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Old April 3rd, 2007 (11:36 PM). Edited April 4th, 2007 by Iceman3k.
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Take special note that this is a favs team, so no Pokemon will be replaced. The movesets can be commented on. =)

...And this is probably what I'll be playing with most of the time instead of competitive play.

Staraptor (M) @ Choice Band ** Varth
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Return / Double Edge
- Brave Bird
- Close Combat
- Quick Attack
The mutilation that is named Staraptor.

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Raiden
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 136 Spd / 96 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power (Ice)
- Roost
- Light Screen
LS Zapdos, D/P Style.

Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers ** Grand Gaia
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 224 Atk / 32 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Stone Edge
- Crunch
- Earthquake
Big Wrecking Ball thingy.

Sceptile (M) @ Leftovers ** Big Pat
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 96 HP / 252 Spd / 160 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Hidden Power (Ice)
- Leaf Storm
I'm running Leaf Storm since it's not actually going to sweep anything. Classic SubSeeding Sceptile.

Kingdra (M) @ Leftovers ** World War
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 248 HP / 16 Spd / 244 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Rain Dance
- Hydro Pump
- Dragon Pulse
- Ice Beam
Special Sweeper.

Charizard (M) @ Leftovers ** Slater
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 220 Spd / 36 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Rush
Because Mixed Sweepers are cool.

As mentioned earlier, comment the movesets only. Thank you!
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Old April 4th, 2007 (12:02 AM).
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Staraptor (M) @ Choice Band ** Varth
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Brave Bird
- Close Combat
- Quick Attack

Recoil+Life Orb+Sandstorm+Stealth Rock weak means Staraptor dies in like 3 turns.

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Raiden
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 136 Spd / 96 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power (Ice)
- Roost
- Light Screen

Okay

Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers ** Grand Gaia
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 224 Atk / 32 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Stone Edge
- Crunch
- Earthquake

Meh, could work. CBer is still better though.

Sceptile (M) @ Leftovers ** Big Pat
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Hidden Power (Ice)
- Leaf Storm

I don't get why you gave it HP divisible by 4. It decreases the amount of Subs you can create by 1. Totally bad for a SubSeeder.

Kingdra (M) @ Leftovers ** World War
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Rain Dance
- Hydro Pump
- Dragon Pulse
- Ice Beam

Kingdra needs no speed at all. This majorly conflicts with Tyranitar and Charizard but whatever.

Charizard (M) @ Leftovers ** Slater
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 220 Spd / 36 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw

Dragon Rush sucks. I like this one better though

Charizard @Life Orb/Choice Glasses
EVs: 108 Atk / 148 Spd / 252 SAtk
Naive Nature
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Pulse
-Hidden Power [Grass]
-Focus Punch

No set up needed.
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Old April 4th, 2007 (8:20 AM).
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I like having *Somersault > *Double Edge on Staraptor. (Flying) + (Fight) will hit everything neutral so i don't see the appeal of *DoubleEdge. *Quick Attack is good for the extra effect and *Somersault would be good for the same reason. The extra effect lets you get in free damage. I also like ChoiceBand. If you went Life Orb i'd use *Roost so that he can extend his life a little.

ChoiceBand Tyranitar is so cool because of *Pursuit. He also gets it STAB as well. Now that there's also a glitch allowing you to choose another move after you use *Pursuit it is broken. Gengar is crapping his pants and Azelf ain't to crazy about it either.

I love SubSeeding. It's so annoying yet i still love it. Always go Divisible by 4 + 1 with all *Substituters as Aragornbird said.
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Old April 4th, 2007 (9:41 AM).
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yeah, i was thinking somersault (U-turn) as well.
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Old April 4th, 2007 (2:26 PM).
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Okay I'm just getting home, so I think I'll read and reply to some of the stuff posted

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Recoil+Life Orb+Sandstorm+Stealth Rock weak means Staraptor dies in like 3 turns.
I'll keep that in mind. I ran Life Orb because CB irritates the crap out of me sometimes. I'll find another item.

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I don't get why you gave it HP divisible by 4. It decreases the amount of Subs you can create by 1. Totally bad for a SubSeeder.
Because I wanted the boosted Leftovers Recovery, unless it's all been a total fable all this time =(

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Kingdra needs no speed at all.
I run with 210 Speed to outspeed anything else with 206-209 Speed in case I want to attack w/o having to use Rain Dance.

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Originally Posted by White Lotus
I like having *Somersault > *Double Edge on Staraptor. (Flying) + (Fight) will hit everything neutral so i don't see the appeal of *DoubleEdge.
Double-Edge gets the STAB Boost, which is basically the main reason that I use it. But I'll more than likely sacrifice DE for Return since that'll be 1 less recoil move that I have.
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Old April 4th, 2007 (3:29 PM).
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Because I wanted the boosted Leftovers Recovery, unless it's all been a total fable all this time =(
You can still have the boosted Leftover recovery. Just add 4 EV's or 1 Stat Point.

HP: 272 - 17 Per Turn
HP: 288 - 18 Per Turn
HP: 304 - 19 Per Turn
HP: 320 - 20 Per Turn
HP: 336 - 21 Per Turn

You had him at HP: 304 ~or~ 19 HP Per Turn

So just make it HP: 305 and you still get 19 Per Turn but you'll have 1 extra HP so you can make 4 Subs instead of 3.

At HP:304 you have 76 HP Subs.

After 3 you only have 76 HP left so you can't sub.

With HP:305 you have 76 HP Subs.

After 3 you have 77 HP left and can sub 1 more time leaving you 1 HP.

I know with Leftovers / *Leech Seed it doesn't exactly work like this but that is how the theory goes. That's why when you use *Substitute you still use the Magic # for HP but you add 1.
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Old April 4th, 2007 (3:54 PM).
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Ah, I get it now. That just made my day so much brighter. =D
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Old April 6th, 2007 (9:31 AM).
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Roost isnt good on Mukkuhawk (Im still gonna use this Jap. name cause its an awesome name) cause it dont have much hope but hit and run in the first place, plus the tar isnt making it any better

Plus I see no D/P starter on your favorites team, what do you have against Penguins? =(
 

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