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Old March 4th, 2007 (8:35 PM). Edited March 4th, 2007 by Ichida.
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I'm considering giving Manaphy a spot on my battle team once I get Pearl, since I've already beaten Ranger. I was hoping I could get a good strategy and moveset suggestion from someone who knows what Manaphy's best for.
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*shrug* well... how is mew used? ._. they have the same stats, right? same for celebi.
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Manaphy @Leftovers
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-Surf
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Ahh, thanks for the help. I've decided to go with a sleep-oriented Darkrai instead though, gomen. My policy is one legendary per team, and I've already got Gardevoir for my special sweeper. I'll keep that moveset in mind for using Manaphy against NPC trainers though.
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Manaphy @Leftovers
Modest Nature
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-Tail Glow

Seriously sweeps stuff.


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I'd probably run Timid Nature and Substitute on mine.
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(Except for Japan citizens) If I were you, I'd wait till D/P comes out. Then, movesets would be a wee bit easier.
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No need when we've had knowledge of every new Pokemon's moves/stats/traits for months now. It helps to be prepared in advance.

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grass rope... who will that keep away other than snorlax? and no, i'm not asking in a judgemental way. i'd appreciate it if you enlightened me. ^.^

i thought of the tail glow sweeping, but grass rope... i haven't had the opportunity of seeing how well it works, so how effective is it in competitive battling?
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(Except for Japan citizens) If I were you, I'd wait till D/P comes out. Then, movesets would be a wee bit easier.
This is what Serebii.net is for. I just had a tough time picking a moveset. *Shrug*
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Grass Rope calculations

Less than 10 kg = 20 power
10.1 kg - 25.0 kg = 40 power
25.1 kg - 50.0 kg = 60 power
50.1 kg - 100.0 kg = 80 power
100.1 kg - 200.0 kg = 100 power
More than 200.1 kg = 120 power


120 Base Power

Aggron
Aruseus
Camerupt
Dainose
Dosaidon**
Dotaitos
Glalie
Golem**
Groudon*
Gyarados
Hariyama
Kabarudon*
Kyogre*
Lapras*
Manmuu*
Mantine
Palkia
Regigigas
Regirock*
Snorlax
Steelix
Tyranitar*
Wailord*

100 Base Power
Berberuto (Licky2)
Claydol*
Cloyster*
Dewgong*
Donphan*
Electivire
Kingdra
Lunatone*
Machamp
Mewtwo
Mikaruge
Milotic*
Raikou
Rampard*
Slaking
Solrock*
Suicune*
Trideps
Ursaring
Walrein*
Yonowaaru

80 Base Power
Aerodactyl
Ampharos
Armaldo
Blastoise*
Cradily
Crescelia
Darkrai
Deoxys
Electrode
Erureido
Emperuto
Exploud
Feraligatr*
Flygon
Gaburaisu
Golduck*
Grumpig
Hypno
Kangaskhan
Kingler*
Ludicolo
Magcargo
Miltank
Mr. Mime
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Poliwrath*
Quagsire**
Sharpedo*
Slowbro*
Slowking*
Smeargle
Stantler
Starmie*
Swampert**
Tauros
Tentacruel

*2x weakness
**4x weakness

As you can see, Grass Rope is incredibly useful for lots of things that resist Water and Ice.


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I don't know if Manaphy is a good choice as there's only one, so you can get bad IVs or nature. Even if you restart your D/P Game, a Ranger cartridge can only transfer one Manaphy.
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I would suggest:

Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball
Surf

Go ahead and give it a Modest Nature as well. Manaphy is a very good Pokemon, and it also can be unpredictable due to it's Attack and Special Attack being equally good. I went with the Special Sweeping moveset due to the fact that it can learn Calm Mind. I used Shadow Ball over Energy Ball for 20% Chance of effect, as well as the extra 5 Power Points.
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Grass Rope calculations

Less than 10 kg = 20 power
10.1 kg - 25.0 kg = 40 power
25.1 kg - 50.0 kg = 60 power
50.1 kg - 100.0 kg = 80 power
100.1 kg - 200.0 kg = 100 power
More than 200.1 kg = 120 power


120 Base Power

Aggron
Aruseus
Camerupt
Dainose
Dosaidon**
Dotaitos
Glalie
Golem**
Groudon*
Gyarados
Hariyama
Kabarudon*
Kyogre*
Lapras*
Manmuu*
Mantine
Palkia
Regigigas
Regirock*
Snorlax
Steelix
Tyranitar*
Wailord*

100 Base Power
Berberuto (Licky2)
Claydol*
Cloyster*
Dewgong*
Donphan*
Electivire
Kingdra
Lunatone*
Machamp
Mewtwo
Mikaruge
Milotic*
Raikou
Rampard*
Slaking
Solrock*
Suicune*
Trideps
Ursaring
Walrein*
Yonowaaru

80 Base Power
Aerodactyl
Ampharos
Armaldo
Blastoise*
Cradily
Crescelia
Darkrai
Deoxys
Electrode
Erureido
Emperuto
Exploud
Feraligatr*
Flygon
Gaburaisu
Golduck*
Grumpig
Hypno
Kangaskhan
Kingler*
Ludicolo
Magcargo
Miltank
Mr. Mime
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Poliwrath*
Quagsire**
Sharpedo*
Slowbro*
Slowking*
Smeargle
Stantler
Starmie*
Swampert**
Tauros
Tentacruel

*2x weakness
**4x weakness

As you can see, Grass Rope is incredibly useful for lots of things that resist Water and Ice.


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oh so it actually takes weaknesses into account? that's awesome. i was thinking it would function like future sight and razor wind.

anywho, thanks a bunch! i was contemplating whether i was gonna have tangela's evo know grass rope and was at the verge of counting it out, but i've definitely reconsidered.
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I don't know if Manaphy is a good choice as there's only one, so you can get bad IVs or nature. Even if you restart your D/P Game, a Ranger cartridge can only transfer one Manaphy.
Or I could just save when the egg is close to hatching, then keep hatching and resetting until I get the right nature. :P
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Or I could just save when the egg is close to hatching, then keep hatching and resetting until I get the right nature. :P
I am pretty sure that Natures, etc are determined when the egg is laid, not hatched.
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I am pretty sure that Natures, etc are determined when the egg is laid, not hatched.
That's right. How the Pokémon will be is determined when you get the egg.
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Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball
Surf
Tail Glow > Calm Mind. Take advantage of Manaphy's sweeping abilities or else don't use it at all.

Shadow Ball is lol. Grass Rope is waaay better since it can actually come close to a OKO on all bulky Waters.


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Grass Rope calculations

Less than 10 kg = 20 power
10.1 kg - 25.0 kg = 40 power
25.1 kg - 50.0 kg = 60 power
50.1 kg - 100.0 kg = 80 power
100.1 kg - 200.0 kg = 100 power
More than 200.1 kg = 120 power


120 Base Power

Aggron
Aruseus
Camerupt
Dainose
Dosaidon**
Dotaitos
Glalie
Golem**
Groudon*
Gyarados
Hariyama
Kabarudon*
Kyogre*
Lapras*
Manmuu*
Mantine
Palkia
Regigigas
Regirock*
Snorlax
Steelix
Tyranitar*
Wailord*

100 Base Power
Berberuto (Licky2)
Claydol*
Cloyster*
Dewgong*
Donphan*
Electivire
Kingdra
Lunatone*
Machamp
Mewtwo
Mikaruge
Milotic*
Raikou
Rampard*
Slaking
Solrock*
Suicune*
Trideps
Ursaring
Walrein*
Yonowaaru

80 Base Power
Aerodactyl
Ampharos
Armaldo
Blastoise*
Cradily
Crescelia
Darkrai
Deoxys
Electrode
Erureido
Emperuto
Exploud
Feraligatr*
Flygon
Gaburaisu
Golduck*
Grumpig
Hypno
Kangaskhan
Kingler*
Ludicolo
Magcargo
Miltank
Mr. Mime
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Poliwrath*
Quagsire**
Sharpedo*
Slowbro*
Slowking*
Smeargle
Stantler
Starmie*
Swampert**
Tauros
Tentacruel

*2x weakness
**4x weakness

As you can see, Grass Rope is incredibly useful for lots of things that resist Water and Ice.


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Never knew about this, thanks! Anyway, Grass Knot (yes, that's the real name in English) does work good on Manaphy, but there's an alternative. I got everything from Serebii.net (my favorite site) and this is my findings:

1. Special Sweeper Manaphy
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
Nature: Modest (-Atk, +Sp. Atk)
Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot/Energy Ball/Psychic/Shadow Ball
Tail Glow
EV's: 6 HP, 252 Sp. Atk., 252 Speed

This set (which SPP predict will be the most used) is very straightforward: Use Tail Glow three times to max out your Special Attack and then go for it, using whatever is super effective. Usually, Grass attacks will be used because Psychic and Shadow Ball won't cover any much super-effectives, but they're options. However, its being straightforward makes it predictable and easy to counter.

2. Rain-Rest Manaphy
Item: Leftovers/Damp Rock
Ability: Hydration
Nature: Bold (-Atk, +Def) or Calm (-Atk, +Sp. Def)
Surf
Ice Beam/Energy Ball/Grass Knot/Psychic/Shadow Ball
Rain Dance
Rest
EV's: 252 HP, 148 Defense (Bold)/Sp. Def. (Calm), 110 Sp. Atk. or 252 HP, 182 Defense (Calm)/Sp. Def. (Bold), 76 Sp. Def. (Calm)/Defense (Bold)

This set fully abuses Hydration, Manaphy's ability. You have to pick only either versability or survival, and this one is survival. Whenever you need to recover already, use Rest while it's raining and your sleep status will be cured immediately. Leftovers are, as usual, for recovering every turn, while Damp Rock adds three turns to Rain Dance. By the way, Rain Dance also strengthens Surf. You pick whatever's the second attacking move.
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