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Old March 11th, 2007 (4:34 PM).
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Yup then get a male that knows it then breed it and a female Mudkip that knows it and what do you know you got yourself a Mudkip Lv.5 with Hydro Pump now all you need to do is level him up!
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Old March 11th, 2007 (5:56 PM).
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Mmm...Back up, I thought Swampert can't learn it.
Oh wait, just thought it out...
(poke in Swamperts group/Hydro Pump)+Female Mudkip=Mudkip Lv5/Hydro Pump

Right?
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yup that is very right.
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Old March 11th, 2007 (6:38 PM).
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Charizard @ Leftovers
Trait:Blaze
EVs: 28 HP / 252 Atk / 136 Spd / 92 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Wing Attack/Aerial Ace
- Fire Blast
Although Charizard is my Favorite Pokemon, I'm afraid to say Salamence holds superiority over this.

The only thing DDZard has going is that he can actually OHKO Skarm, unlike Salamence.


Swampert @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 120 Def / 80 SAtk / 40 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Hydro Pump
Surf is more accurate..im wondering if i should switch Hydropump with it...idk if i like protect either sure i dont get hit once but i cant do any damage..it's bassicly a move where nothing happens besides the opponent losing PP...
...As well as get extra lefties recovery, not to mention predict the enemy's next oncoming move.

And like I say, Surf is useless on Swampert. If you're not going to use Surf, then use an all Physical Swampert. =/



Alakazam @ Leftovers / Lum Berry
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fire Punch
- Recover
- Psychic
- Thunderpunch

Switched out Ice Punch with Recover..or should i use calm mind? Or should i keep ice and get rid of thunder or fire?
Put Ice Punch back in there. Recover on Zam is far too useless if you're not packing Defense and HP EVs of some sort.

Tyrantitar @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs:252 HP / 224 Atk / 32 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Substitute
- Focus Punch

Took out rockslide because i have EQ and switched TW with crunch because it looks pretty
Rock Slide offers STAB, which is something Earthquake doesn't offer. Not to mention that it can annihilate almost everything.

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 96 Atk / 152 Def / 56 SDef
Careful Nature (+SP def, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Shadow Ball
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Okay.

Dusclops @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EV's: 204 HP / 136 Atk / 56 Def / 112 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Will-o-wisp
- Shadow ball
- Pain Split
Clop has ABSOLUTELY NO HP to use Rest with.

Im thinking it's looking like a very pretty team...thanks for everyones help..it probably still needs to be fixed out...so please help lol
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Old March 13th, 2007 (1:31 PM).
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Ugh i accedently pressed the back button on my mouse so i have to retype everything again...lol


Switching Charzard with Salimence...

Salanebce @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EV's 4 HP/252 Attack/ 252 Speed
Adament Nature (+attack -Sp attack)
- Arial Ace
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Brick Break

w00t!!

And i got my Brave nature swampert..gunna breed for Hydro Pump

Putting Ice Punch back on Alakazam

Taking out EQ on Tryanitar replacing it with Crunch and replacing Focus Punch with Mega Kick/Punch because Focus Punch is bassicly a Hyperbeem in a fighting state...flinching after you use it..so unless i get something that can get rid of flinching..wich i havent looked up yet.

And putting Pain Split on Dusclops..

Only thing im worried about is Tryanitar's ability..and how it will affect my other pokes...

It's Sandstorm will slaughter everything..so either i have to use him last..or get rid of him

It would make a pretty effect..fighting someone and they think i have a wimpy pokemon last and use tryanitar and totally slaughter them..so idk..

Any help on Tryanitar's moves and his ability would be spectacular (And no i wont take him out he's to pretty)
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Old March 13th, 2007 (1:48 PM).
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Fixes and suggestions once again in bold:
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Ugh i accedently pressed the back button on my mouse so i have to retype everything again...lol


Switching Charzard with Salimence...

Salamence @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EV's 4 HP/252 Attack/ 252 Speed
Adamant Nature (+Atk -SAtk)
- Arial Ace
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Brick Break / Rock Slide

Don't use CBmence on a team with Tyranitar. It really needs that HP recovery from Leftovers to counter the Sandstorm. Rock Slide is also preferred over Brick Break, but if you can't get it then you can't get it.


w00t!!

And i got my Brave nature swampert..gunna breed for Hydro Pump

Putting Ice Punch back on Alakazam

Taking out EQ on Tryanitar replacing it with Crunch and replacing Focus Punch with Mega Kick/Punch because Focus Punch is bassicly a Hyperbeem in a fighting state...flinching after you use it..so unless i get something that can get rid of flinching..wich i havent looked up yet.

No, no, no, no. Do not replace Focus Punch. It is nothing like the craptacular Hyper Beam. You just aren't understanding how to use it. Competitively, you use it against your opponent when they switch out a Poke against you. Focus Punch goes last and will only hit if your Tyranitar doesn't get attacked that turn. When an opponent switches out, they don't attack that turn, allowing Tyranitar's Focus Punch to hit whatever Poke comes in against it.

Against the pathetic AI that would rather lose than switch out, your strategy is different. This is where Substitute comes in. Bring in Tyranitar against a Poke that it is strong against, and then use Substitute. The weak attack (or if the AI uses an non-attacking move which it is often prone to do) won't break the Sub that turn. Now you have at least one free turn with Focus Punch. Anything your opponent does will be absorbed by the Sub, allowing your Focus Punch to hit. The SubPunch combo is deadly effective on Pokes like Tyranitar, Gengar, Dragonite, and even Aggron.

BTW - avoid using Normal moves on non-Normal Pokes whenever possible. Normal attacks offer no benefit whatsoever.


And putting Pain Split on Dusclops..

Only thing im worried about is Tryanitar's ability..and how it will affect my other pokes...

It's Sandstorm will slaughter everything..so either i have to use him last..or get rid of him

It would make a pretty effect..fighting someone and they think i have a wimpy pokemon last and use tryanitar and totally slaughter them..so idk..

Any help on Tryanitar's moves and his ability would be spectacular (And no i wont take him out he's to pretty)
In-game, its trait doesn't matter at all. Unless you are like me and have a personal rule of never using items during a battle. When you battle competitively though, Tyranitar's trait can really screw up your opponent, not to mention yourself if you are not careful. Just make sure that your Pokes have Leftovers to nullify the HP loss, and having more than one Ground/Rock/Steel-type (or a Poke with the Sand Veil Trait) doesn't hurt either.
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Old March 14th, 2007 (7:12 PM).
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Okay thanks for the explanation about the Focus Punch

Also i am going to use a Brave nature(+attack -speed) Bagon instead, and try and breed for a careful nature Snorelax.
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Old March 14th, 2007 (10:27 PM).
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Brave is a wasted nature on Salamence. Go with Adamant. If you REALLY don't like the SAtk drop, use Naughty.
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Ugh need to breed for two more pokemon and im finnally done...

Brave Lavitar and a Careful Snorelax...

I breeded for a Impish Duskull w/Pain Split
Adament Bagon
Timid Abra with Ice/Fire/Thunder punch -omfg yay
And a Brave Mudkip because i evolved it not knowing Swampert couldnt learn Hydrop Pump

Theese last two are gunna be hard..10,000 steps each..
Im doing Lavitar right now and i have a half a box full of Lavitars just hoping one will hatch into a brave one..
then after i finish that hopefully will be in the next hour have to go onto snorelax.
I have a Careful Ditto but i dont know if that will rais the chance of getting a Careful Snorelax (Breeding in Saphire)
Also i have a Slugma with Magma Armor in my party..but i dont think it's cutting my steps in half at all..=[
so hopefully i will be done soon..
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Slugma/Magcargo will only cut steps in Emerald.
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Old March 17th, 2007 (9:47 PM).
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Lol thanks.

I just spent all day hurting my fingers by breeding..

Lol i have like 2 and a half boxes full of just snorelaxes...
i relesed every other pokemon after i got the one i needed..otherwise all my boxes would be packed. I also have a box full of eggs i cant get rid of...
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Old March 18th, 2007 (6:24 PM).
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Lol i know that..

can anyone tell me why i cant trade Lavitar and Snorelax into Emereld but i can trade to Saphire?

I have all the badges in Saphire if that makes a difference?
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Old March 19th, 2007 (4:09 AM). Edited March 19th, 2007 by kripwok.
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imo, i think its better if you use the 4 moves more wisely; as combos ..for an example..

Snorlax @ Chesto Berry (awakening)
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 96 Atk / 152 Def / 56 SDef
Careful Nature (+SP def, -SAtk)
- substitute
- focus punch (pp max)
- Rest
- Belly Drum

First use belly drum to max the attack power then rest, chesto berry awakens snorlax.
Substitute then keep on focus punchin'..well i know its a long procedure but worthy though.

do the same with other pokes...
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Old March 19th, 2007 (8:39 AM).
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Lol i know that..

can anyone tell me why i cant trade Lavitar and Snorelax into Emereld but i can trade to Saphire?

I have all the badges in Saphire if that makes a difference?
I have told you this before. You cannot trade to Emerald until you have the National Pokedex. You get the NP after you defeat the Weak5.

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imo, i think its better if you use the 4 moves more wisely; as combos ..for an example..

Snorlax @ Chesto Berry (awakening)
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 96 Atk / 152 Def / 56 SDef
Careful Nature (+SP def, -SAtk)
- substitute
- focus punch (pp max)
- Rest
- Belly Drum

First use belly drum to max the attack power then rest, chesto berry awakens snorlax.
Substitute then keep on focus punchin'..well i know its a long procedure but worthy though.

do the same with other pokes...
Sorry, but that is a very bad moveset. Ghost Pokes likes Gengar switch in and laugh at you since you cannot hit them, forcing you to switch out and lose the effect of Belly Drum. Stalkerlax or Curselax are both MUCH more effective.
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yeah you got a good point there..^i was focusing on the "focus punch" attack..
but why would you use a snorlax to ghost pokes if you have other pokes..?
anyway, if not anticipated..u're point would apply..
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Old March 20th, 2007 (1:57 PM).
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yeah you got a good point there..^i was focusing on the "focus punch" attack..
but why would you use a snorlax to ghost pokes if you have other pokes..?
anyway, if not anticipated..u're point would apply..
Not sure exactly what you mean here. If you are asking why you would give a Ghost move (i.e. Shadow Ball) to Snorlax, then your answer is actually in your Snorlax moveset. While your moveset cannot touch Ghost-types, adding Shadow Ball will not only touch them, but will be super effective.

If you are asking why you would switch in Snorlax against a Ghost-type, that really depends on the Ghost-type and whether you are playing in-game or not. In-game, you would be fine because Ghost moves cannot hit Normal-types, so you would be free to attack them with a SE Shadow Ball since the AI is too limited by the programmers to be smart enough to switch out. If you are playing against someone else and they had a Gengar in play, you would have to wonder if they were packing a Focus Punch of their own. Most other Ghost-types either cannot or normally do not have Fighting moves so you would be okay.
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Lol okay what i dont get is why i cant get snorlax in Emereld..

I can get abra but not snorelax? i dont think that really makes sence
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Old March 23rd, 2007 (3:53 AM).
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Simple. Abra is part of the Hoenn Pokedex, while Snorlax is not. You can only trade Snorlax to Emerald if (a) you have the National Pokedex meaning you have defeated the Weak5, or (b) you traded it from Pokemon Colosseum.
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Old March 23rd, 2007 (12:35 PM).
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aw i dont have that game. That meens i need 2 fillers until after the elite four.
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