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Hmm maybe Darkrai was there & use Dark Void on the litte girl?
or maybe i could agree with my theory and change it and make it belong to his deceased grandparents who r in a kanto cemetary and the ghost is the ghost of his mother's dead sister and the grandparents and remaining daughter ran away immediately after realizing darkrai killed one daughter and the butler.
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Really, the most plausible(sp?) theory is the poisoning of the family. I also support the fact that the girl could have died from falling whether it be off a cliff or as I stated, down the stairs. However, there is one thing that puzzles me. That's Rotom and the TM Substitute. How does Rotom tie into the Old Chateau and does the Substitute TM imply that the girl who died was not actually there? Hopefully, we'll get an explanation in some episode, movie or new game.
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Really, the most plausible(sp?) theory is the poisoning of the family. I also support the fact that the girl could have died from falling whether it be off a cliff or as I stated, down the stairs. However, there is one thing that puzzles me. That's Rotom and the TM Substitute. How does Rotom tie into the Old Chateau and does the Substitute TM imply that the girl who died was not actually there? Hopefully, we'll get an explanation in some episode, movie or new game.
like i said the family could have had rotom for a pet and like i said maybe they wanted to teach rotom it but were scared off by darkrai who killed the girl and butler (probably exclaiming why james of team reocket does not mention an aunt)
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I don't really see how James can tie into this as you cannot associate the anime and games most of the time. Plus, the only game James was in (although we wasn't acknowledged as such) was Pokemon Yellow. (And there was a mention of him in XD but not by name) The pieces that rise the most questions are the Antidote in the garbage can, the Old Gateau, and the TM Substitute. Someone must have been poisoned, and the Substitute TM means that the girl who died was a scapegoat for something. I'll come back with a theory later.
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I don't really see how James can tie into this as you cannot associate the anime and games most of the time. Plus, the only game James was in (although we wasn't acknowledged as such) was Pokemon Yellow. (And there was a mention of him in XD but not by name) The pieces that rise the most questions are the Antidote in the garbage can, the Old Gateau, and the TM Substitute. Someone must have been poisoned, and the Substitute TM means that the girl who died was a scapegoat for something. I'll come back with a theory later.
its still my theory and besides james's family is rich right? so how do we know it didnt belong to them at one time? WE DONT.
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A long time ago, in a Galaxy far, far, way....there was an old Chateau. It was Winter time, and the residents were leaving. Thus, Caretakers were hired to look after the hotel, light the boiler, etcetera. They all settled in nicely, dispite being troubled by the mansion's dark past...
Unfortunatly, the head of the family of caretakers disliked the job, and developed many psychlogical illnesses. On a Typrewriter, he left the message...

"All work, and no play makes Jack a dull boy."

He then attempted to murder his family, but failed, somewhat unfortunatly.

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The pieces that rise the most questions are the Antidote in the garbage can, the Old Gateau, and the TM Substitute. Someone must have been poisoned, and the Substitute TM means that the girl who died was a scapegoat for something. I'll come back with a theory later.
Yeah! So you're saying that the girl could have died to save someone? Gardenia/Cheryl, maybe? (I get mixed up which is which)
I still reckon that the girl who died had a twin sister, because of tbe two beds. And I think that the twin sister is Gardenia and she refuses to go in there because it reminds her of her tragic past.

I know i've said this before, but what if the 'Butler' isn't a butler at all, he could just be the father of the family, meaning that Mr.Backlot may not be involved, or that he is the brother to Gardenia (he doesn't seem very old) and that they lived in the house when they were very little and they were twins (they could have used the two beds)
But when whoever killed them, killed them, the girl died to save her brother who fled the house with his mother and time went on, his mother and Mr. Backlot built a new mansion with the inherited money. (I think the mother is Fantina-I'll explain in a sec) and took a statue from the Old Chateau and keeps it in his new home as a reminder of his past...

I think that Fantina is Mr. Backlots mother and built the house with her fortune because:

1) She has a French accent- Chateau is a french name for castle!
2) She uses ghost type pokemon, just like there are in the chateau, and Rotom could have been the family pet!
3) She lives right next to the park that Mr. Backlot built, so he could have built it to cheer her up after the killings


Aaaaand...thats basically it! :D
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I think that Rotom was only like a vido but then like Banette (banette was brought to lifeafter being thrown away) became a real pokemon & thats why we see it in the T.v
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the little girl flys southwards, down, she could have fallen down the stairs, OR maybe the tm substitute is in the room because the little girl used it to distract the bloodthirtsy cook but instead of going for the substitute he went for the real girl, huh huh think about that!, also the rotom could be the girls pet!
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I think Team Galactic, for some reason sends the pokemon they capture to Backlot.
"When I get promoted, I'll demand better stolen Pokémon." – Galactic grunt

"Hey! It's you! I bet you don't remember me but I sure remember you! Because of you they took my Clefairy away. My partner called it quits and went back to his old country." – Galactic grunt

Oh, yes, and the Eterna Galactic building says "hello!". Apparently Team Galactic members don't capture Pokémon, the grunts are received donations/stolen Pokémon by their commander/Cyrus. Obviously the promoted people are going to keep the better Pokémon for themselves. I also don't get why people are randomly tossing Team Galactic in with the whole speculation and saying they trashed the place. There wouldn't be any reason for them to do that.

After all that I really have nothing to add, except that this thread is very interesting and it's great to read the theories people have come up with. I don't think there was a huge elaborate story planned behind the Old Chateau's existence. Perhaps it was made so we could fill in the gaps ourselves.
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it could just be his private area. I mean, do you want random people crawling through your house?
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no one has said anything about the dread plate yet though why do you think its there?

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The Dread Plate is a mere coincidence in my opinion. What I see is that whatever the mystery (if there is one) happens to be, the character finds it out when inside the house and feels sorry for the family. Then out of sheer irony, the Dread Plate sits there. As well as the Insect Plate outside as there are Bug type Pokemon in Eterna Forest.

I have yet to write an actual theory due to the fact that I haven't really gotten to spend much time in there. I plan to spend a whole night in the Old Chateu. Catch a few Ghastlys. (If proper English applies to Pokemon, Ghastlies.)
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Old January 3rd, 2008 (5:57 PM). Edited January 3rd, 2008 by dragonitefanyuiop.
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ive already seen the ghost so i dont need to go there at night so im going there after im done chasing this galactic guy to come up with a story before empolemew muhahhahahahi just saw the little girl she looked like she was looking for something or atleast looked around
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first time i saw that girl and butler, i was a little scared. but as soon as i turned the volume on it really helped the sinister place spook me out... but the painting with the glowing eyes was the worst bit. I reckon mr backlot is hiding something... perhaps those off-limits areas have photos of him in the old chateau. Im too spooked to go on anymore. *runs to another topic*
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My (random) guess is the father killed the little girl and did the same to himself before he was arrested, and the little girl's ghosts attracks the Ghastly, so um (Has horrible nightmare) thats all.
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my theory is that the butler poisoned the girl with the old gateu and put the antidote in the bin to hide it because he was dying of age and he didnt want the girl to run the cheatue the man moved slowly because he was dying of old age and the girl moved quickly to try and find the antidote and rotom was the pet and hid in the tv too sad at all the deaths.

thats the most logical original thing i could come up with
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Tonya and Jason22 both have very ideas. I especially like the idea of Tonya's. Another thing - wtf?! Old Gateau has the same effect as a Full Heal! How can it INDUCE posion?

Jason22, the idea about Fantina is interesting but how do you know she has a French accent? However, that is still a good idea. If she is French then that's a good connection you've made.

By the way, in the anime, the gang didn't even spot a house near the end of Eterna Forest. Totally bizarre.
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Tonya and Jason22 both have very ideas. I especially like the idea of Tonya's. Another thing - wtf?! Old Gateau has the same effect as a Full Heal! How can it INDUCE posion?

Jason22, the idea about Fantina is interesting but how do you know she has a French accent? However, that is still a good idea. If she is French then that's a good connection you've made.

By the way, in the anime, the gang didn't even spot a house near the end of Eterna Forest. Totally bizarre.
Well when you are about to fight her, she comes out with some french words occasionally, it was a long time ago, so I cant remember them exactly...

OH WAIT! I found them on Bulbapedia:

Before Battle:"Ohohoho!! Finally, you have arrived! Since I came to this country, always I try to learn new things. They hold Contests in this city? I say to myself, enfin, I will excel. That's why I dress this way. C'est une performance! Also I study Pokémon very much. I have come to be Gym Leader. And, uh, so it shall be that you challenge me. But I shall win. That's what a Gym Leader does, non?"

Yeah...definitely french :)
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Guys I saw gardenia near the entrance of the old chateau and she said that there are some mysteries there..........................................I think that Gardenia is one of the owner of that old mansion because she is always looking at it and its just like she is remembering her past thats why she visit always and some theory are connected to this maybe the ghost girl is the sister of gardenia and like what others said the sister of gardenia save her and the ghost of the sister is still wondering around because she want justice and the only person who knows what happen is her Sister Gardenia and about the butler the butler need to take care of the ghost girl before he take his rest
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Wow you solved the case!!11!!11!!111!!!

Wait! Im pretty sure thats what people said awhile ago ..
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Yea it was... Jason22 - I forgot but thank you for finding that - I remember now. :D And OMG! I found out something else. Again, using Babel Fish, I translated Gateau this time and found out gateau means cake in French! So in other words, the Old Gateau is really the Old Cake and the Old Chateau is really the Old Castle.
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No problem! But whats so significant about a mouldy cake? =\
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I have no clue but that's part of the mystery. Even though it heals all status problems, wouldn't eating an old cake make you sick? So perhaps it made someone sick and they died (one of the two ghosts) and it's effect refers the opposite of what it ws used for? I don't know if that makes sense but whatever.
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