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Old March 2nd, 2007 (7:04 PM). Edited March 3rd, 2007 by House of Numbers.
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Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Personally my favorite starter. My team can support it fairly well imo.

Donphan (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 130 Atk / 128 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Rapid Spin
- Rest

My favorite Rapid Spinner, 302 Atk allows it to actually do some damage to thinks and serve a purpose outside of getting rid of Spikes.

Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Def / 96 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Haze
- Surf
- Toxic
- Wish

Makes a faster Hazer than Weezing, which makes it an extremely valuable member of my team. Toxic also gets shoved in the face of anything that I don't expect to have Rest.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 202 HP / 252 Def / 56 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Ice Beam

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Atk / 16 Def / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide

CBGross. 400 Atk with 1.5 Boost from Choice Band makes this thing very good. Meteor Mash OHKOs Gengar.

Ludicolo (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 168 HP / 88 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
- Surf

After a Rain Dance, 396 Speed lets it outspeed everything except Ninjask. 305 Sp Atk makes it a pretty good sweeper, and a STAB'd, Weather Boosted Surf will likely kill of anything without amazing Sp Def or a resistance....

I think it covers everything fairly well. I'd greatly appreciate all comments and suggestions on my team.
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Old March 2nd, 2007 (7:45 PM).
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Flawless in terms of needing fixing, except for the fact that SDef EVs are redundant on Vaporeon, as it still falls short from surviving two STABed Thunderbolts. Beware of Gengar, as it resists your Toxic onslaught and can do a hefty amount of damage to anything not named Blissey, who can't touch it in any matter. Not to mention Gengar will handily devoid you of blowing away his team's spikesLudicolo could definitely take it down without a sweat, the way . you've set it up, but taking the hit itself is more of an issue in the long run. Other than that, watch out for when people decide to take after me and use Focus Punch Regice. Pretty good for a regular stall.
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I made a good team? 2 historic events in one day again! *Screenies*

I just gave some Sp Def to Vaporeon to help a little bit against Grass and Electric attacks, but I suppose since I have Blissey that isn't needed. What should I replace them for?

Gengar definitely messes up my team due to it's Poison Ghost dual type, but Metagross OHKOs it with a STAB'ed CB'ed Meteor Mash to the face. I just need to take it out on site.

Ludicolo should be able to take it out with a STAB'd Weather Boosted Surf, but taking damage on the switch in and getting Rain Dance set up is risky. Not to mention that SubPunch is common on Gengar, which really ruins my fun.

So I have a big weakness to Gengar (I guess that's what you meant, although if you didn't, I probably just made it sound like I do). What would be a good idea to take care of that?
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Putting Ice Beam or HP Water on Blissey over Toxic.

edit: I also missed a note on vaporeon. First off, Vappy doesn't need any SAtk EVs to OHKO Salamence with Ice Beam. Second, you didn't list Ice Beam as one of its attacks ._. Personally, on this team, I believe Toxic would make a cool choice.
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What the heck.... I was sure I had Ice Beam on it. Should I take something off for Ice Beam, or just leave it off and edit my post so I don't look quite as dumb?
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Making a post here won't change what you do in your team builder.
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Yyeah... not seeing Ice Beam on that Vaporeon, but I see you've realized that. =P Y'won't really need it though, with the kind of stalling power that thing has Salamence is going to die slowly and painfully of poisoning anyway. I'm tempted to try this team myself but all the stalling really doesn't fit my battling style. (Ending my unhelpful opinions here, sorry...)


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Other than that, watch out for when people decide to take after me and use Focus Punch Regice.
Me being one of 'em. I did use that "how babies are born" team but I also had that Regice while I was still developing the "scrambling OU" team of mine.
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Alright, editing my original post so I don't look as dumb for talking about a move I didn't have on there. Lol.

On Ice Beam Blissey, it would only do ~40% damage max, so it'll basically never 2HKO. Substitute would really ruin all the fun as well. SubPunching 'Gar could cause major problems.
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That's what Ice Beam is for. It's not really how fast it can KO Gar, its more of a "Stop Gar from Subbing" type of thing.
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Good point. Team Edited....
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