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Old June 17th, 2007 (9:02 PM). Edited June 18th, 2007 by SomeGuy18.
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Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 80 Def / 124 SAtk / 36 SDef
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Roar
- Surf

Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Charm
- Mean Look
- Wish

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 116 HP / 216 Spd / 176 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 116 HP / 200 Atk / 56 Def / 136 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Sleep Talk

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 220 HP / 56 Def / 16 Spd / 168 SAtk / 48 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Wish

This team has had mixed results in netbattle, so any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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Old June 17th, 2007 (9:05 PM).
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I know this isn't really advice, but you could bring Umbreon's HP EVs to 212. It'll give you 384 Max HP, given the IV is 31, and have the same leftovers recovery I believe. That way you can beefen up it's defense a little bit. Also, you might want a female one with Charm instead of a male one. However, if it works for you fine, then hey.
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Old June 17th, 2007 (9:21 PM).
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Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 85 Def / 85 Spd / 85 SAtk / 85 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

dude, wtf? you even managed to put some evs in SAtk, which you don't need AT ALL. make the nature jolly, max out its Speed, give it some sp def EVs, and put the rest into Atk.
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Sorry forgot to put the correct evs and nature for heracross, fixes are in my first post.
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Old June 18th, 2007 (7:59 AM). Edited June 18th, 2007 by Faceless*.
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Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Charm
- Mean Look
- Wish

An umbreon w/ baton pass that knows no stat raiser moves? what the...
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Old June 18th, 2007 (8:37 AM).
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[QUOTE=Nameless111;2535483][QUOTE=SomeGuy18;2534536]Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Charm
- Mean Look
- Wish
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An umbreon w/ baton pass that knows no stat raiser moves? what the...
Most umbreons DONT have stat raising moves to begin with. Toxic imo is a better move to use than charm. Too bad umbreons attacking options are all pretty bad :(
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Umbreon's purpose is passing mean looked, charmed opponents to my sweepers. He also serves as a wall and a wish passer. Toxic is something I considered, but found charm to be more useful.
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actually, you can just switch pokemon to pass the wish affects, and mean look always stays even if you swap, so baton pass is pointless. i say GET ANOTHER MOVE :P
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actually, you can just switch pokemon to pass the wish affects, and mean look always stays even if you swap, so baton pass is pointless. i say GET ANOTHER MOVE :P
WRONG. mean look must be passed.

and charm is a good combination with mean look. good for those silly choice band garchomp.
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I think you should put U-turn in Jirachi for some more Wish Passing. Also, why two almost identical Choice Banders?



EDIT: Why not Zen Headbutt on Jirachi? 40% chances of flinching is nice.
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Old June 18th, 2007 (11:10 AM).
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Ummm first of all this is a netbattle team so there is no zen headbutt to put on jirachi, secondly even if there was, putting it on Jirachi would defeat the purpose of him which is wish passing and satk.

Explain to me how Dugtrio with aerial axe, hp bug, earthquake and rock slide is identical to heracross with brick break, earthquake, megahorn and rock slide when heracross is playing the role of a physical sweeper and dugtrio is simply there to arena trap and finish off things.

Yes wish doesn't need to be passed, and yes mean look does have to be, but even if it didn't have to be baton pass is still useful in that it allows umbreon to take a hit and switch to someone else in the process. Umbreon is a wall and the more hits I have him taking, instead of others, the better

Anyways, I replaced suicune with a swampert and moved him to the lead off spot, here are the evs and things.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 80 Def / 124 SAtk / 36 SDef
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Roar
- Surf

Ice beam is there to cover mence leads, I also switched hp ice to hp grass on raikou.

So once again any thoughts and suggestions are appreciated, but please attempt to keep them to pointing out the teams weaknesses and how to correct them.
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Ughh over 100 views and not one piece of truely helpful criticism, bump for some help...
 

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