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Old March 9th, 2007 (1:02 AM).
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A theme team composed of, you guessed it, Bug-types.


Ninjask @ Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Silver Wind
- Substitute
- Baton Pass

Yeah, it's a Ninjask. Passing Speed Boosts and potentially a Substitute lets Armaldo reign. If I'm at all able to pass some Swords Dances, I could really wreak havoc with Armaldo. Though I was initially thinking of making this a Scizor so that I could pass Agility AND Swords Dance since Scizor's able to take on a few Pokemon himself, and still be able to pass some buffs.


Forretress @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Impish Nature(+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Hidden Power [Steel] / Explosion
- Light Screen

If ever I need to start buffing with Ninjask (or Scizor) again, Light Screen really helps. Spike up, Screen up, and kaboom for the painful switch.


Armaldo @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Blast / Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Iron Tail / Aerial Ace

Okay, once it gets the proper buffs from Ninjask (or Scizor), all I have to do is to start sweeping. Notice that it's not CB because I though it would be overkill. Also, it needs to be able to use different moves consecutively so that I'm not forced to switch just to have to start buffing again. HP Bug is STAB, Rock Blast is for Subbers (though I doubt they'll even be able to set one up while facing a fully buffed Armaldo) or Rock Slide for more reliable power and accuracy, also to take care of silly Skarms that think they can take it on. Iron Tail is a filler. I'd really rather replace it for a more dependable move, like maybe Brick Break to use against Blissey, but I'm not yet sure. Maybe Aerial Ace for Heracross.



Heracross @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Facade

It's a Heracross. I was never really fond of the whole deliberately-get-a-status-condition-to-activate-Guts thing. But hey, if it works, then why not? Switch in on a predicted Will-o-Wisp or Thunder Wave (maybe even a Toxic if I'm feeling risky), then proceed to sweep. Though Facade gets no STAB, it will still hurt many, many things with its special effect that make it like getting Guts twice, plus a Choice Band damage boost. Passing from Ninjask when I predict a Paralysis move is a great way to pump up this beast.


Volbeat @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
Brave Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Tail Glow
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave

I need SOME sort of special passer... At least he's here. I hate condemning myself to the fact that Volbeat is altogether a pathetic Pokemon.



Parasect @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Solarbeam
- Spore
- Sunny Day

I'm at a loss of Bug Pokemon. Parasect is the only one I see fitting for a Special Sweeper role. Hopefully after Volbeat passes some TGs over, Sunnybeaming KOs SOME waters. This kinda-sorta scares off Surfing, T-bolting Starmie, but other than that, nothing comes to mind.



The Scizor set would've looked like this:

Scizor @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Swords Dance
- Silver Wind
- Baton Pass

Scizor's got some good Defenses, so it might be able to set up a bit. Not many teams lead with a fire anyway (Salamence and Flygon with FB seem to be turning up less and less as leads, though the occassional Blaziken is fearless against this).



I'm relying a lot on Baton Passing since not many Bug Pokemon can hold their own. Oh, well. I'm doing this out of boredom anyway. Rate, and please be nice...
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Old March 9th, 2007 (1:34 AM). Edited March 9th, 2007 by Alter Ego.
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A theme team composed of, you guessed it, Bug-types.


Ninjask @ Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Silver Wind
- Substitute
- Baton Pass

Yeah, it's a Ninjask. Passing Speed Boosts and potentially a Substitute lets Armaldo reign. If I'm at all able to pass some Swords Dances, I could really wreak havoc with Armaldo. Though I was initially thinking of making this a Scizor so that I could pass Agility AND Swords Dance since Scizor's able to take on a few Pokemon himself, and still be able to pass some buffs.

More like CBJask imo:

Ninjask @ Choice Band
Trait: Speed Boost
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
EVs: 96 HP / 252 Atk / 160 Spd
Aerial Ace
Silver Wind
Hidden Power [Fighting/Ground]
Shadow Ball/Baton Pass

It's very cool because people don't expect it. Shadow Ball is an OHKO on Gengar, AA takes care of Hera, and STAB Silver Wind or AA generally hurts.


Forretress @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Impish Nature(+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin/Hidden Power [Steel]
- Hidden Power [Steel] / Explosion Rest
- Light Screen

If ever I need to start buffing with Ninjask (or Scizor) again, Light Screen really helps. Spike up, Screen up, and kaboom for the painful switch.

Don't even think about Explosion. This team needs walls like living things need water, so Rest, please.

Armaldo @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Blast / Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Iron Tail / Aerial Ace Swords Dance/Rapid Spin

Okay, once it gets the proper buffs from Ninjask (or Scizor), all I have to do is to start sweeping. Notice that it's not CB because I though it would be overkill. Also, it needs to be able to use different moves consecutively so that I'm not forced to switch just to have to start buffing again. HP Bug is STAB, Rock Blast is for Subbers (though I doubt they'll even be able to set one up while facing a fully buffed Armaldo) or Rock Slide for more reliable power and accuracy, also to take care of silly Skarms that think they can take it on. Iron Tail is a filler. I'd really rather replace it for a more dependable move, like maybe Brick Break to use against Blissey, but I'm not yet sure. Maybe Aerial Ace for Heracross.

Or maybe...not. It's very unlikely that Scizor will manage to pass along all you need before you're either phazed out or just plain forced to switch under pressure of being annihilated so SD is definitely useful here too, although you could also try putting Rapid Spin on this to liberate a moveslot from Forry. :3

Heracross @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch Rest
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Facade Sleep Talk

It's a Heracross. I was never really fond of the whole deliberately-get-a-status-condition-to-activate-Guts thing. But hey, if it works, then why not? Switch in on a predicted Will-o-Wisp or Thunder Wave (maybe even a Toxic if I'm feeling risky), then proceed to sweep. Though Facade gets no STAB, it will still hurt many, many things with its special effect that make it like getting Guts twice, plus a Choice Band damage boost. Passing from Ninjask when I predict a Paralysis move is a great way to pump up this beast.

Nyu, there's nothing wrong with CB Hera per-say, but this team has zero status resistance and sucks at walling, so more like STalker imo.

Volbeat @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
Brave Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Tail Glow
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave

I need SOME sort of special passer... At least he's here. I hate condemning myself to the fact that Volbeat is altogether a pathetic Pokemon.

No you don't. Bugs suck at special attacks and Volbeat sucks at taking hits. Also, why the Brave nature? It doesn't have any damaging attacks to make use of it. Please tell me you tried to go with Bold.


Parasect @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Solarbeam
- Spore
- Sunny Day


I'm at a loss of Bug Pokemon. Parasect is the only one I see fitting for a Special Sweeper role. Hopefully after Volbeat passes some TGs over, Sunnybeaming KOs SOME waters. This kinda-sorta scares off Surfing, T-bolting Starmie, but other than that, nothing comes to mind.

No...just no...what on earth posessed you to turn a 4x Fire weak with a practically non-existent Speed stat and horribly mediocre SAtk into a Sunnybeamer? Sunnybeaming isn't worth it unless you have cholorphyll and at least a formidable SAtk. Just drop this, please, even by bug standards it's weak. And don't even get me started about how Sunny Day screws over the rest of your team. Incidentally, Surfing and T-Bolting Starmie laughs at this because it can hit you with Surf before Spore comes in and then just switch out to get rid of the status condition. This thing can't even swing for damage since you have to set up with Sunny Day. :\

The Scizor set would've looked like this:

Scizor @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Swords Dance
- Silver Wind
- Baton Pass

Scizor's got some good Defenses, so it might be able to set up a bit. Not many teams lead with a fire anyway (Salamence and Flygon with FB seem to be turning up less and less as leads, though the occassional Blaziken is fearless against this).



I'm relying a lot on Baton Passing since not many Bug Pokemon can hold their own. Oh, well. I'm doing this out of boredom anyway. Rate, and please be nice...
Urgh, some terribly weak pokes here...at the very least, ditch Volbeat and Parasect, they are doing absolutely nothing for your team. .___. As replacements, I'd suggest:

Shedinja @ Lum Berry
Trait: Wonder Guard
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SAtk
Shadow Ball
Silver Wind/Hidden Power [Bug]
Hidden Power [Fighting]/Aerial Ace
Swords Dance

If you can pull of passing a sub and Agility from Scizor then this thing can actually wreak havoc with that hefty attack stat. This is what scares off Starmie since boltbeamers (Or surfers) can't do crap against Sheddy. And trust me, those STAB Bug and Ghost attacks really smart. Since you have a spinner on your team spikes won't stop it, but TTar screws this one over.

Also, as the second replacement:

Butterfree @ Leftovers
Trait: Compound Eyes
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
Hidden Power [Ice]
Giga Drain
Sleep Powder
Stun Spore

Good ol' double powder. It's not a particularly glorious pokémon, but it might just save your butt. With Compoundeyes, you've got near-perfect accuracy with Sleep Powder and perfect with Stun Spore. Hidden Power [Ice] at least sort of dents Mence on the switch-in (You'll have to damage calculate for the right amount of SAtk, though) and Giga Drain attempts to do the same against Pert and the like. It's definitely not an OHKO against either, but with the right EVs you might be able to pull off a 2-hit KO. Just about the only bug who can - sort of - use special attacks.


Bleah, glaring weaks against Rock and Fire. This thing will probably fail severely unless it's against another monotype team (one which isn't Rock, Steel or Fire). Steelix and Skarm have lolfest with this team, and Metagross will also strike you in many awkward places. Where are the EVs? o.O
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Uhh, yeah... That WAS supposed to be bold... I guess I forgot to change the nature's name when I changed the stats. And no EVs yet since I'm not ready to put this into NB yet. Not that it matters now, though. The team is too weak on its own and it's got a huge red sign that says:


HEY! LOOK AT US! WE'RE WEAK TO FIRE!



You will find Armaldo sitting somewhere away from this sign, possibly in a corner, sobbing.


Ah, well. Thanks, everyone.
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Nyu, you could actually try expanding to just bugish-looking pokémon or the bug egg group, that way you could add in Flygon to lessen the fire weak. You could also even try Shuckle...although how much that one helps is anyone's guess. But yeah, bugs are pretty screwed because of their lack of type combos and generally subpar statlines. xP
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venomoth: awesome for special attacking.
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Okay, let's say I DID go for the bug-ish Pokemon instead of the Bug-types per se. Besides Flygon, what else could belong there? Butterfree's looking pretty nasty (meant in a good way) and Pinsir crossed my mind more than once...

Let's see...

Pinsir @ Leftovers
Trait: Hyper Cutter
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide

Decent defense. Helps with setting up.

I'll put Butterfree in place of Parasect.
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venomoth: awesome for special attacking.
I agree. 3 decent Special Attack options, one being Hidden Power, and no stat increasing moves makes it a great Special Sweeper.
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I agree. 3 decent Special Attack options, one being Hidden Power, and no stat increasing moves makes it a great Special Sweeper.
I feel this post brimming with sarcasm.


I think that a better special attacker would have been Masquerain. Its stats are as bad as Venomoth's, but its movepool isn't as limited; being able to learn Giga Drain, Ice Beam/Blizzard, Hydro Pump, and Hidden Power.

Venomoth and Dustox are almost the same so Dustox is out of the question.

As I extend the range of my theme team to the insect egg group, Gligar is promising. But special attacks are my biggest concern so I guess Flygon will have to do.

More suggestions please. >.<
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venomoth has a base spd and sp attack of 90 while masqerain is looking at 60 and 80. dustox is looking at 50 and 65. notice i did not say a special sweeper. it's only good for giga drain, psychic and HP. a female venomoth with psychic, giga drain, attract and toxic/protect has a pretty good potential. you could also go for one with hp, giga drain/psychic, sleep powder and double team.
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"Special Attacker" signifies "Special Sweeper". While Base 90 is a decent SAtk stat, Venomoth doesn't really have any REAL potential of pulling it off without STAB or stronger moves.

Attract has no potential whatsoever, seeing as annoyance generally fails/is frowned upon. Double Team is just no. Period. It's much more fulfilling to at least make use of its Double Powdering abilites, and perhaps even Sludge Bomb/Signal Beam (which STAB does help make up for its lower Atk stat).
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