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Old April 8th, 2007 (8:31 PM). Edited April 9th, 2007 by Mizuken.
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This is an in game team that I expect to see plenty of revisions. Here it goes.
PLZ rate

Empoleon
Mild
-Drill peck
-Brine or Surf
-Flash Canon
-Ice beam

Abomasnow
Adamant
-Woodhammer
-Earthquake
-Ice punch
-Ingrain

Claydol
Sassy
-toxic
-cosmic power
-rest
-psychic or rapid spin

Honchkrow
Jolly
-night slash
-areal ace
-Double team or haze
-Swagger or Thunder Wave

Giratina
Naughty
-Dragon claw
-Shadow claw
-Aura sphere
-Will-o-wisp

Edit: Ninjask
Naive or Hasty
-substitute
-sword dance
-baton pass
-silver wind or dig
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Old April 9th, 2007 (3:43 PM). Edited April 9th, 2007 by Iceman3k.
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This is an in game team that I expect to see plenty of revisions. Here it goes.
PLZ rate

Empoleon
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Flash Cannon
- Ice beam
The only thing Empoleon will ever be good at is Special Sweeping.

Abomasnow
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
-Wood Hammer
-Earthquake / Focus Punch
-Ice Beam
-Substitute
Ingrain only lures in Charizard. Ingrain is useless anyway.

Claydol
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Reflect
- Land Power / Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
I'd prolly run mine with Earthquake.

Honchkrow
Jolly
- night slash
- Drill Peck
- Haze
- Thunder Wave
Hax moves are for hags.

Giratina
Naughty
-Dragon claw
-Shadow claw
-Aura sphere
-Will-o-wisp
Dunno what I can do for you here.

Edit: Ninjask
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
-substitute
-sword dance
-baton pass
-silver wind or dig
Ninjask sucks anyway. No point in using it IMO.
This team desperately screams for Tyranitar and/or Gyarados to do a gang-bang sex job on it.
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Old April 9th, 2007 (8:17 PM).
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Instead of ninjask how about..

Lucario
-close combat
-extreme speed
-sword dance
-flash canon
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abomasnow's new ability will draw a snow storm which makes Blizzard's accuracy 100%, so be sure to go for that rather ice beam.

also, flash cannon is a special attack. why not abuse swords dance? i'd go for either stone edge, blaze kick or crunch.
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Old April 10th, 2007 (2:18 PM). Edited April 10th, 2007 by Mizuken.
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Due to the theoretical lack of tm's and possibly laziness, would these revised movesets be fine?


Empoleon
Modest
-Flash canon
-Brine or Surf
-Agility
-Ice beam

Abomasnow
brave
-Woodhammer
-Earthquake
-blizzard
-substitute

Claydol
Sassy
-earth power
-reflect
-rapid spin
-grass knot or ice beam

Honchkrow
Jolly
-night slash
-drill peck
-haze
-Thunder Wave

Giratina
Naughty
-Dragon claw
-Shadow claw
-Aura sphere
-Will-o-wisp

Lucario
adamant
-close combat
-extremespeed
-sword dance
-stone edge *I was also thinking maybe I should make a special lucario instead.*
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Old April 10th, 2007 (7:35 PM). Edited April 10th, 2007 by Iceman3k.
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Due to the theoretical lack of tm's and possibly laziness, would these revised movesets be fine?


Empoleon
Modest
-Flash canon
-Surf / Hydro Pump
-Agility
-Ice beam
Okay

Abomasnow
brave
-Woodhammer
-Earthquake
-blizzard / Ice Beam
-substitute
Unless it's a D/P only feature, far as I understand Hail doesn't make Blizzard 100% accurate. Besides, you're going to have Sandstorm to worry about.

Claydol
Sassy
-earth power
-reflect
-rapid spin
-Ice Beam
Stick with Ice Beam.

Honchkrow
Jolly
-night slash
-drill peck
-haze
-Thunder Wave
Okay.

Giratina
Naughty
-Dragon claw
-Shadow claw
-Aura sphere
-Will-o-wisp
Still leaving this one alone

Lucario
adamant
-close combat
-extremespeed
-sword dance
-stone edge *I was also thinking maybe I should make a special lucario instead.*
Replace this with Heracross IMO.
I dunno if Honchkrow will do you any good, so I'd probably replace that with LS Zapdos. This is what I run:

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Raiden
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 136 Spd / 96 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power (Ice)
- Roost
- Light Screen

EDIT: How stupid of me not to mention a good Heracross set =(

Heracross (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Guts
EVs: 76 HP / 180 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Stone Edge
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
This dude wrecks a LOT more than Lucario will ever hope to do.
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Empoleon w/Leftovers
'Torrent' : Ups (Water) attacks when HP is low.
<Bold : +Def / -Att>
* Surf
* Ice Beam
* Grass Knot
* Yawn / * Stealth Rock

<This is the Anti~Bulky Water / Bulky Water. *Yawn helps you usher in Choicers who may not be able to switch in any more due to low health. It also works as a Psuedo~Haze. *Stealth Rock is just general team support.>

Abomasnow w/Adherence Glasses
'Snowstorm' : Weather is changed to *Hail.
<Modest : +Sat / -Att>
* Blizzard
* Energy Ball
* Focus Blast
* HP(Electric) / * Shadowball

<*Blizzard is 100% in *Hail in D/P. It's really the only reason to use this guy. His double STAB is a nasty combo. You won't need to worry about *Sandstorm since *Hail will cancel it out. If a Tyranitar / Hipowdon switches in on you - you should switch out anyway since you are Choiced.>

Claydol w/Leftovers
'Levitate' : Immune to (Ground) attacks.
<Bold : +Def / -Att>
* Earth Power
* Ice Beam
* Rapid Spin
* Stealth Rock / * Reflect

<I prefer *Stealth Rock but Whateva Man. *Rapid Spinners are less valuable InGame but it's your team.>

Honchkrow - I'm clueless.

Giratina - I don't use UBERS.

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If you are replacing Lucario with Heracross than i'd use a Choice set. I like...

Heracross w/Adherence Scarf
'Guts' : Boosts Att x1.5 when inflicted with status effect.
<Adament : +Att / -Sat>
* Close Combat
* Megahorn
* Stone Edge
* Pursuit / * Blade Test

<You could go ChoiceBand too just use <Jolly> nature. I love *Pursuit Competitively but *Blade Test is better InGame since the bad A.I. never switches.>
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Silly rabbit, in game team rates are for nobody. Seriously, everything works ingame.
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Silly rabbit, in game team rates are for nobody. Seriously, everything works ingame.
Silly Rabbit - Stupid posts are for Douchebags who have nothing better to do than SPAM.

J/K - DDBoahTar but don't make pointless posts like this anymore. It's a waste of space.

I mean Very Observant.

The InGame A.I. is terrible.

You are the 1st person ever to point this out.

Feel cool yet?

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With WiFi coming soon people are going to need to take InGame rates more seriously. I'm not going to be playing on Netbattle / Competitor as much as i would with this possible. I have always built my InGame pokes competitively and will continue too.

I just don't understand the logic of doing something wrong just because he A.I. isn't smart enough to punish you for it.

If you were any good at all - you would know the pokes aren't as good as they could be - so shouldn't that be enough?
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For Competitive reasons how about

Porygon Z
download
<Modest>
-agility/substitute
-shadow ball
-psychic
-hyper beam
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Here's a better idea for PorygonZ

PorygonZ @ Leftovers
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Nasty Plot
- Tri Attack
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

Yeah I kind of like that setup a lot better
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For Competitive i like...

Porygon Z w/Choice Specs
'Download' : Raises Att/Sat x1.5 depending on Opponent's Def/Sdf.
<Modest : +Sat / -Att>
* Thunderbolt
* Ice Beam
* Shadow Ball
* HyperBeam

<This guy can melt Blissey with *HyperBeam. He might need 'Adaptive' to 1HKO but this guy is straight up NUCLEAR. If you wanted a second STAB you can replace *Thunderbolt/*Ice Beam with *Tri-Attack but I'd leave *ShadowBall on there because you will be seeing your fair share of (Ghost) types to foil *HyperBeam.>
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For Competitive i like...

Porygon Z w/Choice Specs
'Download' : Raises Att/Sat x1.5 depending on Opponent's Def/Sdf.
<Modest : +Sat / -Att>
* Psychic
* Ice Beam
* Shadow Ball
* HyperBeam

<This guy can melt Blissey with *HyperBeam. He might need 'Adaptive' to 1HKO but this guy is straight up NUCLEAR. If you wanted a second STAB you can replace *Thunderbolt/*Ice Beam with *Tri-Attack but I'd leave *ShadowBall on there because you will be seeing your fair share of (Ghost) types to foil *HyperBeam.>
I agree with HyperBeam, but geez, do you really need Ice Beam and Thunderbolt? They'll both deal with flying, and competitively, you shouldn't be using Z against a water type anyway. Use Psychic to deal with your nasty Fighting type enemies and those Poison types using Toxic.
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I agree with HyperBeam, but geez, do you really need Ice Beam and Thunderbolt? They'll both deal with flying, and competitively, you shouldn't be using Z against a water type anyway. Use Psychic to deal with your nasty Fighting type enemies and those Poison types using Toxic.
Thunderbolt is apparently the only good filler that P-Z can get. Toxic is useless on it. Thunderbolt is there to kill off Water Types, and Ice Beam for killing Dragon Types.

And a Tri Attack, coming from STAB and Adaptability does just as much damage than a SE Psychic attack. =/
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So Porygon Z should flee from (Water) types but stay in against (Fight) types?

It goes Puff~Puff~Pass Man. You've been Bogarding that blunt for way too long. Let us get some of that.

These are the 6 attacks Porygon Z should be using...

*Tri-Attack / *HyperBeam / *Shadow Ball / *Thunderbolt / *Ice Beam / *Nasty Plot

*Nasty Plot is out because you are using Choice Specs so you need to choose between those 5 attacks. *Psychic is not an option because Porygon Z has way too many good attacks to be carrying that.

If you are going to lose *Thunderbolt / *Ice Beam than replace it with *Tri-Attack and change the ability to 'Adaptive'. With just *Hyper Beam i'd stick with 'Download'.

For future general reference save *Psychic for those that get STAB off of it.
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Hyper Beam means that Rhyperior can come in for a clean-shotted Focus Punch. ._.
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Then its settled

Porygon Z
Adaptibility
<modest>
-hyper beam*
-tri-attack*
-shadow ball
-thunderbolt

*-these moves have stab plus adaptability.
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As long as you don't use Hyper Beam so anything can come in and Focus Punch / Close Combat the thing to hell, you're fine.
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Then its settled

Porygon Z
Adaptibility
<modest>
-hyper beam*
-tri-attack*
-shadow ball
-ice beam

*-these moves have stab plus adaptability.
No! Ice is strong against Grass, Ground, Flying, AND Dragon. Electric is only strong against Water and Flying. Ice wins.
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No! Ice is strong against Grass, Ground, Flying, AND Dragon. Electric is only strong against Water and Flying. Ice wins.
And Gyarados is strong against PorygonZ. Gyarados Wins.
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And Gyarados is strong against PorygonZ. Gyarados Wins.
That's what the NE moves are for...
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And Gyarados is strong against PorygonZ. Gyarados Wins.
There will always be a poke to beat a build unless your name is Heracross. If you have a counter to Gyarados on your team then use (Ice). If you are sweating the multitude of things who die to (Ice) use that.

On this team you have Empoleon + Abomasnow so i'd pack myself a *Thunderbolt on Porygon Z.
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So basically, P-Z has now the moveset:
Ice Beam
Tri Attack
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
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So basically, P-Z has now the moveset:
Ice Beam
Tri Attack
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
With Choice Specs, Timid Nature, 4HP/252SPD/252SATK spread.
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For this team i'd use...

Porygon Z w/Choice Specs
'Adaptive' : Additional STAB on moves of his (Type).
<Modest : +Sat / -Att> ~or~ <Timid : +Spd / -Att>
(EV's : HP 4 / Sat 252 / Spd 252)
* Tri~Attack
* Shadow Ball
* Thunderbolt
* HyperBeam

<*Hyper Beam should be saved for special occasions like nuking Blissey or on the turn you will die. (Psuedo~Explosion) I went with *Thunderbolt because you have 2 pokes with (Ice) attacks. *Tri~Attack will be the staple though. *Shadow Ball is for those annoying (Ghost) switch ins.>
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