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Old January 8th, 2007 (3:58 PM).
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Keep in mind, this is for Emerald and is IG and not online..

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Adamant Nature (+Attack, -SPattack)
EVS: 252Attack/252 Speed/4HP.
Sludge Bomb/Poison Fang
Aerial Ace
Confuse Ray
Curse

I'm not quite sure if this is that good. And for the SB/PF thing, I'm not quite sure which is better, well I am thinking SB is better, due to more base damage as well as equal chances of poisoning (altho the poison is worse) the enemy and is mroe accurate. I have Salac Berry on him because i wasn't sure if leftovers was good to go on him. I'm also unsure on the EV spread on him, as wella s his anture, i was thinknig adamant or the nature which is +Speed -Spattack.
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Old January 8th, 2007 (4:30 PM).
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Yeah, that is bad. Crobat won't last long enough to benefit from Curse. This is more of the standard:

Crobat @ Choice Band
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Steel Wing/Return

Two good STAB attacks, Shadow Ball for good coverage, and then the last slot is preference. Most people will say to shy away from Return since it is a Normal move, but it is more of an exception on Crobat since Steel Wing is inaccurate. A boosted Return can damage a lot of things.
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Old January 8th, 2007 (4:36 PM).
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=D At least i adh the EV Spread AND the anture right =D

And ya, i wasnt all to sure on curse sicne ive never seen it mentioned before.. xD

And couldnt I have Confuse ray instead of either of the two? But if i am forced upon having one of them, i would take return, cuz SW is inaccurate, and it kills me knowing i can miss at any moment >.<
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Old January 8th, 2007 (4:56 PM).
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If you really wanted Curse, you could try it with White Herb to benefit from at least one Curse without suffering a speed loss. Other than that, Confuse Ray is generally one of the lesser choices on Crobat.
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Old January 8th, 2007 (5:05 PM).
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nah, i dont need curse, it was just a temporary idea.. xD
I'll stick with Return over SW, so thanx guys! ^.^
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Old January 8th, 2007 (5:22 PM).
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Here's one of my favorite movesets. Seems to benefit me more than anything. Just make sure you think smart and not have this moveset against something that will defeat Crobat...

Crobat @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
Adamant or Jolly Nature
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
- Mean Look
- Toxic
- Confuse Ray
- Aerial Ace / Wing Attack / HP Flying
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Old January 8th, 2007 (5:41 PM).
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That's one of the worst Crobat sets.
No offense, but that's a very typical noob thing to do. People think "Crobat can learn Mean Look, Toxic, and Confuse Ray! I should use them!"

NO.

Crobat is a Physical attacker, and that's how it works the best.

Crobat @Choice Band
Adamant Nature
-Aerial Ace
-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power [Ground/Fighting]/Steel Wing


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Old January 8th, 2007 (5:45 PM).
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Actually, you intended offense when you offended me. "No offense" is not the answer. In any case:

True, Crobat is a physical sweeper, but you need to remember that one movepool is not the solution to anything. But overall, you are right, but you need to remember that offense is not everything. You need some key defense fighters, and I believed Crobat, despite its high attack, and, to be frank, quite limited movepool, is not too much of a competitor at the OU/Borderline level.
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Old January 8th, 2007 (6:09 PM).
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Clearly you musnt have read the first post. I said this is IN GAME not online.. xD

and the AI hardly ever switches this pokemon, meaning absolutly no need for Mean look. And IMO SB is better than Toxic. Due to the fact that SB does damage, and quite a bit of it due to STAB and Crobat's attack not to emntion it already ahs a 30% chance of poisoning anyways. The only bad part is that the poision isnt as effective as toxic's poison.
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Old January 8th, 2007 (8:59 PM).
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Actually, you intended offense when you offended me. "No offense" is not the answer. In any case:

True, Crobat is a physical sweeper, but you need to remember that one movepool is not the solution to anything. But overall, you are right, but you need to remember that offense is not everything. You need some key defense fighters, and I believed Crobat, despite its high attack, and, to be frank, quite limited movepool, is not too much of a competitor at the OU/Borderline level.
Crobat is not a very defensive pokemon being left wide open to a lot of common moves in the OU metagame. Not to mention it doesn't really have any helpful utility moves that are particularly helpful to it, as Haze fails and Whirlwind just neglects its high speed. There's also the fact that the set you introduced wasn't even devensive, it's just an annoyer set, which overall doesnt work. Crobat is meant more for sweeping because of its high speed and attack.
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Old January 9th, 2007 (4:37 PM).
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Ah, well, I tried. Normally it works for me in-game and sometimes in the competitive setting, but hey, I'm just giving you my two cents, which aren't really valuable anyway...XD
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