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Old March 28th, 2007 (6:05 AM).
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Plz rate my team. i don't rlly like ghost/psychic types since they don't look good so yah...

Fireheart (charizard)
Lv 63
Wing attack
Dragon claw
Flamethrower
Blast Burn

Zapdos
Lv 55
Thunderwave
agility
thunderbolt
drill peck

Dragonite
lv 61
outrage
thunder
wing attack
safeguard

Pidgeot
lv 43
Wing attack
fly
quick attack
feather dance

Lapras
lv 46
Ice beam
surf
strength/waterfall
confuse ray

Nidoking
lv 43
Megahorn
strength
double kick
peck

charizard, dragonite, zapdos and lapras are my main pokemon. pidgeot and nidokingare just for support...
plz rate and improve it!
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Old March 28th, 2007 (7:16 AM).
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It's isn't a good idea to pick Pokes based on their looks, but it is your team. Also, please include natures when you want a proper rate of your team. Natures are very important and can influence the moveset a Poke has. Fixes and suggestions in bold:
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Fireheart (Charizard) @ Leftovers / Shell Bell
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)

Lv 63
- Wing Attack / Aerial Ace
- Swords Dance / Dragon Dance
- Earthquake / Rock Slide

- Flamethrower

Charizard is best used as a physical attacker. Swords Dance is preferred, since it makes it Atk raise by 2 levels instead of 1, like Dragon Dance does. Wing Attack is fine, but Aerial Ace's never miss effect is much better. Earthquake and Rock Slide are your preference. NEVER give the same Poke two attacks of the same type (not called Quick Attack or Mach Punch) and especially don't give a Poke a crappy two-turn move like Blast Burn. You can do more damage attacking twice in two turns with Flamethrower than you can attacking once in two turns with Blast Burn. If you want more power, go with Fire Blast or Overheat instead.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)

Lv 55
- Thunder Wave
- Agility
- Thunderbolt
- Drill Peck

A Zapdos.

Dragonite @ Leftovers / Shell Bell
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)

lv 61
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Hmmm. A third Poke weak to Ice, only 4x weak this time. Not very good strategy. I would immediately get rid of Charizard and make this your Dragon Dancer, but it is your team. Your best bet would be to go with a SubPuncher. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt cover almost all the types in the game, and Focus Punch takes care of Pokes that resist the aforementioned moves. Just don't use Outrage outside of DP. The only thing worse than a two-turn move is one that lasts three turns and then confuses your Poke afterwards. Dragon Claw is infinitely better.


Pidgeot @ Shell Bell / Lum Berry
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

lv 43
- Wing Attack / Aerial Ace
- Return
- Steel Wing

- Quick Attack

Ugh. A FOURTH Ice weakness, a FOURTH Rock weakness, and a second Electric weakness. I would highly suggest Dodrio over this Poke since it is stronger, faster, and has a better move (80 AP Drill Peck instead of 60 AP Wing Attack / Aerial Ace). Return is a good option here and Steel Wing can help against Rock-types that otherwise ruin its day. Seriously though, get rid of a few of these common weaknesses. Also, NEVER use any HMs not called Surf. The rest are complete crap. Fly is not only a crap HM move, but also a crap two-turn move.

Lapras @ Leftovers / Chesto Berry
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

lv 46
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Rest / Sing
- Thunderbolt

We now have a FIFTH Rock weakness and a THIRD Electric weakness. Lapras is definitely a keeper though, with its ability to take hits and it versatility to attack so many different types. Chesto Berry gives you a free Rest too.


Nidoking @ Choice Band / Leftovers / Shell Bell
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

lv 43
- Megahorn
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Sludge Bomb

Just so the Rock weakness wouldn't be lonely, here is a FIFTH Ice weakness. Yikes! Nidoking is a straight up physical sweeper. A STAB Earthquake and Sludge Bomb is great. Rock Slide takes down Flying-types and Megahorn rips through Dark and Grass-types.


charizard, dragonite, zapdos and lapras are my main pokemon. pidgeot and nidokingare just for support...
plz rate and improve it!
You probably don't want me to give it a rating as there are way too many weaknesses. You may be able to take advantage of the pathetic AI with your higher level Pokes, but that doesn't make your team good. If the AI wasn't limited to allow a six-year old to beat it, it would bring in any number of different Pokes (anything with an Ice or Rock move) to easily destroy your team.

To improve this team, you have to make some serious changes. Getting rid of two or three of your Flying-types is a start. Pidgeot should go regardless, and Charizard should be another one. If you keep two of the four, I would HIGHLY suggest you add a special wall to your team. Blissey or Snorlax would do wonders. Snorlax especially since it can take special attacks very easily and then fight back where Blissey cannot. Your hatred of Psychic/Ghost Pokes is limiting your team as well. An Alakazam would fit well here, in place of one of the birds, but again it is your team. Good luck.
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Old March 28th, 2007 (8:30 AM).
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You can't say it any better than ShanecDavis did. You shouldn't restrict your pokes because you think some look kewl. You also can't make it easy to sweep your team by having the same weaknesses on all your pokes.

Here's a link that will help find out what a teams weaknesses and strengths are and help you balance out a team...

Psypoke Type Analysis

Put in your team and see how bad of shape you are in against certain types. This will let you replace some of the pokes you aren't so sure of with pokes that could better switch into your weaknesses.
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well actually, i play a real GBA so i can't trade with anyone since everyone is playing the new NDS and the only friend i had to trade with was in canada...

so i can't get any of the traded pokemon like alakazam/gengar etc

anyways charizard isn't weak to ice due to it's primary fire type and i prefer elementary types rather than normal types.

i changed charizards moveset a bit

fly
dragon claw
flamethrower
blast burn

plz rate
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well actually, i play a real GBA so i can't trade with anyone since everyone is playing the new NDS and the only friend i had to trade with was in canada...

so i can't get any of the traded pokemon like alakazam/gengar etc

anyways charizard isn't weak to ice due to it's primary fire type and i prefer elementary types rather than normal types.

i changed charizards moveset a bit

fly
dragon claw
flamethrower
blast burn

plz rate
Wow, you changed one move and made it worse. .___. Never-EVER use sucky two-turn moves like Fly or Blast Burn. Like Shane said, the single-turn variants deal more damage in the same time and don't leave you with a turn of inactivity. Shane's suggestions still stand. :O
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actually, i put fly only because of the fact that i wanted to remove pidgeot and i needed a pokemon with fly...
charizard seemed like the best choice unless i should put it on dragonite?? or some other..
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actually, i put fly only because of the fact that i wanted to remove pidgeot and i needed a pokemon with fly...
charizard seemed like the best choice unless i should put it on dragonite?? or some other..
No, just no. Don't use HM moves other than Surf on the pokémon you battle with. If you need them for travel and whatnot then use an HM-slave (That is, a pokémon packed with HM moves) and exchange it out from the party when you don't need it. In this case, basically any flying type will do.
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well actually, i play a real GBA so i can't trade with anyone since everyone is playing the new NDS and the only friend i had to trade with was in canada...

so i can't get any of the traded pokemon like alakazam/gengar etc

anyways charizard isn't weak to ice due to it's primary fire type and i prefer elementary types rather than normal types.

i changed charizards moveset a bit

fly
dragon claw
flamethrower
blast burn

plz rate
There are a few things you aren't getting. Just because Charizard is a Fire-type, doesn't mean it isn't weak to Ice. What exactly can Charizard do against a Blastoise that has Ice Beam? What about a Dragonite with Ice Beam? Blissey? Kingdra? Alakazam with Ice Punch? Gengar? There are 141 Poke in the game that can learn Ice Beam that aren't Ice-type.

As for trading, I bought a regular old Game Boy Color for about 10 bucks and then bought another used game (Ruby) for 15 at my local Game Stop. I was then able to make trades. Where there is a will, there is a way.
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There are a few things you aren't getting. Just because Charizard is a Fire-type, doesn't mean it isn't weak to Ice. What exactly can Charizard do against a Blastoise that has Ice Beam? What about a Dragonite with Ice Beam? Blissey? Kingdra? Alakazam with Ice Punch? Gengar? There are 141 Poke in the game that can learn Ice Beam that aren't Ice-type.

As for trading, I bought a regular old Game Boy Color for about 10 bucks and then bought another used game (Ruby) for 15 at my local Game Stop. I was then able to make trades. Where there is a will, there is a way.
Actually, Zard isn't ice-weak outside of R/B/Y. Fires resist ice, flyings are weak against it, so Fire/Flying takes neutral. In most of these cases, Zard would only be in trouble if there was a Water or electric type attack on the way. It doesn't really do for Blissey to sitt around I-Beaming a Zard unless it's very confident of its defenses. :3
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is there any pokemon that can actually learn 4 hms at once??? maybe 2 with 4 hms each?
if u do tell me plz.. i seriously can't stand one pokemon having one and then another having another hm and so on...
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is there any pokemon that can actually learn 4 hms at once??? maybe 2 with 4 hms each?
if u do tell me plz.. i seriously can't stand one pokemon having one and then another having another hm and so on...
Well, there are plenty in R/S/E (Tropius, Zigzagoon, and Claydol come to mind) but with FR/LG the selection isn't as good. One that does come to mind is Gyarados (Strength/Surf/Waterfall/Rock Smash), you can catch those by fishing with a Good or Super Rod south of Pallet Town. Then there's Aerodactyl (Fly/Strength/Rock Smash), but it's a right shame to degrade that one. There's a bunch of two-trick ponies too, such as Oddish and Bellsprout (Cut/Flash) so yeah, just pick the ones you need for the occasion. Usually, that's Fly, Surf (should be on your team anyway), and Strength, although Rock Smash and Flash feature occasionally. Ehh...yeah, those are the ones I can think of atm. ^-^
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i'll try gyrados and some other one then... thnx
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well Meowth can learn Cut/Strength/Flash and many many pokemon can learn Fly such as those Pidgeys you caught early on in the game thinking you would never use.
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