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Old July 14th, 2007 (8:48 PM).
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Problem with Magnezone these days is most Skarmory users are smart enough to equip Shed Shell so it can easily withdraw for it's mate Blissey. Hmm this will take awhile to figure out.

Sorry Vainz if it looked like I was attacking you. At the moment I dont have much time on PC so I have to post and pour out my entire thoughts on the subject at the spot.
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Old July 14th, 2007 (8:51 PM).
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Its fine Punishment, and i understand completely. Yes i think it will be a long time before we have a team that everyone agrees on, and that meets all of our needs. How about we use Electivire? I think it would do fine against a Skarmory. Any powerful Special Fire or Electric type attack will hurt it bad, if not kill it. I am still fine with using Claydol though.
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Old July 14th, 2007 (8:53 PM).
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Electrive I admit is a Pokemon I fear solely for its strength and its ability that renders electrical attacks useless. I dont know how many times my opponent has suprised me by switching in Electrive ot my Blisseys Thunder Wave (which is usually standard on her). That extra speed boost allowed Electrive to sweep my team.

So yes I think Electrive is a worthy candidate to consider. ^_^
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Old July 14th, 2007 (9:00 PM).
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I hope you guys actually decide to use electivire(since he's my favorite).It's a vote from me. Why would you use 2 physical sweepers on one team, although electivire somewhat doubles as a wall.
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Old July 14th, 2007 (9:03 PM).
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I'm all for using Electivire. If theres something that kills Slarmbliss, I wouldn't say no to it.
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Old July 14th, 2007 (9:15 PM).
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Some of the pokemon that it can counter are:
salamence
garchomp
infernape
magnezone
metagross
blissey
skarmory
porygon-z
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Old July 14th, 2007 (9:24 PM).
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Electrive is a worthy candidate so yes if we can stick him in the team somewhere then lets go for it.
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Old July 14th, 2007 (9:34 PM).
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So are we getting rid of claydol or just replacing something else from the team?
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Old July 15th, 2007 (1:50 AM).
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Magmortar eats Skarmbliss too. Steels are common so a STAB Fire helps.
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Old July 15th, 2007 (6:21 AM).
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Well, we are replacing him for Gallade. Claydol,s not bad.
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Old July 15th, 2007 (6:54 AM).
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I would get rid of gallade because I don't think we need two physical sweepers.
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Old July 15th, 2007 (8:45 AM).
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Well, majority rules, and right now, I'm seeing a "shocking" turnaround for Electivire.

I guess Electivire rules, but... thats IMO
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Old July 15th, 2007 (9:42 AM).
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Well for a Attack based based team.

Weavile (Speed)
Arcanine (Attack, sp.Attack)
Swampert (attack)
Lucario (Attack, Sp.Attack)(i find his move pool quite useful)
Dusknoir(Defense with decent Attack)
Salamence Attack, Sp. Attack)
I know you dude, thats YOUR current team...
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Old July 15th, 2007 (10:09 AM).
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I agree. We will remove Gallade, and put in Electrive. Chatot Pirate, im not sure what the point of that last post was, but next time, try to stay on topic. We will accept any critizism, but...that wasnt relevant in any way.

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Old July 15th, 2007 (11:33 AM).
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It sounds like a winning team to me.
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Old July 15th, 2007 (12:30 PM).
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Dusknoir
Milotic
Claydol
Metagross
Togekiss
Electivire
Awesome, so you switched Electivire for gallade, good, you have claydol in their, why is that?

And where is a Sp. Atk sweeper? (I mean, a pure sweeper, aka gengar, alakazam, or porygon-Z or starmie...etc)
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Hmmm, your right. We can try to fit that in there. Claydol is for Rapid Spin and probably Stealth Rock.
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Old July 15th, 2007 (1:51 PM).
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I think togekiss could be a special sweeper even though he is a paraflincher but his sp. attack isn't high enough. We have physical and special walls though so I don't see why we need a special sweeper since we also have two physical sweepers(metagross and electivire).
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Old July 15th, 2007 (2:26 PM).
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As soon as we have the picture for the Ultima Fan Club, then we can put it in our signature. If needed, Togekiss and Milotic could be Special Sweepers. We have stated the purpose of Claydol in previous posts, so just look there.

Guys, come on. At least post a little in our Fan Club Thread. So far only me and ooka 100 have been taking part, and we need way more than that.
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Old July 15th, 2007 (3:44 PM).
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Old July 16th, 2007 (3:11 AM).
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Ok, if no one has anymore pokemon choices, then lets work on movesets. I know a lot of people know certain things about some pokemon, and nothing about others, so just post what you know. It would be helpful if you only posted Dusknoir and Milotic movesets for the sake of organization.
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Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Nature: Adamant/Impish/Careful
EV: 252 HP / 58 Att / 100 Def / 100 SpDef
Trait: Pressure
Focus Punch
Pain Split/Earthquake
Shadow Punch/Will-O-Wisp
Thunderpunch/Ice Punch

Packs a punch on many fronts (pun definitely intended).

Milotic @ Leftovers
Nature: Modest/Calm
EV: 52 HP / 212 Def / 92 SpAtt / 154 SpDef
Trait: Marvel Scale
Surf
Ice Beam
Recover
Psych Up/Hypnosis

Pretty standard. Psych Up adds interesting potential.
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Old July 16th, 2007 (5:01 AM).
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Umm...yeah, these days Milotic pretty much needs maximized defense and Marvel Scale exploit just to wall all the Life Orb sweepers around, so that would be something like:

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Trait: Marvel Scale
Surf
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Stalkertic ftw. Possibly shift some of HP to SAtk, dunno'. Psych Up isn't that cool now that all out sweeping is all the rage (thanks to the new damage boost items <.<).
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Old July 16th, 2007 (5:04 AM).
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Here is what i suggest for a Dusknoir

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EV's 252 HP, 156 Def, 100 Attack
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