old January 6th, 2007 (7:59 AM).
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From a 1-10 rating, I would give it a 7. As far as types go, you have two poisons and two waters. The attacks are okay, but I don't like to have explosion or anything like that on my team, but that's just me. It's not good for double battles and it can be very risky. I like how you have stat lowering attacks as well as offensive attacks. But it's best not to give a Pokemon the same attack as another, unless it's a really useful and powerful move. Otherwise, I think you've done a good job.
That bolded word showed me right there you were a noob trying to rate it >_>

Sync, dont look directly at that umbreon! it sucks so much it may be tempted to go on a killing spree for messing up your fav. poke

Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 56 Atk / 160 Def / 96 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Roar

randomly made. looks funky but better than that skarm that has a NEUTRAL nature
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Old January 6th, 2007 (9:10 AM).
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That bolded word showed me right there you were a noob trying to rate it >_>

Sync, dont look directly at that umbreon! it sucks so much it may be tempted to go on a killing spree for messing up your fav. poke

Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 56 Atk / 160 Def / 96 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Roar

randomly made. looks funky but better than that skarm that has a NEUTRAL nature
As far as the EVs went, it scared me, but the only thing wrong with the set is Toxic, as far as I can see.

That Skarm needs alot more speed to use Taunt btw.
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Old January 6th, 2007 (12:08 PM).
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Well I'm sorry Mr. Big Shots! I was only giving MY opinion. I don't care what the heck you think.

And besides, I've had quite a few people write me that they love my Umbreon, so just shut your traps! And I'm sure your Avatars are Soooo much better. *Sarcastic tone*
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Old January 6th, 2007 (12:12 PM).
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Well I'm sorry Mr. Big Shots! I was only giving MY opinion. I don't care what the heck you think.

And besides, I've had quite a few people write me that they love my Umbreon, so just shut your traps! And I'm sure your Avatars are Soooo much better. *Sarcastic tone*
Double Battles are gay, no one really likes them >_>

Singal battles are what we are talking about
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Old January 6th, 2007 (2:36 PM).
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Well I'm sorry Mr. Big Shots! I was only giving MY opinion. I don't care what the heck you think.

And besides, I've had quite a few people write me that they love my Umbreon, so just shut your traps! And I'm sure your Avatars are Soooo much better. *Sarcastic tone*
Your opinion is flawed, and therefore is not useful. This section is more dedicated to giving accurate, liable information to help others with their teams and battle strategy. So you might wanna make a change and actually care about what we KNOW.

No one was talking about avatars. We were talking about the Umbreon moveset/EVs that simmons2.0 listed.

My avatar is actually better than yours btw.
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Old January 6th, 2007 (3:19 PM).
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SnowPhoenix, number rates are useless and they don't help at all. And 99% of teams here are for single battles only. Furthermore, the advice you gave is very vague and not very insightful.
Unless you have good knowledge of competitive battling, please don't give advice on competitive teams.

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Aragorn, I think we need to revive the thread we had about the people that can rate teams IMO
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It'll take me a while to decide whether I should laugh or correct this post. Mayhaps shane or Aragornbird will intrude before I decide.
Personally I am loling at this thread in general.

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Aragorn, I think we need to revive the thread we had about the people that can rate teams IMO
That thread was full of epic win.

I could make the new one.
 

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