Clean Up time.
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That is why I Use Return. It's Power is 120 when Max Friendship And is Loads More Dependable than Counter when facing a special sweeper.
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It's Base 102. One. Zero. Two. One hundred two.
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Also Counter works great but, at a cost: You must play "Guess which type of Attack I am going to use" and move Appropiately. That is why I use Earthquake with Return.
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Note how Earthquake has a Base 150 power after STAB. 150 > 102. It's also not that hard to "Guess" what move an opponent has, since a competent battler knows standard sets. Zapdos normally carries HP Grass. Seeing as that's one of the very few ways Zapdos has to do any major damage to Swampert, you can safely Counter knowing you will knock back the damage at it. If it doesn't, then you're still at a high amount of health anyway. If it's in-game, you can easily predict a Snorlax Body Slam or Heracross Megahorn. Even if you don't, your team should be solid enough to handle the predicament anyway.
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That way I wont get my posterior kicked the first time because I failed to predict their Strategy in time to counter it. And earthquake is there when I Need a STAB move to quickly kill whatever is on the field be it a sweeper or a wall or even an annoyer. Keep in mind that I also use this Swampert for 2v2 Battles with a flying type or a pokemon with the levitate ability.
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Competent battling one on one: Use common sense for prediction. Also, Swampert has Ice Beam, or even Rock Slide if you like that, for hitting Flying types, which will do more than Return will.
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Its hasty nature isnt for outrunning sweepers and other pokemon meant to be faster.
I Purposely Breed a Hasty Swampert Because it needs to be faster than walls and other overpowered pokemon. Usually when someone trains for atk/spatk/hp or def/spdef/hp or any other combination of three stats not including speed, they neglect speed.
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What are you trying to outrun? You can't Top Heracross, Salamence, Raikou, Dugtrio, or Aerodactyl's speed, so there's no way you will "outrun" them. It's better for it's HP and Defenses to be high enough to soak up the damage, and hit them back where it hurts. Or if you can't, you still have 5 other Pokemon. As for walls, they're meant to be slow anyway, since they emphasize HP and defenses, meaning you wouldn't need that much speed to take them on anyway.
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Oh and on Blizzard, I use it because In my Experience, it hits more consistently than Hydro Pump ever did for me. Now I know you will yet again point to Hydro pump's higher accuracy rating and say You are crazy or dumb noob.
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Blizzard's ratio of hitting based on your past experiences as opposed to Hydro Pump hitting is not a factor of strategy. The probability that Hydro Pump will hit more often, based on its higher accuracy, is. Also note, that Ice Beam, for Swampert, will KO things at the same rate as Ice Beam will, except Ice Beam won't miss on that one turn you need it, and has 5 more PP. That's strategy.
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Honestly, I think the only one who has posted in this thread that has more consistant and accurate information and experience than I is Shanecdavis. And even he should know the value of following certain hunches when it come to move sets. The one thing most people dont understand about Playing pokemon is that it isnt always numbers and stats and natures that makes the difference. Sometimes you must take what you have and adapt it, mold it to your strategy and then go and kick some rear without thinking twice about the weaknesses you werent able to cover due to in-game rules. The point of pokemon is not to create an invincible team. There is no such thing as an invincible team!
The point is to create the best team you can and prove, through battling others , that you are the most knowelgble, patient,intutive,and skilled trainer there is.
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I suppose we should believe in the Heart of the Cards as well.
Of course there is no such thing as the "invincible team." If I recall correctly, which I do, no one has ever mentioned, truthfully, that there was. Not only that, it's logically impossible. Our main goal is to create SOLID teams, while covering as many weaknesses and flaws as possible, so it will be easier to hold your own in battle. It's not all statistics, agreed, but it's not like Smeargle is going to survive a Heracross Megahorn because we've put so much effort into loving it and brushing its teeth.
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Finally I like to stay as far away as i can from "Movesets in a can" like Cursepert.
people tend to prepare for those and not having a unique moveset would render your strategy useless if they have already predicted which moveset you are using.
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Not necessarily. Just because you know I have a Choice Banded Tyranitar with a standard moveset doesn't mean you can really stop it from severely hurting your team.
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The point is to create the best team you can and prove, through battling others , that you are the most knowelgble, patient,intutive,and skilled trainer there is. While I tend to disagree with people on Strategy for many reasons of my own I still listen. I am just wiser than most members. It comes with age and lots of hours of tinkering with movesets. I usually adjust my movesets with every new generation. Obviously my suggestions are "so 3rd generation" because the moveset has been tested and has been proven stable throughout my play time.
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I recently contended with my comrade, shane, about how a user could still use his in-game Modest Swampert without Earthquake, even though shane suggested he rebreed for a nature that wouldn't hinder its Attack. We do listen. Our main problem is when randoms (not necessarily you) come in and try to rate teams, as if they were an authority, and suggest Overheat/Flamethrower/Ember/Fire Spin Charizard over Calm Mind/Surf/Rest/Roar Suicune. I also am willing to bet that as far as strategy, I have a more extensive knowledge than you where it counts.
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I have spent almost 1000 hours on the advance generation games and have used this moveset since its conception(212:31 on my first pokemon ruby savefile).
and If you take account of the fact that i have had little contact with the netbattling world due to lack of proper internet ready equipment, i think that i am very qualified to say that I am not a n00b.
I may seem n00bish beause i dont usually take the time to explain myself fully.
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Take into account that not all the strategies we provide are NetBattle based. In fact, we actually ask if the team is in-game, if that's not clear, and adapt movesets to that fashion. However, if a NetBattle strategy would still work In-game, that's what we will suggest.
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And finally on to you Synchronize. I dont know where you got the idea that you
are high enough to tell me where I can and cant post but know this:
I am NOT VERY FRIENDLY WHEN TREATED RUDELY.
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Don't turn all green on me and rip out of your shirt.
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and dont go and hide behind the fact you called me 'sir' either.
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"Sir" is part of my speech pattern. Helps with the sarcasm. That's nothing to hide behind, sir. Something like that would imply that I am afraid of you.
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I may have seemed offtopic or i may have been rude earlier but realize i am only hostile when immature people make smart posterior remarks or answers.
Please, Dont tempt me to explode. Because when the doodoo hits the fan we all get it in the face
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We are immature, yet you are the one using the word "doodoo" and asking us not to tempt you to get mad. You should come to grips with the fact that people will say many things to you on the internet, and hostile threats in reply are undaunting.
In more important news, an ant was crushed, today, by a size 9 1/2 Nike shoe. The authorities are trying to identify the exact type of shoe from the footprints, but most of yesterday's light shower has washed most of it away. There were no witnesses.