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Old May 20th, 2007 (10:10 AM). Edited May 20th, 2007 by ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~.
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I need these Pokemon to be rated, I want to beat my friend that has a Zapdos, Gardevior, shiny Palkia, Mawile, Charizard and possibably a Golem. I need to defeat him badly and I want to use these Pokemon, and they all have bad moves and natures, so can some nice and thoughtful come up with some movesets and not be mean about it since I know I suck and I admit it

Shuckle
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Hasty
-Toxic
-Subsitute
-Sludgebomb
-Protect

Umbreon
Item: leftovers
Nature: Rash
-Secret Power
-Toxic
-Protect
-Moonlight

Salamence
Item: Lechi berry
Nature: Jolly
-Crunch
-Fly
-Rock Slide
-Dragon Claw

Moltres
Item: ?
Nature: Modest
-Flamethrower
-Heatwave
- Sky Attack


Articuno
Item: nevermelt Ice
Nature: Adamant
-Sheer Cold
-Ice beam
-Mind reader

Staraptor
Item: ?
Nature: Bold
-Whirlwind
-Close Combat
-Aerial Ace
-Endeavor







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Old May 20th, 2007 (1:30 PM).
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You don't need rating. You need help.
Most of the pokémons have really bad natures. Movesets are even worse in some cases.
And can't really help if you don't say what team you plan to use.
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Old May 20th, 2007 (2:02 PM).
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Please stop using that color, it hurts my eyes. But yes, we need more to work with before we can give any help.
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Old May 20th, 2007 (3:45 PM).
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You don't need rating. You need help.
Most of the pokémons have really bad natures. Movesets are even worse in some cases.
And can't really help if you don't say what team you plan to use.

which is why I said I need serious help how about you help me instead of making stupid comments like that,

I was thinking about using Shuckle, Umbreon, Blastoise, Drifblim Articuno and Salamance. I'll edit my 1st post and cut it down to 7

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Old May 20th, 2007 (9:40 PM). Edited May 20th, 2007 by Ayano Katagiri.
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I was thinking about using Shuckle, Umbreon, Blastoise, Drifblim Articuno and Salamance. I'll edit my 1st post and cut it down to 7
Then umm.. why do you have Moltres and Staraptor in the first post??
Don't use Shuckle though, that sucks.
I assume you aren't gonna have time to breed to change the natures?

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Umbreon
Item: leftovers
Nature: Bold
- Wish
- Mean Look
- Baton Pass

- Toxic

Salamence
Item: Lechi berry
Nature: Adamant
- Dragon Dance
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide / Fire Blast / Hydro Pump


Moltres
Item: ?
Nature: Hasty
- Aerial Ace
- Safeguard
- Toxic

- Flamethrower

Articuno
Item: nevermelt Ice
Nature: Adamant
- Aerial Ace
- Reflect
- Water Pulse/Agility

Ice Beam

Staraptor
Item: ?
Nature: Adamant
-Quick Attack/Brave Bird

-Close Combat
-Aerial Ace
-Endeavor
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thanks I'll maek my POkemon's changes right now thanks for the help unlike other people


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Articuno with Sheer Cold and Mind Reader works well too. But it's cheap and predictable.
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Articuno with Sheer Cold and Mind Reader works well too. But it's cheap and predictable.
Against a human player there's no real point unless you're gonna Mean Look/Baton Pass with it from Umby to Articuno. They usually will know and switch out unlike the AI.
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Wow, I didn't know Mean Look works with Baton Pass like that. I thought it was just stat effects.
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Old May 21st, 2007 (5:53 AM). Edited May 21st, 2007 by Alter Ego.
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Shuckle
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Hasty
-Toxic
-Subsitute Wrap/Sand Tomb/Stealth Rock
-Sludgebomb Knock Off/Encore
-Protect Rest

Worthless nature. xP Anyway, I guess there's some kind of avant-gardistic Power Trick set for this, but it seems like too much bother. Never mind trying to hurt anything with direct attacks, Knock Off/Encore, Toxic, and a trapping move (or Stealth Rock) to make it a general nuisance, Rest to keep it alive.


Umbreon
Item: leftovers
Nature: Rash
-Secret Power Baton Pass
-Toxic Mean Look
-Protect
-Moonlight/Wish

*Sigh* Umbreon got some cool options in D/P but that calls for breeding, which - I gather - you're not into at the moment so this is the best I can do without them. Trap and pass onto something that can sort of handle it. Again, you have a bad nature.


Salamence
Item: Lechi berry Life Orb
Nature: Jolly
-Crunch Earthquake
-Fly Dragon Dance
-Rock Slide Stone Edge
-Dragon Claw

First workable nature in the lot (although Adamant would have been better). Too bad the moveset isn't saying the same. Fly is just...urgh, odds are you've been told about this already but the only HM moves you should ever use on a pokémon are Waterfall and Surf. (The former only because D/P made it physical). Also, Liechi is far inferior to Life Orb.


Moltres
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Nature: Modest
-Flamethrower
-Heatwave Air Slash
- Sky Attack Will-O-Wisp
Substitute/Roost

A second workable nature...oh my. Anyway, don't double up on damaging moves and don't stick physical moves on a special attacker. Moltres actually got a new usable special move, so go with Air Slash. Also, WoW is now TMized so there's another useful option. Roost is pretty much a must if you go with Life Orb.

Articuno
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
-Sheer Cold Roar/Toxic
-Ice beam Avalanche
-Mind reader Reflect
Rest/Roost

*Sigh* For the umpteenth time...Lock On/Mind Reader + OHKO moves is the lousiest excuse for a combo ever (Possibly rivaled by Hypnosis + Dream Eater in utter suckiness); just don't go there. Reflect to bolster its defenses and provide team support, Rest or Roost to keep HP up and a support move to round it off. If it weren't for the abbysmally poor nature I'd have been all for Ice Beam, but in this case you might get more of a fix from Avalanche since Articuno isn't the fastest around. No-one ever got their investment's worth out of a damage type-boosting item, by the way, Leftovers ftw.

Staraptor
Item: Choice Band
Nature: Bold
-Whirlwind U-Turn
-Close Combat
-Aerial Ace Brave Bird
-Endeavor Quick Attack/Double-Edge

Whirlwind? Endavor? Can't you hear the poor thing screaming 'please let me sweep'? You heartless person. That Bold nature is just so wrong, this one and Articuno should switch. .__.
Prediction: this team is going to fail miserably. It just can't take Rock attacks for beans (Two double weaks and three single weaks) and is impaired through natures at almost every turn. If your opponent has any clue about what he's doing he'll just trample you with Golem and Palkia. xP Anyway, lead with Staraptor or Salamence; you might get lucky and score some quick KOs.
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