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Old August 7th, 2013 (8:39 AM).
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    I want to replace ??? type with Fairy type. How would I go about doing that?
    NOOO, you don't. ??? is used for eggs and the move Curse. So think. Think before you do.
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    Old August 7th, 2013 (8:51 AM).
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      NOOO, you don't. ??? is used for eggs and the move Curse. So think. Think before you do.
      Bleeehhhh how can I just add a new type?
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      Old August 7th, 2013 (9:27 AM).
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        What did you use for it? I've looked for tools to do that with you see, can't find any.
        Here's the tool.
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        Old August 7th, 2013 (9:59 AM).
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          Bleeehhhh how can I just add a new type?
          Hacking the types with ASM.
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          Old August 7th, 2013 (3:29 PM).
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            Hacking the types with ASM.
            Do you actually need ASM for that? The type advantages are handled by a (somewhat strange) table somewhere, so you should just be able to change things to types past the normal ones without any ASM. Might have to break a few limiters and you'd obviously have to edit the type graphic, but IIRC there was space for a few freebie types.

            (not to mention that if you retype curse and don't have eggs, ??? is perfectly usable as long as you either use the phys/spec split or break all the related checks)

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            Old August 7th, 2013 (4:03 PM).
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              Old August 7th, 2013 (5:46 PM).
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              A simple question: what are the variables which are safe to use in a Ruby ROM?

              I am just recently introduced to vars (don't ask), and I created my very first script using vars, but I am not sure what variables are safe to use. :3
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              Well DJG, there is no list for Ruby, but maybe deleting certain events that use them can ensure they're free. However, a var can hold a value from 0-65535, so you may only need like two. So just to be safe, vars in the 4000 area. I'm pretty sure 8000 and higher are unsafe or temporary

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              Old August 7th, 2013 (6:51 PM).
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              Well DJG, there is no list for Ruby, but maybe deleting certain events that use them can ensure they're free. However, a var can hold a value from 0-65535, so you may only need like two. So just to be safe, vars in the 4000 area. I'm pretty sure 8000 and higher are unsafe or temporary
              Yesh, the very first var I used is 4000, since I based it on Birch's script where he's being chased by a Poochyena.

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                Hi all, I am new to ASM and it's going pretty well. Here's my code

                Quote:
                .text
                .align 2
                .thumb
                .thumb_func
                .global nature

                main:
                push {r0-r1, lr} \\lets me work with r0 and r1
                ldr r0, .POKE_DATA \\ Loads the address of specified below as a 'word'
                ldr r1, [r0] \\ Loads the value of the address into r1 as a 'word'
                add r1, r1, #0x1 \\ adds 1 to the word in r1
                str r0, [r1] \\ stores the 'word' in r1 to the address in r0.
                pop {r0-r1, pc} \\ puts the registers back


                .align 2
                .POKE_DATA:
                .word 0x02024284 \\address of the the PID
                Now is their a reason why this doesn't add 1 to the PID? I know its encrypted but I expected a bad egg instead of nothing. 100% sure the script works.
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                Old August 7th, 2013 (8:28 PM). Edited August 7th, 2013 by karatekid552.
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                  Hi all, I am new to ASM and it's going pretty well. Here's my code



                  Now is their a reason why this doesn't add 1 to the PID? I know its encrypted but I expected a bad egg instead of nothing. 100% sure the script works.
                  Just because it doesn't make a bad egg, doesn't mean it doesn't work. Did you open up the memory viewer at that address and check it before and after? (I haven't read your asm yet, I'm going back now..)

                  Edit: You made a very common mistake. One sec...

                  Code:
                  .text
                  .align 2
                  .thumb
                  .thumb_func
                  .global nature
                  
                  main:
                  push {r0-r1, lr} \\lets me work with r0 and r1
                  ldr r0, .POKE_DATA \\ Loads the address of specified below as a 'word'
                  ldr r1, [r0] \\ Loads the value of the address into r1 as a 'word'
                  add r1, r1, #0x1 \\ adds 1 to the word in r1
                  str r1, [r0] \\ stores the 'word' in r1 to the address in r0.
                  pop {r0-r1, pc} \\ puts the registers back 
                  
                  
                  .align 2
                  .POKE_DATA:
                  .word 0x02024284 \\address of the the PID
                  Str and ldr tend to confuse people.

                  ldr works like this:

                  ldr rX, [rH]
                  <-----------

                  str works like this:

                  str rX, [rH]
                  ------------>

                  Understand? They move in different directions. You load right to left, and store left to right. There are very few commands that work left to right, and str is one of them, which trips people up. Remember, [] signify the data at an address. So, str r0, [r1] would read the PID as a memory address and try and store the address in r0 there. Not good..XD
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                  Old August 7th, 2013 (8:39 PM). Edited August 7th, 2013 by Elaitenstile.
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                    (not to mention that if you retype curse and don't have eggs, ??? is perfectly usable as long as you either use the phys/spec split or break all the related checks)

                    http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=266698 relevant
                    The only problem being I'm positive that the escapade move Struggle is the ??? type. I'm not sure about that but I think so. However Curse is a defensive move so yeah, the re-typing wont effect it

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                    A simple question: what are the variables which are safe to use in a Ruby ROM?

                    I am just recently introduced to vars (don't ask), and I created my very first script using vars, but I am not sure what variables are safe to use. :3
                    You'd be surprised to know that after a certain point (near Fortree I think) the game stats using vars like 0x1, 0x2, 0x3 etc.
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                    Old August 7th, 2013 (8:51 PM). Edited August 7th, 2013 by kearnseyboy6.
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                      Just because it doesn't make a bad egg, doesn't mean it doesn't work. Did you open up the memory viewer at that address and check it before and after? (I haven't read your asm yet, I'm going back now..)

                      Edit: You made a very common mistake. One sec...

                      Code:
                      .text
                      .align 2
                      .thumb
                      .thumb_func
                      .global nature
                      
                      main:
                      push {r0-r1, lr} \\lets me work with r0 and r1
                      ldr r0, .POKE_DATA \\ Loads the address of specified below as a 'word'
                      ldr r1, [r0] \\ Loads the value of the address into r1 as a 'word'
                      add r1, r1, #0x1 \\ adds 1 to the word in r1
                      str r1, [r0] \\ stores the 'word' in r1 to the address in r0.
                      pop {r0-r1, pc} \\ puts the registers back 
                      
                      
                      .align 2
                      .POKE_DATA:
                      .word 0x02024284 \\address of the the PID
                      Str and ldr tend to confuse people.

                      ldr works like this:

                      ldr rX, [rH]
                      <-----------

                      str works like this:

                      str rX, [rH]
                      ------------>

                      Understand? They move in different directions. You load right to left, and store left to right. There are very few commands that work left to right, and str is one of them, which trips people up. Remember, [] signify the data at an address. So, str r0, [r1] would read the PID as a memory address and try and store the address in r0 there. Not good..XD
                      Yes it does thanks! Thanks for clearing it up the [] as well, I now understand how values are pulled from an address without moving the address too XD. But are you 100% on the str though? In JPANs doc it quotes thumb assembly doesn't swap the convention unlike other languages:

                      Quote:
                      Notice that str, unlike some other assembly languages, is not an inverted form of Ldr. In thumb, both str’s and ldr’s have the same format
                      I am happy to change my thinking but when I use this code (modifies HP) it works perfectly. I also have memory viewer on auto update too
                      Spoiler:
                      .text
                      .align 2
                      .thumb
                      .thumb_func
                      .global healthbooster

                      main:
                      push {r0-r1, lr}
                      ldrh r0, .POKE_DATA
                      ldr r1, [r0]
                      add r0, r0, #0x64
                      strh r0, [r1]
                      pop {r0-r1, pc}


                      .align 2
                      .POKE_DATA:
                      .word 0x02024287


                      Sorry KK552, your method worked, I must have understood JPAN wrong. It worked like a charm! I got my bad egg Now to fix the checksum and I will be rolling. Thanks for the push!

                      Also has anyone edited the PID? Or is it impossible haha!
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                      Old August 7th, 2013 (9:04 PM). Edited August 7th, 2013 by karatekid552.
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                        Yes it does thanks! Thanks for clearing it up the [] as well, I now understand how values are pulled from an address without moving the address too XD. But are you 100% on the str though? In JPANs doc it quotes thumb assembly doesn't swap the convention unlike other languages:



                        I am happy to change my thinking but when I use this code (modifies HP) it works perfectly. I also have memory viewer on auto update too
                        Spoiler:
                        .text
                        .align 2
                        .thumb
                        .thumb_func
                        .global healthbooster

                        main:
                        push {r0-r1, lr}
                        ldrh r0, .POKE_DATA
                        ldr r1, [r0]
                        add r0, r0, #0x64
                        strh r0, [r1]
                        pop {r0-r1, pc}


                        .align 2
                        .POKE_DATA:
                        .word 0x02024287
                        What he meant there, was that str and ldr don't look like this:

                        ldr r1, [r0]
                        str [r0], r1

                        see how they are opposites?

                        ~~~~~~~~
                        Judging from what I know, that code should not work.....
                        Seeing as how I wrote my own forme change code... I know how str works.....


                        Edit: what threw me off was the ldrh. That code will work. One sec....


                        .text
                        .align 2
                        .thumb
                        .thumb_func
                        .global healthbooster

                        main:
                        push {r0-r1, lr}
                        ldrh r0, .POKE_DATA /*You are loading an address into r0, always load the full thing, not half. Though, it may not make a difference, not a good habit.*/
                        ldrh r1, [r0] /*load what is at the address .POKE_DATA into r1. Here you are loading a word, shouldn't you be loading a half-word?*/
                        add r0, r0, #0x64 /*Add 100 to r0, and place on r0. Looks like, we are moving to the next pokemons HP, which is 100 bytes away...*/
                        strh r0, [r1] /*Store the bottom half of the address of the second pokemon at the random number you loaded from the pokemon data.*/
                        pop {r0-r1, pc}


                        .align 2
                        .POKE_DATA:
                        .word 0x02024287


                        Creating a correct version now....

                        Code:
                        .align 2
                        .thumb
                        .thumb_func
                        .global healthbooster
                        
                        main:
                            push {r0-r1, lr}
                            ldr r0, .POKE_DATA
                            ldrh r1, [r0]
                            add r1, r1, #0x64
                            strh r1, [r0]
                            pop {r0-r1, pc}
                        
                        
                        .align 2
                        .POKE_DATA:
                            .word 0x02024287
                        That should work. I also seriously confused myself while correcting the first one. Let me fix that... Fixed.
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                        Old August 7th, 2013 (9:18 PM).
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                          What he meant there, was that str and ldr don't look like this:

                          ldr r1, [r0]
                          str [r0], r1

                          see how they are opposites?

                          ~~~~~~~~
                          Judging from what I know, that code should not work.....
                          Seeing as how I wrote my own forme change code... I know how str works.....


                          Edit: what threw me off was the ldrh. That code will work. One sec....


                          .text
                          .align 2
                          .thumb
                          .thumb_func
                          .global healthbooster

                          main:
                          push {r0-r1, lr}
                          ldrh r0, .POKE_DATA /*You are loading an address into r0, always load the full thing, not half. Though, it may not make a difference, not a good habit.*/
                          ldrh r1, [r0] /*load what is at the address .POKE_DATA into r1. Here you are loading a word, shouldn't you be loading a half-word?*/
                          add r0, r0, #0x64 /*Add 100 to r0, and place on r0. Looks like, we are moving to the next pokemons HP, which is 100 bytes away...*/
                          strh r0, [r1] /*Store the bottom half of that address as the new HP on the original first pokemon.*/
                          pop {r0-r1, pc}


                          .align 2
                          .POKE_DATA:
                          .word 0x02024287


                          So, effectively, you stored the address of the second pokemon as the HP of the first pokemon. Which would have maxed it out.

                          Creating a correct version now....
                          Oh god! Sorry this is not my code! I edited it for my new one! This is the original (I know it's not 100% efficient!)

                          Spoiler:
                          .text
                          .align 2
                          .thumb
                          .thumb_func
                          .global healthbooster

                          main:
                          push {r0-r1, lr}
                          ldr r0, .POKE_DATA
                          ldr r0, [r0]
                          ldr r1, .POKE_DATA
                          add r0, r0, #0x64
                          strh r0, [r1]
                          pop {r0-r1, pc}


                          .align 2
                          .POKE_DATA:
                          .word 0x020242DC


                          Thanks for the help!
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                            Oh god! Sorry this is not my code! I edited it for my new one! This is the original (I know it's not 100% efficient!)

                            Spoiler:
                            .text
                            .align 2
                            .thumb
                            .thumb_func
                            .global healthbooster

                            main:
                            push {r0-r1, lr}
                            ldr r0, .POKE_DATA
                            ldr r0, [r0]
                            ldr r1, .POKE_DATA
                            add r0, r0, #0x64
                            strh r0, [r1]
                            pop {r0-r1, pc}


                            .align 2
                            .POKE_DATA:
                            .word 0x020242DC


                            Thanks for the help!

                            No problem.

                            Spoiler:
                            .text
                            .align 2
                            .thumb
                            .thumb_func
                            .global healthbooster

                            main:
                            push {r0-r1, lr}
                            ldr r0, .POKE_DATA
                            ldr r0, [r0]
                            ldr r1, .POKE_DATA <- REALLY IMPORTANTE!!!
                            add r0, r0, #0x64
                            strh r0, [r1]
                            pop {r0-r1, pc}


                            .align 2
                            .POKE_DATA:
                            .word 0x020242DC


                            Edit: Don't worry about being inefficient. Game freak was SUPER inefficient in their code. When you start looking at the in game code, you will see what I mean.
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                                How to remove the need of Badge to use HM moves outside of battle for Firered?

                                e.g. I want to remove the need of Soul Badge to use the move, Hm: Surf.
                                Find the scripts, remove the check flag.
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                                Old August 7th, 2013 (9:59 PM).
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                                  Find the scripts, remove the check flag.
                                  That's the thing. If i remove the checkflag, it'll set the badge on. I don't want that. I want the player to be able to use the HM freely without the need of the badges.
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                                    That's the thing. If i remove the checkflag, it'll set the badge on. I don't want that. I want the player to be able to use the HM freely without the need of the badges.
                                    No, not that script. The script that is called when you want to use an HM. It has a check flag, that needs to be removed. If it doesn't check the flag, it will just move through without the need of a badge. You are like the 500th person to ask that on this thread.
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                                      Two questions about Pokemon Ruby.

                                      1. It is possible to add more types without repleacing existing Types? <I need to add 3 types>
                                      - If it was possible... How to edit their effectivnese.

                                      2. How add new Voicegroup to Pokemon Ruby? I want add to my hack something like GB PLAYER. And I need to inster GBC Soundfonts.
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                                      Old August 8th, 2013 (5:10 AM). Edited August 8th, 2013 by Wobbu.
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                                        Two questions about Pokemon Ruby.

                                        1. It is possible to add more types without repleacing existing Types? <I need to add 3 types>
                                        - If it was possible... How to edit their effectivnese.

                                        2. How add new Voicegroup to Pokemon Ruby? I want add to my hack something like GB PLAYER. And I need to inster GBC Soundfonts.
                                        1. A couple pages earlier in this thread there was a discussion about adding types.

                                        2. Using a hex editor, find 0x600 free bytes, then write 00 3C 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 to the free space 128 times (I recommend using a fill selection feature). This would be the setup for a single sample instrument. Fortunately, Sappy can change the setup for you if you have a multi sample instrument.

                                        I'd rather not go too in-depth because gogojjtech has explained this: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=301027

                                        Fortunately for you, Ruby already has the GBC 'soundfonts.' They're called squares, waves, and noises, and can be created with Sappy.
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                                          Two questions about Pokemon Ruby.

                                          1. It is possible to add more types without repleacing existing Types? <I need to add 3 types>
                                          - If it was possible... How to edit their effectivnese.
                                          Stop asking questions like these. You know that in order to increase limits and add more, it will require a little bit of ASM, even if it is just following the loading routine and increasing the limits. However, you adamantly refuse to learn even the most basic of ASM. Instead hounding us for a different answer, which there is none.
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                                          So this is weird... the name of routes/towns/etc only display in the starter town, and nowhere else. Any idea why that's happening? I have it set to show name of course.
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                                          Old August 8th, 2013 (2:05 PM).
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                                            So, I was wandering, if I start working on a hack, can I make the maps now and insert the new tiles and sprites later or do I have to do it while creating the maps? Im a noob so I'm trying to learn abit more. Its just that I started a Hack and I want to make it the best I can but Im still learning.
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